When did you accept defeat?

[metalelephant]

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How are you dribbleface?

metalelephant honestly....on the verge of giving up. he's screams at 90% of feed's and it's a real struggle to get him to feed. it's meant to be a nice bonding experience but I'm dreading each feed. DH Although supportive Think's it's time i gave in. will see how today goes but not feeling very positive today.

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time dribble, take it one day at a time and do whatever feels rights for you and your family. Do you find time to go out at all? I was far more depressed when staying in all the time, a little walk with my dd in a sling (that keeps her asleep far more effectively than the buggy) does me a lot of good.

Courage and good luck x

hi. apologies for miserable post earlier. today I've not looked at any clocks to see how long between feed's or how long each feed was, just been watching baby and feeding when i think. i think it's me stressing that's making him scream . so your right each day as it comes. i do get out most days, dropped my 3year old at nanny's yesterday and went for a power walk with the buggy, felt so much better after! apologies again, came on originally to give you support and I've become all self indulgent! how are you doing?

glad that it's been a better day dribbleface!

Please don't worry about sounding down, that's why we come here isn't it, to express our worry and share our happy moments and support each other!

Its helpful to know that everybody goes through hard patches, otherwise you feel alone and like your problems are unusual; so thank you for sharing your ups and downs with me!

I had a nice day thank you... No topups today, which is exciting but also scary, as she's a healthy weight at the moment u thought we could afford to drop the formula and see how it goes. If she gets too upset I will give her a bottle, but I think unless she feeds in demand, my supply will never catch up.

I'll get her weighed again on Monday, so will know if we need topups again.

The only worry is that she's still not opening her mouth wide, I can hear her drinking though, and her jaw is moving nicely, so hope things are almost there.

So, it's much better, but I need to remind myself it's all work in progress!

On demand not in demand! Blimey, my typing is rubbish!

metalelephant - i hope you've had another good day? we've had a fantastic day, fed beautifully all day, good substantial feeds with no crying from either of us! i think your right, courage is needed, to overcome the blip's if at all possible. one day at a time, but feeling much better!

Hi metal elephant. Oh my giddy ant.....what you are going through is an exact reflection of what I too am going through with my second dd.......only, with my dd, she was admitted into paed ward 2 days ago and had lost 17% birth weight despite being constantly on the breast for 6 days day and night. Neither of us slept at all. All i did day 5 and 6 was cry and cry in front of dd1 who then began to resent the new baby and see the new addirion as a source of sadness! Family and friends also think I have been ridiculously stubborn with the bf especially since she was admitted into hospital. Her blood glucose levels were so low that she was put at serious risk of cerebral palsy! You can only imagine my own distress to think i was trying to give her the best start possible but actually put her at risk! :-(...her latch is ok but she does not suck very strongly so perhaps thats why the milk has not come in. If i express i only get about a teaspoon in an hour and that is thick and yellowy compared to the paler milk of other mothers who are at the same stage. I have been taking domperidone for 2 days and my breasts feel flatter and emptier by the day despite being a substantial DD! :-)...... i am topping up with formula at every feed. I was giving a cup but because she was so poorly it is now bottles........i think sadly, there comes a time when you have to say, for your own sanity and for the babys welfare and the family, that enough is enough

I know you said you saw the bottle as a barrier but you can still perhaps let baby suckle on the breast before each feed. You can hold baby close with good eye contact while you give the bottle and you can still have lots of skin to skin contact to increase the bond........i want to bf as much as you do and i know all the feelings that you are feeling but i also know that whenever i admit defeat, i will always wonder what if i had tried this and that and what if i had tried to express more blah blah blah.........there is no answer really.....it is a very sad situation. For me, I have decided to stop this path of misery having put my baby at serious risk and change my path to a happier one.......not the path i chose but the path that chose us. Good luck metal with whatever you decide. At least we have our little darlings to love nurture and cherish no matter what happens!!!! big huge hugs xxx

allsaintsbaby what a hard time you went through!... There's nothing like seeing your baby losing weight, it sounds to me like you tried super hard but sometimes we need to take a different path to the one we envisaged - like you described yourself.
Thank you very much for the encouragement, and best of luck to you and your little one, may you soon see chubby little legs and dimply thighs!

dribbleface that's brilliant news that you had a great day!! We had a reasonable day as well, though I still think my milk isn't what it should be but lo seems happy enough to suckle for ages and I will go back to giving her a bottle of formula per night.

The big day is tomorrow, when I will get her weighed again, quite scared that she hasn't put on weight since last monday...I
guess we'll see. Must remind myself to take it one day at a time

Here's to a good week for all of us!

metalelephant good luck today, fingers crossed. Well we had another great day i think we might be getting the hang of it! now just to master feeding without my breastfriend pillow so i can fed out and about.

Thanks dribbleface, she has put on weight! Yay! Considering sea been Gavin one formula bottle or none per day, we seem to be doing well. Evenings are a struggle though, still don't have faith in my breasts (I can see a western and country song there) but the weighing gave me courage to go on.

Now I'm off to celebrate with chocolate.

Hope this is a great day again dribbleface!

allsaintsbaby a lovely day to you too!

Sea been Gavin = she's even having

How do you turn off your iphone's imagination a notch?

No! No! She's been having

Been been been been

Just popped in to say well done to you both metalelephant and dribbleface.

Great news on the weight gain metal and for sticking with it. Sounds like you're both doing really well and have been a good support for each other through some tricky times.

Thank you crikeybadger, you're right, dribbleface has been very supportive - and it's nice to hear from you again - you were very kind to me in my old sad thread.

have been lurking....

Its so good to see that things have taken a turn for the better. Congrats everyone!

Thank you entropygirl!

metalelephant that's great news. quick post as he's gone off and I'm going to sleep before he wants another feed, but a mixed day but all in all ok.

how is it going dribbleface? Its ok here, baby attached to my breast most of the day, which is lovely but makes opening the front door a bit of a challenge!

So envious of the overproducing milk posters on other threads, I think I'm still making less than she needs, 5 hours on the breast last evening and still wouldn't settle - come on breasts, catch up!

have a lovely sunny day x

I'm sure you'll catch up soon, but it's great that she's latched on well. Have you tried switch nursing to boost supply now she's on well? We are ok, feed's are hit and miss but he's a happy settled baby and if i take my eye's of the bloody charts for a minute i can see a healthy little monster smiling back at me!

Ah that smile must be the best ever! Very happy for you, sounds like you're both doing great!

I'm slowly getting more confident with breastfeeding, planning to go to a parent and baby cinema screening this week -when going out at all seemed impossible
two weeks ago.

Metalelephant - thats real progress! Hope you enjoy your film.

metalelephant how's things going now? still on the up i hope? things getting much easier here, today has been like things have just clicked and he's enjoyed feeding, as have i. probably go wrong tomorrow but we're having more good feed's than bad. having him weighed tomorrow, really nervous, how silly is that!

Lovely to hear your news dribbleface. Sounds to me like you're doing very well...you're right that we must expect ups and downs but there is that turning point where as you say things click into place and your confidence in what you and the baby are doing starts going up!

Our late evenings are still a bit tricky, she feeds often and gets upset, possibly because there's not as much milk as she'd like but also possibly because she's a little overtired and colicky... The important thing is that I'm not panicking anymore. We're having her 6 week check the day after tomorrow (over a week late, she'll be 7+6) so her weight will be checked - but I think she looks healthy and has a cute little double chin so I'm hopeful.

Sending you good weight vibes! Let us know how it goes, good luck!