How to stay awake during night feeds part 6 - all welcome to join us!

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Hi everyone, cannot believe we have exchanged over 5000 messages!

mrsn when we shared our locations on here a while back, heff, goat and I all turned out to live near Uxbridge so we met up having met on here. It is lovely, if you are ever down south let us know!

macaroons sounds like we are in the same boat I officially return to work on 15 Feb but that is actually the Friday before half term so only have that day and then another week off before full time return hits. I am lucky that DH is being a SAHD til 1st July so no drop offs, pick ups or worries about the childminder ringing me because babyfunch is ill etc, and she is in great hands with him, much as I have been critical of him til we talked it over recently. However I am worried about being at work on no sleep - I will get in a lot of trouble if I lose my rag with a pupil or indeed a member of my team (one of whom is a pain). I will have to perfect the art of letting some things go (eg uniform issues in the corridor as opposed to in my lessons - I spend a lot of time arguing with pupils about these and intend to stop save for the very worst!) and dealing with others by just reporting bad behaviour to heads of year rather than dealing with it myself. I am head of faculty so will focus just on what happens in lessons in my faculty rather than working quite so hard on having the best corridor behaviour in the school in my area - it is great having that but takes a lot of time, energy and conflict so it will just have to go n the back burner until I am getting proper sleep again. At this rate dd will be in year 7 by then herself and can help me!

Ok that's failure three I give in. Should I persevere more with these transfers? How many does everyone do before you take them into bed?

First feed here after he went down at 10:45. The nights of sleeping through never last do they?!

brain that sounds delicious!! I'm doing Weight Watchers at the minute so none for me but I know a few girls on here who would love a slice

Brain that sounds so good.
Baby larle on second feed, think the only reason he is sleeping so long is because he won't nap in the day making him really cranky.
I normally try to transfer 2 or 3 times before giving up, depends on time of night

brain that choc crispie would hit the spot right now!

mrsn sorry to hear the amazing sleep hasn't continued but at least you know he can do it now

babyfunch slept beautifully through the beer tasting and though she woke up when we got home she dropped off ok in her crib after some milk. I think a lot if people were when we wheeled the carrycot in but she just fed then slept, not a peep out of her. I suspect a few ladies there were nudging their fellas and saying 'Look, having a baby isn't the end of social life, see how that baby sleeps so well!'. Oh the irony of being impressed by babyfunch's sleep....

Third feed here, first two were bottles of ebm due to beer consumption but back to bf now it is hopefully out of my system.

I am sure the problem keeping babyfunch awake is constipation/straining, yet when the poo arrives it is soft...is that possible?? And she does all this painful straining in the early hours but her nappy isn't actually dirty til about 7am. I don't get it.

She has just dropped off so about to attempt transfer...small I generally give it three goes but I feed after each attempt, else she stays wide awake, so three would take about an hour. I normally get to 5am and hand her over to DH to take downstairs rather than have her in our bed as she will only settle if I provide unlimited boob access by lying on my side but I can't at the moment as my hips hurt when I do that

Feeling totally desperate tonight. Took til 1am to finally get her to sleep, DD1 had a bad dream so woke me up at 2 and came into our bed, then baby woke up at 4 and hasn't yet gone back to sleep. Finally got too frustrated to stay upstairs so came down hoping to rock her back to sleep in the buggy and kip on sofa and found my sister fast asleep snoring her bloody head off on the sofa already. Trying not to kick her really hard wake her but oh my gosh I can't take much more sodding snoring between that and babylump yelling refusing to stay asleep they're driving me nuts I'm going to crack soon and get carted off to the loony bin :( :(

small it completely depends on how tired I am. For some reason there just isn't room for babybrain in our bed (standard double) so bringing him in is a desperate measure as one of us me probably won't sleep as a result, but I at least get to lie down.

heff that's no fun at all! I'd kick DSis off the sofa and tell her you need it. She's already had a good night's sleep by our standards! Hope you finally get some rest.

So I don't give in too soon then seems three is standard! I actually tried one more after my post and it worked so he stayed there until 4.30 when he started making peculiar noises in his sleep I think I could have left him and he would have been fine but I had SIDS paranoia and bought him in. He's up now with DH.
heff I agree with brain give your sister a big kick and get yourself to sleep on the sofa. Perhaps she could do some rocking for you whilst you go back to sleep?!
I'm on a diet too otherwise would love some chocolate although my diet does include finishing off the ginger cake and Florentines that are in the biscuit tin!!

