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Greatest novel ever written

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JoonT · 14/03/2023 22:48

What would be your contender for greatest novel ever written? And why? I don't mean your favourite novel. And I don't mean the novel that cheers you up or comforts you, etc. I mean the novel you consider the best.

There are so many classics I've never read it's embarrassing. For example, I've never read Wuthering Heights, Bleak House, Middlemarch, Emma, Robinson Crusoe, Mrs Dalloway, 1984, Brideshead Revisited, Moby Dick, Catch 22, Madame Bovary, Tess of the D'Urbervilles, (I could go on and on). But based on the novels I have read, my vote would go to Dickens' David Copperfield. Pride and Prejudice, Kipling's Kim, Sons and Lovers, The Great Gatsby, etc, would fight it out for second place.

Plenty of novels have given me as much pleasure (Wodehouse's Right Ho Jeeves, for example), but nothing else seems so universal. D.H. Lawrence described the novel as "the bright book of life," and that's a perfect description of David Copperfield. Everything is there, the whole range of human experience. It opens with a beautiful description of childhood, and the way it becomes a lost paradise, and then covers pretty much every human experience, from the death of a parent to the infatuation of sexual love (and the disillusion that follows).

It also contains more characters than any novel I have ever read. And they are so vivid and real. I doubt there is any novel out there (with the possible exceptions of War and Peace and Proust's A La Recherche, neither of which I have read) with so many people and so many voices: Uriah Heep, Mr Micawber, Aunt Betsy, Mr Dick, Steerforth, Peggotty. Amazing. Most novelists can't create one memorable character. Dickens creates at least six in this novel alone.

I also admire the heart of the novel. Dickens rejects moral relativism, and re-affirms what we all, deep down, know is true – that kindness, loyalty, love, courage, dignity, etc, are good, and cruelty, bullying, sadism, betrayal, cowardice, etc, are bad.

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Pallisers · 12/08/2024 22:49

I'd probably say Gilead by Maryanne Robinson - what a shining jewel of a novel, filled with love.

Close second is Middlemarch. The thing about George Eliot is her love for her fellow human beings shines through every word she writes and illuminates her characters. That is true too for Maryanne Robinson.

Pride and Prejudice and Persuasion are also wonderful.

I have read a lot of Dickens but don't like him - I feel he manipulates the reader.

I think Trollope wrote some amazing novels - he had a knack of making you think the characters all had a life beyond the novel - even the minor ones. And his plots are great. The Last Chronicle of Barsetshire is wonderful. Barchester Towers is just so funny.

Agree with Jeeves too.

Yogaandchocolate · 12/08/2024 22:50

Too many to choose from, but I’d be tempted to go for The Count of Monte Cristo. If forced to pick a more modern book I loved The Line of Beauty (although am halfway through Demon Copperhead at the moment and enjoying that too).

Highdaysandholidays1 · 12/08/2024 22:50

Brave New World is still relevant, reread every few years! Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde and The Lost World are all good reread classics too.

Greatest novel, I'd go for:

The Corrections (someone else mentioned this one, epic, long, brilliantly written)- Jonathan Franzen
Remains of the Day- Kazuo Ishiguro
The Parable of the Sower- Octavia Butler
Middlemarch-George Elliot
1984- still relevant as well, in fact more so than ever, it's like Orwell saw Trump coming

Georgie8 · 12/08/2024 22:52

@Ilovemyshed forgot about Delderfield.
Adored the books in the early ‘80s.
Remember being allowed to watch ‘To Serve Them All My Days’ on tv on Saturday nights, at boarding school.
Remember the young Geography teacher on duty switched of the tv when a woman’s bare back appeared 🙄
No remote control in those days, so she had to stampede across 30 11-16 year olds in their pjs and with mugs of hot chocolate.
Carnage 😂

Highdaysandholidays1 · 12/08/2024 22:53

To me, Hilary Mantel is a patchy but brilliant writer, Beyond Black is a fantastic book, not the greatest novel ever written but preferred it to Wolf Hall.

Carolwithane · 12/08/2024 23:00

The Forsythe Saga - reread it every few years, I think it's the language. Also Sunset Song again it's the language it has a rhythm, it grips my heart

Georgie8 · 12/08/2024 23:00

Omg how did I forget Trollope 😱 The Chronicles of Barsetshire and the Pallisers have been on my shelves forever!

Honestly, all we can take from this thread is that there are soooo many fabulous books out there.

I’m going to check out those I’ve never heard of and, possibly, try again to re-read those I’ve never really liked. Although, it’s a big NO to Moby Dick ✋

ilovetomatoes · 12/08/2024 23:20

@Highdaysandholidays1 i came on the day The Corrections. I love Jonathan Franzen and this is his best.

Also The Road by Cormac McCarthy

I loved the Grapes of Wrath. It really stayed with me.

MerylSqueak · 12/08/2024 23:36

I'm so glad A Portrait if a Lady and A Fine Balance have been mentioned. They're wonderful books.

I agree with many more mentioned here too but I gave a little whoop when I saw these ( and Demon Copperhead which I just couldn't put down on holiday last year).

mrsmama · 12/08/2024 23:57

From the ones I have read:

Anna Karenina
Portrait of a Lady
Pride and Prejudice
Jane Eyre
Sense and Sensibility
Great Expectations
Rebecca
The House on the Strand - another fab one by Daphne du maurier !

Would not hesitate to read any of these again and again.But no doubt there must be other unread worthy books out there

MotherofPearl · 13/08/2024 11:42

ilovetomatoes · 12/08/2024 23:20

@Highdaysandholidays1 i came on the day The Corrections. I love Jonathan Franzen and this is his best.

Also The Road by Cormac McCarthy

I loved the Grapes of Wrath. It really stayed with me.

