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Infant feeding

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Is there a breastfeeding while pregnant thread already?

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MummyBerryJuice · 05/04/2011 15:08

If not would anyone like to join me?

Experienced and first time feeding while pregnant mums welcome. I'm almost 11 weeks with DC2 and am still feeding DS (15 months). We are currently working at night weaning him (although he is incredibly persistent) and he still feeds 3/4/5 time per day, although he is starting to eat more solids.

I don't know anyone in RL who has fed whilst pregnant or tandemed and it would be great to be able to share frustrations etc with others.

So please come and join me, or point me in the direction of the right thread

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MummyBerryJuice · 11/05/2011 14:56

She's firmly in the camp of not believing in any of 'that psychological clap-trap'.

Oi.

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PenguinArmy · 11/05/2011 21:58

I'm 17 weeks now as well, also DD has been having a lot of nappies (not too runny but very voluminous and more frequently than normal). Been about a week now so was wondering if there are milk changes that are happening.

DD wakes up ravenous in the morning. I can tell she's waking too early for her, but wolfs down her porridge.

We were down to two wake-ups a night, both feeds but it has gone back to 2 hourly (feeding 2 or 3 times).

The pain seems a little better now, but feel supply is at it's lowest yet.

PenguinArmy · 11/05/2011 22:00

regarding your (and mine) MIL. I just tell mine that she sleeps exactly how I did and I was FF. Also does she have sleep issues, I know mine can't stay asleep past a certain time so I'm going to mention it next time she brings it up Grin. Maybe she needs some training to get out of her habbits.

DitaVonCheese · 11/05/2011 23:39

Bit late, but can I join? :) 30 weeks pg with DS and still nursing 2.5 yo DD - wish I'd found this thread earlier on in pregnancy!

Has been very uncomfortable with sore nipples a lot of the time but I've used the opportunity to practice my labour breathing! It comes and goes - I had a few weeks when it was agony and some when the pain was gone completely - but one side has been consistently better than the other, oddly.

Had to nightwean to get pg but feel for all of you who are still doing night feeds.

I'm not sure whether my supply ever dried up - DD says not (I keep questioning her like a slight mentalist Blush). She did start gulping water during feeds a while back, which all made sense when I got hold of AIN and read about the milk getting saltier :) I don't hear her swallowing any more - haven't for ages - but there is definitely milk there when I give an experimental squeeze (Blush); it is still clear/white though - last time round my colostrum kicked in at 28 weeks and was bright yellow so not sure whether this is colostrum or milk yet (is it likely to be the same second time round?). DD's nappies still seem fine (thank goodness - my commitment to cloth is wavering at the moment anyway!).

Nice to see so many doctors on here :) - I'm the daughter of one if that counts ... Both my HV and MW know that I'm pg and bf at the moment and I got the impression that they were faintly disapproving/thought I should probably stop but nothing overt so possibly just me being paranoid. My parents (including GP dad) are far less supportive and grandmothers intrigued ...

Better go to bed, I'm rambling Blush

PenguinArmy · 12/05/2011 02:56

rolls out welcome mat for Dita

I was hoping you would come along and tell us all that it had been a breeze since 20 odd weeks.

Our cloth nappies have def. been having issues regarding containment lately Grin

GapsAGoodUn · 12/05/2011 03:47

Just a quick wave to all of you - I tandem fed my lovely dc who are 22 months apart in age.

Mostly fed them at the same time once ds was out of the newborn phase, and once he was about 6 months they had 'a breast each' decided by my dd!

Now they are 7 and 5 and I am so grateful that I ignored my mum and mil. My hv had never met an extended bf baby, let alone a tandem. A lovely memory is when my dd came into the hospital to meet her baby brother and she held his hand while they fed.

Mind you, later on there was a fair amount of pushing and shoving too!

good luck everyone. The terrible skin crawling phase does pass.

MummyBerryJuice · 12/05/2011 09:17

Thanks for the encouraging words Gaps and welcome Dita.

DS's nappies are definitely more voluminous but not runny. There is quite a lot of undigested material in them, but then he does like to eat his muesli in the morning Grin. He is also asking for water in the early hours of the morning, the milk doesn't seem to quench his thirst anymore, although he does still want to feed after having gulped down some water from my glass.

I think I may start to take a cup up with me for him in the evenings when going to bed.