Second feed here, I would like a bit more sleep so hopefully it's not up time.

heff oh no you poor thing, I hope you are now sleeping soundly!

funch I'm glad you had a great time, and that baby funch was well behaved for you

Fourth feed here and she's gone back to sleep, might see if I can get some extra zzz in as my mum is already up and will sort out dd1 if she wakes :)

Well it was up time for us but hubby took him at 9 and I got another couple of hours

Right, warning: I am on a proper laptop so can type as much as I like...could be a long boring post!

heff I really hope you have been able to get some sleep today after such a horrible night. Did you get your sister woken and helping in the end? Snoring just adds insult to injury when you are awake in the small hours doesn't it? bastard sleeping people

mrsn glad you got a lie in, it makes all he difference doesn't it? DH gave me a lovely looong lie in til 11 today, so I could be on form for the PIL visit. FIL managed to delay his reference to my weight til after lunch when I was standing resting backwards against a wall but with my tummy sticking out as I had my arms behind me....he pointed at my belly, didn't even say anything, just gave me and DH a meaningful look!! I then gave DH a VERY meaningful look as he had tried defending his dad and saying that I was imagining that he commented on my weight every time we saw him...DH has since they left given in and admitted it is a bit out of order but we both agree he means it as showing I am really part of the family like DH's sister. Strange that this appears to mean I get the honour of being subjected to this kind of banter abuse but then I do take the piss out of his slightly outdated Daily Mail reader attitudes! (he actually reads the Telegraph now I think about it but you know what I mean!) DMIL stepped in and told the room that I was not to think about losing weight while breastfeeding, bless her.

Anyway they are here til March so I will be seeing them at least fortnightly for a while, so cue more little stories from the world of my PIL. Living in the Outer Hebrides does mean they have been rather deskilled socially as they don't see many people!

Babyfunch was lovely for them and was declared a "poppet". DFIL has now decided he is world's best grandad because she didn't cry when he was holding her but did cry when DMIL held her...duh...that is only because she was hungry by then. But this is an improvement on when he first met her at about a week old when he was too scared to hold her at all! He told me today that when DMIL was in hospital having my SIL, and he was in charge of 2 yo DH for two days, he had never changed a nappy and had to take him to a friend's house to get him changed and bathed!!! I hope things like that don't happen any more but I suspect I am being naive.

Another dodgy night last night, up from 3.30-5 with babyfunch asleep on me...I have stopped expecting anything else. Off to doctor again to see if we can get some different reflux meds so that she can come off the Gaviscon as it really bungs her up, poor thing!

Ooh long post funch like it! We have pils here today too, they adore baby small and means I get a bit of a break. DH did a slow roasted lamb shoulder which was delicious and I am still full so will only require toast for tea . I'm sure your fil is well meaning with his comments and its lovely to be thought of as part of the family.
My dad has offered to take us on holiday this year which is sort of like a double edged sword as we will go somewhere fabulously luxurious and unaffordable but will be subjected by my family's mentalness!! At least we can use baby small as an excuse for some alone time!

funch I know what you mean about the gaviscon, we had a very unhappy bunged up baby earlier in the week. The gp gave us a prescription for ranitidine but needs to be ordered so we've not tried it yet. I've stopped the gaviscon though as constipated baby was worse than reflux baby. The hv suggested giving 4-6oz water a day (LO is ebf) which may have helped although so might the antibiotics I'm on

Hi all - I've been lurking since the 3rd or 4th thread but thought I'd de-lurk to tell you that you've saved my sanity over the last couple of months.
My DS is 17 weeks and up until Christmas was slowly increasing the number of hours he slept during the night. Unfortunately we hit the regression big time Xmas eve where he started waking every 1 - 2 hours, which was worse than when he was a newborn! We're at every 2-3 hours now which feels like luxury in comparison and last night my DH did the night feeds via EBM so for the first time since before DS was born I got 7 hours of sleep. In. A. Row.
So hello all. I have nectarines if anyone needs snacks as I understand food is very important on this thread

Evening! Despite 2 lie ins this weekend I am beyond shattered tonight. It's hard work plastering a smile on your face when you feel like poo

I have a question - it is SIL's hen weekend in 2 weeks, I am not going and so would like to get her a present that MIL will give her while they are away. Any ideas?? I'm stumped!

Welcome chilli! Nice to have you on board and thanks for the Nectarines, they are 0 points on WW

Welcome chili, good to hear our rumblings have helped
I am currently replacing my night feed snacks with fruit so nectarines are very welcome. Gone are the days of iced mince pies!!

Mrsn: thinking re SIL present. What is she into? Do you know her well and get on?