Me too about The Grapes of Wrath. I still think about it from time to time, and it's years since I read it.

Meadowwild · 13/08/2024 12:11

I think the greatest novel ever written is Great Gatsby. It is a shapeshifter of a novel.

It's a crime novel. A romance. A searing social commentary. A bit of escapist glamour. A mystery. A portrait of an era. A portrait of a man. An exploration of The American Dream. It's laugh out loud funny in places, heartbreaking in others. It's several of the classic plots rolled into one: Rags to Riches, Boy Meets Girl, The Quest, Tragedy. It's florid and ornate but bowls along at such a pace, holding so much drama in 180 lyrical pages. Whenever you read it, it's never the same twice.

I don't think any other novel measures up to it in terms of range and scope.

P&P is a perfect novel and hilarious, but so much more contained. Only one social stratum is examined.
Of Mice and Men is perfectly structured but lacks women.
Jekyll and Hyde is pretty perfect - but again, no women!

theleafandnotthetree · 13/08/2024 16:38

Meadowwild · 13/08/2024 12:11

I think the greatest novel ever written is Great Gatsby. It is a shapeshifter of a novel.

It's a crime novel. A romance. A searing social commentary. A bit of escapist glamour. A mystery. A portrait of an era. A portrait of a man. An exploration of The American Dream. It's laugh out loud funny in places, heartbreaking in others. It's several of the classic plots rolled into one: Rags to Riches, Boy Meets Girl, The Quest, Tragedy. It's florid and ornate but bowls along at such a pace, holding so much drama in 180 lyrical pages. Whenever you read it, it's never the same twice.

I don't think any other novel measures up to it in terms of range and scope.

P&P is a perfect novel and hilarious, but so much more contained. Only one social stratum is examined.
Of Mice and Men is perfectly structured but lacks women.
Jekyll and Hyde is pretty perfect - but again, no women!

Amazing and on the button description of The Great Gatsby! Are you a professional writer/critic? If not, you should be 😊

SittingontheSidelines · 15/08/2024 10:35

The goats for me... I love all the Bronte books but Villette is my favourite.
In my early twenties it was "Of Human Bondage" less impressed with this in middle age, must try again
East of Eden
Far from the Madding Crowd
Never let me go
For pure joy of living it has to be "The Darling Buds of May" (which no tv production has come anywhere close to).
1984 and Brave new World
But I could just go on and on adding to the list which defeats the purpose.

Autel · 15/08/2024 10:46

SittingontheSidelines · 15/08/2024 10:35

The goats for me... I love all the Bronte books but Villette is my favourite.
In my early twenties it was "Of Human Bondage" less impressed with this in middle age, must try again
East of Eden
Far from the Madding Crowd
Never let me go
For pure joy of living it has to be "The Darling Buds of May" (which no tv production has come anywhere close to).
1984 and Brave new World
But I could just go on and on adding to the list which defeats the purpose.

Villette is an astonishing novel! And beats all the other Brontë works (and a lot of the 19th novel in English) into a cocked hat…

SittingontheSidelines · 15/08/2024 10:50

@Autel Villette is an astonishing novel! And beats all the other Brontë works (and a lot of the 19th novel in English) into a cocked hat…

I have never understood why it's so overlooked.

TheMarzipanDildo · 15/08/2024 14:40

SittingontheSidelines · 15/08/2024 10:50

@Autel Villette is an astonishing novel! And beats all the other Brontë works (and a lot of the 19th novel in English) into a cocked hat…

I have never understood why it's so overlooked.

And never adapted for TV/film- it would be difficult to stay true to certain elements of the plot though I suppose.

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AliceB1979 · 20/08/2024 21:19

I agree with Pride and Prejudice. Always take it on holiday with me.

Overtheatlantic · 20/08/2024 22:14

There are great novels then there are great writers. For me no one will best PG Wodehouse, the master wordsmith. And Salmon Rushdie’s ‘Midnights Children’ as well.

Jc2001 · 16/09/2024 22:43

Highdaysandholidays1 · 12/08/2024 22:50

Brave New World is still relevant, reread every few years! Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde and The Lost World are all good reread classics too.

Greatest novel, I'd go for:

The Corrections (someone else mentioned this one, epic, long, brilliantly written)- Jonathan Franzen
Remains of the Day- Kazuo Ishiguro
The Parable of the Sower- Octavia Butler
Middlemarch-George Elliot
1984- still relevant as well, in fact more so than ever, it's like Orwell saw Trump coming

I loved A Brave New World. It was a while ago I read it, but it starts off quite clinical in the way he describes the process of genetic engineering. It almost felt like a science lesson. But then it turns into one of the most of emotional and humain books I've ever read. I was welling up by the end. It stuck with me for months after reading it.

Rummly · 16/09/2024 23:08

Of course there’s no objectively greatest novel. But for me, all considered, Middlemarch. A work of sublime craft. Never bettered. Wonderful, wonderful book.

I adore Orwell but I don’t think of him as a novelist. I think of him as a writer. His non-fiction is in my opinion the best of his work. The collected essays are possibly the best factual, observational works in the English language. He was a genius.

(Quick poke at the Goldfinch, since it’s come up. I think it’s truly terrible. Far too long, clumsily written and, well, dull.)

GloriaMundy · 17/09/2024 19:48

Maybe I should try re-reading Brave New World. We did at school and when I tried to read it as an adult, it took me back to boring English Lit classes, reading it very slowly. Blush

PeterCapaldiBae · 17/09/2024 20:19

The Birds by Daphne Du Maurier

I think it's just exquisite. I love all of her stuff, though. She's magnificent.

Jux · 10/10/2024 15:50

1984, Orwell. Was dystopian. Now reality.