I'm feeling very emotional today Sad. It's probably a combination of exhaustion, hormones and the incident with MIL yesterday. I was really just so unprepared for it and it caught me on the back foot.

The more I think about it the angrier I am about it, really, as I have never asked her advice regarding his sleep. So it was entirely unsolicited. I have also been really open and honest with her as I have want her to feel included but I should have known that she'd use it as a stick to beat me with (as that it the type of person she is). It really upsets me because when I do have him stay with her for the morning or afternoon (so I'm not that possessive) she doesn't stop going on about how she's always looking after him and how she can't get anything done and how I'll be leaving him to be looked after by her when the next one comes and... Sad

And I don't tell her where I think she went wrong with her kids and why I think BIL has the strange emotional interactions he has with her (and others) and how I think that the way she treats FIL is inexcusable.

Arrrgh!!

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Poppet45 · 12/05/2011 16:05

MILs are like a precious, precious gift aren't they Grin. Mine surpassed herself when we announced I was epecting again - she said morning sickness eplained why the catering had been so bad when she last came to stay, and she noted I'd been more moody too 'although it had been hard to tell'. Let's not even go into her wisdom on sleeping issues.

PenguinArmy · 12/05/2011 16:09

Mine bluntly asked us how were we going to cope Hmm

MummyBerryJuice · 12/05/2011 16:42

Arf! Yes, VERY precious Grin. Mine, on the announcement of the second pregnancy said: 'Poor, poor DS1' and carried on about how unfair we were being to him for about 2 weeks! When I received my Indefinite Leave to Remain a few weeks ago (I'm a Saffa) she say dejectedly, 'So we're not gonna be able to get rid of you then?' But with a smile on her face, of course.

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PenguinArmy · 12/05/2011 17:04

you have to love them Grin (well try anyway)

how are other people finding the pain. Have to admit I'm considering weaning, but that's probably more due to the fact I'm tired.

PenguinArmy · 15/05/2011 18:24

will be back later

MummyBerryJuice · 15/05/2011 18:29

Hi everyone. How are you all doing?

I think that NCSS is having some effect. We have moved DS's dinner time forward by an hour and jiggled bath, playtime and chill out time around. I think that the fact that my milk supply has DRASTICALLY diminished is also helping. But I am scared that it might mean that DS will wean.

Well, not really scared, confused is probably a better description. I'm not entirely sure I want to tandem, but I'll be sad if DS weans before he is really ready...

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MummyBerryJuice · 15/05/2011 18:30

Sending (((hugs)))

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MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 16/05/2011 09:48

Hi everyone,

Bloody hell, i'm grateful for my mil reading about all yours. Sad

My pain is less and i'm thinking that most of it is down to latch...teeth marks being a giveaway. It's only really a prob when he first latches on or if he falls asleep though, and even then i'm coping.

My supply is definatly lower and ds is feeding less, though not dropping night feeds of course. And we sometimes have to get up in the night for snacks for him.

Mbj we have to take water to bed too to combat the salty milk. We use a sports cap water bottle which works well for both of us in the middle of the night.

No sign of colostrum here yet at 20wks...i'm sure i had some around this stage last time. Am wary of colostrum poo...we leave ds nappy free around the house for chunks of the day and he'll reliably use the potty/tell us he needs it, but i fear a runny bum...

How are you coping penguine? Still considering weaning? Could you cut down instead and see how that works?

PenguinArmy · 16/05/2011 18:12

So we've maybe weaned her. She only had night feeds anyway because of my work. We decided that if she woke, she would try and settle her and if she didn't then I would feed. Well we had 2 nights where she instantly settled as soon as the dummy was placed back in, so no feeds.

The pain was actually getting better. It wasn't latch issues, more when she did latch if felt like there were 100's of needles in her mouth being inserted into my breasts.

I can tell she's not been getting a lot, and is still trying to coax more out (with hitting and pulling etc.) Last night we had a time where nothing was settling her, not even a feed (so maybe it's partial weaning instead of full on, who's know). I don't want to name it, I just want to see what happens. In the end we gave her a bottle with some milk in which she drank and then went straight to sleep. Maybe I will try water tonight if the same thing happens.

I imagine if I fed her in the day then she would request it etc. I prepared for some temporary weaning and also the possibility of it being permanent.

MummyBerryJuice · 16/05/2011 19:51

How do you feel about her weaning?

