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Is anyone else terrified by the popularity of Reform UK?

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NewNameNigel · 24/06/2024 16:07

I am. I feel like it's indicative of sentiment that is really bad for me and my family.

I know that they are unlikely to win many seats but the fact that so many people will consider voting for racists is not a good sign.

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PerfectYear321 · 20/07/2024 23:42

LadyKenya · 05/07/2024 20:25

They must be feeling rather downhearted, I would have thought. I have been to Clacton in the past, for seaside day trips. I would not step foot there now, that is for sure.

Clacton Reform voters are getting exactly what they deserved. They can't say they weren't warned, can they? He's fucked off to America for a few months, a couple of weeks after the election! Did anyone ever believe he was going to be a real MP? 🤣🤣🤣

Characterbuilding · 21/07/2024 00:07

My mum mentioned liking the straight talking demeanour of Nigel Farage. She also thinks radical change is needed in society and this cannot be delivered by either of the main parties.
My Uncle (in his 70’s) and my cousin (50’s) also voted reform. I can’t speculate on their reasoning.
They are high income and high achieving (academically and in terms of business and personal wealth). They are different ages but success is a common denominator. In reference to my uncle, like many from the Windrush generation who came from the Caribbean islands he and my aunt worked extremely hard against all odds for themselves, for Britain and for their home countries.
I have only spoken to my mum about her reasons for gravitating towards them but she didn’t vote as she is against photo id.

LadyKenya · 21/07/2024 09:18

PerfectYear321 · 20/07/2024 23:42

Clacton Reform voters are getting exactly what they deserved. They can't say they weren't warned, can they? He's fucked off to America for a few months, a couple of weeks after the election! Did anyone ever believe he was going to be a real MP? 🤣🤣🤣

That man does not care a fig for these people who voted for his party. They will learn soon enough. What is he playing at rushing to offer his support to Trump? He should be worrying about his own constituents🤔. Their lives will not be improved one jot. Farage is all mouth.

PandoraSox · 21/07/2024 11:13

Apparently Trump hasn't even bothered to say as much as a hello to Farage. I think the friendship is a bit one sided!

LadyKenya · 21/07/2024 14:32

He really is like a lovesick puppy, hoping to get noticed by the object of his admiration. His ambitions are bigger than he is!

NewNameNigel · 06/08/2024 14:40

Given the current situation with riots I hope the posters who were dismissive of the fears black women expressed on this thread now understand where the fear came from.

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Justice88 · 06/08/2024 21:29

@Characterbuilding really embarrassing when ethnic vote reform to be honest. Comes off as very uneducated

PerfectYear321 · 06/08/2024 23:13

NewNameNigel · 06/08/2024 14:40

Given the current situation with riots I hope the posters who were dismissive of the fears black women expressed on this thread now understand where the fear came from.

You were right 😫

Krampers · 07/08/2024 06:17

Justice88 · 06/08/2024 21:29

@Characterbuilding really embarrassing when ethnic vote reform to be honest. Comes off as very uneducated

They are uneducated

LadyKenya · 07/08/2024 09:39

Krampers · 07/08/2024 06:17

They are uneducated

Tbf I am wondering if it is a matter of them feeling that they are totally separate from asylum seekers etc. A total failure to realise that the colour of their skin will always be a visible sign to some people that they do not belong here either, in their eyes. Take for instance those poor poc who were attacked, during these riots. The people attacking them on sight for the colour of their skin, were not asking if they were born here, or just recently arrived etc, before they savagely attacked them. The rhetoric coming from those leaders of the Reform party, should strike fear in every poc.

Characterbuilding · 08/08/2024 16:39

LadyKenya · 07/08/2024 09:39

Tbf I am wondering if it is a matter of them feeling that they are totally separate from asylum seekers etc. A total failure to realise that the colour of their skin will always be a visible sign to some people that they do not belong here either, in their eyes. Take for instance those poor poc who were attacked, during these riots. The people attacking them on sight for the colour of their skin, were not asking if they were born here, or just recently arrived etc, before they savagely attacked them. The rhetoric coming from those leaders of the Reform party, should strike fear in every poc.

This is very insightful and quite possibly the stimulus for such voting patterns. Whilst I don’t condone their voting preference (obviously) I do think it is always important to understand different viewpoints in order to "dismantle" them effectively. Just dismissing them as uneducated is too basic. I think the colonial impact runs very deep, coupled with the strong "othering" of other ethnic groups. For example in the areas of the Caribbean my family come from, there is minimal religious difference. Denominational yes, but even then a strong sense of Christianity reverberates regardless of differences in practice ie. Belief in Christ is unified. There are not significant numbers of immigrants, asylum seekers or people of different faith challenging the landscape of the countries they came from. These countries have largely preserved Christianity in a specific way and would be resistant to outside influences changing their culture. The issue is complicated. Also a lack of understanding of the "ground level" problems black people from different socioeconomic backgrounds are facing might be an issue. If you are in a higher income bracket these issues affect you less. For example, if you are in the older age bracket and have risen from poverty in your home country, built yourself and your family wealth and success through hard work and overcoming adversity, maybe the allegiance (however misplaced) to the nation that enabled that evolution is strong. It’s an interesting "aside" issue to discuss during these troubling times.

GreyBeeplus3 · 13/01/2026 19:24

Yes I truly am
The press and media are hating on Labour who at the moment cannot do anything right according to them whilst inheriting about 14 years if tory underfunding
Benefit cuts, immigration and claims from grotty farage that the RNLI are a taxi service quicker to english shores for rapist foreigners/spongers won't have helped either.
I think that the UK has always had a problem with race beneath its veneer and before some white person reading this takes offence and tells me to get back on the boat,
Well I was actually born here so tough tissue to you me dears
I just want to say

GreyBeeplus3 · 13/01/2026 20:31

But what gets me, is I've heard it said that reform seemed to be making headway with mumsnet on the radio two days ago.....

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