DH put babyfunch down tonight to see if she would self-settle (trying to move away from feeding to sleep so we did feed, bath, new nappy, bed in that order instead of bath, nappy, feed to sleep, transfer to crib.). She cried when he left so I said I would give it five mins then go up as she sounded quite distressed but after about three mins she was sparko! Now am I being cruel and effectively doing controlled crying when she is too young or is that what everyone does? If she had cried after I had gone up I would have stayed and fed her, not gone away for longer, so I guess not really cc but I am not sure whether I am being too mean to a 14 week old who I love very much! Any opinions welcome

hello chilli! If it is any consolation, my LO had the sleep regression at 17 weeks adjusted (he is prem) and is now back to fairly good sleep patterns. I just wish he wouldn't start his 11/12 hours at 5 pm. this is a new development since moving into the cot.
We started weaning today. So far he is not impressed! But he is driving me nuts trying to be "helpful" with the bottle. Usually resulting in sprays of milk everywhere.
funch I honestly think 5 mins of crying is not a problem. My MIL says that DH used to cry for five mins every time she put him down to sleep, it was just what he did - and I can promise you he is normal human being (or just pleasantly bonkers) now!
mrsn I had some of the same questions as funch - what does your SIL like? What sort of price range would you be looking at? Btw, well done on the extra sleep!
heff what a horrible night. Quiet asphyxiation of snorers is a community service...
Now does everyone realise that thread food is calorie-free? Please, dig in! It will make you light as air! I have some chocolate marshmallow biscuits to offer...

Dark chocolate digestives here as well as the last couple of mince pies.
Had a hell of a day today, at one point had 3 of my cousins and my dad in the kitchen while we were in the living room with the midwife! Baby larle is nearly back to birth weight so very happy about that!
He has also managed some naps today so interested to see if that affects his sleep tonight.
Need to start getting him into a routine but is 17 days old too young to worry about that just yet?
Hubby goes back to work tomorrow, dreading it especially considering its been snowing for over 8 hours now so no chance of us getting out tomorrow!

We get on well but I wouldn't say we are close. Hmmmm what is she into?? She loves Cath Kidston stuff, has lots of girl friends, plays squash, has a little girl who is nearly one. For her hen weekend they are going to Edinburgh, having spa treatments and then going on a boogy bus where the theme will be trashy TOWIE! I don't know whether to get her something funny or something she could keep. I probably haven't helped much!!

Mrsn well Cath Kidston would be a safe bet for something nice to use/keep and they cover a range of price options. I am crap at stuff like this (gave DH a full weaning kit for Xmas since he didn't want anything, but will be weaning her when he is on paternity leave, so I thought it was a genius gift! Pretty much my entire family have now 'had a word' with me about not taking him for granted!! Bless him, he is going to have to start telling me things he wants!). But hey, I am trying for you. Maybe something nice from The White Company (classy etc, or is that just me?) or a nice sports top for squash?

Oh God just wait for what others say, I am not being much use!

A off to bed now to try and get a stretch in before the inevitable 2am waking-for3-hours routine . Have been trying to up my bm supply with fennel tea and either it has been better for some other reason, or the tea has actually worked - I have frozen 8oz today as well as doing most feeds via bf as well. So expressing first, then bed.

See you all between 2 and 5 most likely!

Not at all funch you have been very helpful! Thank you I was thinking Cath Kidston myself, I thought maybe a little purse with a mirror and a key ring, and some money so she can buy some drinks, all inside? It's not very hen partyish but she will be able to use it while she is away and then when she is home.

Little man is sleeping in his cot now so I'm just going to have a little read and then go to sleep myself.

Evening all

Welcome Chilli. I love nectarines - thank you very much

Heff sounds like a gritty night for you. Hope you managed some rest today and gave a better night tonight.

Funch, like Goat's MiL and DH, my own mother reckons I cried for a few minutes before I fell asleep every time too. A couple

Evening all, first feed of the night which is a bit early for my liking!

Thank you for the nectarines chilli, I really want one now after enormous roast beef dinner-we are staying at mum and dads-it's cold brrrr.

mrsn I agree re cath kidson as way to go for a present.

funch definitely not cruel-i think there is a big difference between a cry that's a grizzly cry (don't mean baby sounds like a bear) and hysterical screaming because they are really distressed-and if 3 minutes was all it took for sleep to arrive then it sounds fine. I might need to start trying shush pat or whatever it's called for some of these night time feeds - I'm haunted by a colleague whose child is nearly 2.5 - as in years - who still wakes every two hours for bf-I'd have been carted off to the sleep asylum by then.

Hope you got some rest today heff

Sorry not to name check everyone, my prediction is going to be next wake up between 1 and 2 so see some of you then.

Oh and does anyone have snow?

Evening all

Welcome Chilli. I love nectarines - thank you very much

Heff sounds like a gritty night for you. Hope you managed some rest today and gave a better night tonight.

Funch, like Goat's MiL and DH, my own mother reckons I cried for a few minutes before I fell asleep every time too. A couple of minutes bleating isn't really controlled crying.

My back is giving me real trouble at the minute. I just can't get comfortable with it at all. I never had problems before, but it has ached in and off since about 32 weeks with Missmarbles, being considerably worse from when she was about 4 weeks

Missmarbles has been down since 7.30 and (somewhat unusually), woke for a feed at 9.30, and I can hear her twisting a bit. I hope this doesn't mean we're in for a rough night as I am really tired after the recent poorly shenanigans, which we thankfully seem to be done with.

I've fallen off the diet wagon today too Hope that I have still got a net loss when I get on the scales in the morning.

Sleep well everyone