Turning the benefits of Breastfeeding into the risks of formula LIST

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What do people think of this?

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Just how much of this can be proved with current studies? eg.less likely to be alive on their third birthday.

Talk about scare mongering?

Mwah, Baroque!

Latest post is about Clare Byam-Cook, if you're bored of Leonie and fancy a read about someone else who purports to be a breastfeeding supporter...

I also tried hard to bf with ds1. I got the point of dreading feeding him,crying etc. I had lots of support from the mw's in hosp but in the end one of them just said,happy mum=happy baby and that to give ff a go. I was like a different person the next day. I spent alot of time feeling guilty though that I never gave him that best start in life,along with having a section what a complete failure as a woman I am!

I'm a breastfeeding Mother, and even i find the link pretty mean. Some Mum's have no choice but to give their babies formula milk - not nice for them to read.

well with your attitude I'm not surprised she told you a spurious reason like that. Funnily enough a young girl I know who recently chose to FF told most of her mates the same thing.......however, I know her (and her mother - who BF all 5 of her children) very well and know the real reasons.

Leonie, haven't you ever learnt the difference between "kind" and "unkind"? "Thoughtful" and "thoughtless"? "Caring" and "uncaring"?

Why does it matter what your opinion of people's reasons is? Why on earth would anyone care whether Leonie thinks it's an acceptable reason, when you are impolite, judgemental and have posted really rather unpleasantly?

yes to YOU leonie, that is the crux of the matter, to you!! but its nothing to do with YOU, its THEIR choice.

and YES i did have psychosis, in answer to you 'if you had' its nice to know that i can rest easy knowing that you think i had a 'genuine medical reason' to ff, like i give a shit what you think!! take your judgemental attitude and dont let the door hit your arse on the way out.

Leonie - can't you try to understand what people are saying to you? Somebody said once, I think it was on here, that a breastfeeding enthusiast can be almost as damaging to a struggling mother as a midwife pushing formula.

still Leonie gives NOOOOOOOOOOO reply !

It doesn't, that's the point!

DS1 didn't give me a choce not to BF - I had one carton of "emergency" milk downstairs. Once night about 4 weeks in one nipple was in tatters - he was still screaming (he actually screamed almost constantly for 6 months...........10yrs later on it's all starting again ), I was exhausted and I went and got that FF.

I followed the advice I'd read about leaving the room and leaving exH (DH as he was then) to feed him. And he just howled, and howled, and howled and howled, and point blank refused to take a drop of the FF. I went back in, in floods of tears and carried on feeding him.

(DS2 and 3 were quite happy to do either or)

I can most defo confirm 4mad was as bad as she said she was :( xx

not bitching leonie, just making the point that you NEED to back off and stop being so judgemental about other peoples choices.

Voddy :(

I did not produce milk I produced blood but you could not see that when dd2 suckled. This was not cracked nipples.

When I said in hospital that she kept bringing up a bit of blood after feeds, they said it was due to the birth (section ...yeah go shoot me on that one too. My first got stuck and they discovered I am too small down below.... not good at this baby malarkey am I? ) So we took her home. She kept feeding, kept sicking up blood, turned yellow and lost weight. She sicked up so much in one go (about 2oz) we took her to A&E.

I WAS POISONING MY OWN CHILD. The Doc said a couple more days and it could have been too late.

So on top of all that, now I have to feel bad my children had formula. Damn, where was that lactating seller when I needed her?

NO ! I want you, Leonie to explain what me and sq and 4mad should have done given you are the fucking gospel on Breastfeeding !

GIVE AN ANSWER THEN IF YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOO RIGHT !

actually - going back to gaelic(?)'s post about tiktok being a trained BFC - she was bloody brilliants nearly 4 years ago when I started mix feeding DS3. Gave me absolutley fabulous advice which I'm certain helped me to carry on with the mix feeding much longer than I would have done without it,

I remember that, Baroque - was that four years ago?! You were concerned that if you dropped a feed or two some days, you wouldn't be able to bf on the days you were with him, iirc?

Leonie - has it not occurred to you that you've got both the "pro" and "choice" sides against you here - and that maybe some of them may have a point???

(btw - you are allowed to change you mind on MN if you realise that your opinion is wildly out of line with many others with the same ideals in mind as yourself)

Honestly, MotherF, I can't leave my house without falling over a wet nurse.

That's sounds awful for you and your DD. And the things is, you should be able to expect support (or at least a lack of judgement) from other mothers. But at the back of your mind, you know there's someone like Leonie judging you without any knowledge of what choices you've made along the way and why.

yes and so do i leonie, but the point is we dont all have to be so obtuse and blatantly rude and upsetting to others when expressing our opinions, can you not see that?

i mean its soo nice of you to tell me how 'harmful' formula feeding is but say that its ok for me to use it due to medical reasons do you NOT see how bloody patronising, condesending and ill thought out that is? telling a mother with mental health issue that because of her mental health issues she should use 'harmful' formula to feed her baby?!! how on earth do you think that would make them feel? oh i forgot, you dont answer rhetorical questions.......