There's a part of me that feels like I would be very relieved if DS weaned but then...

Moonface my DS is really, really thirsty at night but still wakes up and needs to suck (but refuses a dummy Sad) a little to go back to sleep.

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PenguinArmy · 16/05/2011 20:12

I am very mixed.

Sad that I don't meet her calorie needs, sad that I had to supplement last night (thought I would just wean). But maybe I can start to sleep for more than 2 hours at a time and it might help her sleep if she doesn't get food in the night. I am finding it very hard to articulate what I feel. Also I was dreading the feeds even when the pain was getting better and realised that wasn't healthy.

MummyBerryJuice · 16/05/2011 20:39

Hmm, yes.

DS has sddenly started eating a lot more in the last week. He was very much a picker and snacked (with most of his 'snacks' being BM) wherease he has started to really eat at meal times.

I suppose it is a normal part of growing up too but it feels quite sudden to me.

On a happy note, DH has felt the new baby move for the first time this evening. He was massaging my bump with some lovely new 'bump oil' I bought and the baby jumped.

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PenguinArmy · 16/05/2011 22:14

It doesn't help that I've noticed she prefers her father at times now as well and she has stopped instantly smiling when I get in from work. As you say I know this is all normal and an important part of growing up, just rather unexpected. I've remembered that she constantly ate yesterday so she is just extra hungry lately. DH and DD came in and saw me in my lunch and we all went to the beach which was nice, especially as I have a 13 hour work day today.

:) about bump DH has felt mine as well. I have my scan this week, it's early at 18 weeks. Last time I hardly felt bump move but this time it's rather active and i have considerably less strong stomach muscles.

What kind of oil so you have? I've noticed I've not dry skin on my tummy this time around.

MummyBerryJuice · 17/05/2011 00:12

Sad oh Penguin, I'll hold your hand if you want, while you go through this.

The bump oil I'd Neal's Yard Stretch Mark oil it has Mandarin and Neroli eelssential oils and smells yummy. Last time round I used Ren Rose oil and loved going round smelling like roses all day

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MummyBerryJuice · 18/05/2011 06:01

I can't do it anymore. Sad

We are going to the theatre tonight and tomorrow night I'mmgoing tonstart CC. I just can't anymore.

He's been wanting to feed every half an hour since 2 am. And I've just openly sobbed. SadSadSad

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MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 18/05/2011 07:41

oh mbj Sad

Oh penguin Sad

Penguin it sounds like what is happening with you is positive, though understandably sad. As you say your dd is growing up Sad and Smile and maybe you will get more sleep (certainly less pain). And as you say, who knows what the future holds...

Mbj i think you have done so well to get this far. The lack of sleep and skin crawlyness would have dboth.or most people by now. It is understandable if you feel you have given all you can...you have given a lot. It isn't good for you to be upset while feeding, and surely it is better to set an example of loving boundaries, and that includes love for yourself.that is a beautiful thing for your ds to learn. Smile

Do you have a plan? Can your dh go in to settle your ds?

I feel for you both.

MummyBerryJuice · 18/05/2011 08:51

I feel really crap about it all really, he's teething and clearly not 100% and he won't settle for anyone at all other than me, well, sometimes for DH in the evenings.

We've been seeing improvements using NCSS, with him settling at times (even in the middle of the night) with just a cuddle and some singing but last night (and the previous but not AS bad) was horrific.

The thing is also... We are going away for a week next weekend (28th) and it feels cruel to me to CC and then change routine BUT I don't know how many more nights I can survive like this.

SadSadSad

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MoonFaceMamaaaaargh · 18/05/2011 14:01

could it be that he is improving and just thrown off track by teething? Maybe you will see more improvement in a day or two? I know that can feel like years away but i doubt you'll get much rest with cc for a few nights so maybe waiting it out, with dh's help, is an option?

I'm not trying to put you off, of course you know your ds and your own limits so only you can judge what is best for you. A friend went down a similar route recently and had it all sorted in three nights. So this time next week you might be an all new sparkly rested mbj! Smile

Also i would hazard a guess that a lot of the crapness you feel would be helped by rest. Lack of sleep can make anyone glum.

I don't think the cc/holiday combo is cruel. I'd just worry that the excitement might undo all your hard work.

Anyway i hope you have some well deserted fun at the theatre. Smile