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Mob Incident In Surrey

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user1477255159 · 07/02/2023 20:06

Has anyone seen or heard about this?

My heart is breaking, why are humans like this? Not one single human tried to help her. They tore out her braids from her scalp and beat her black and blue; ofcourse it won't show as much because of the colour of her skin and the fact that black skin is thicker than white skin. This is so sad. Schools needs to teach kindness and character to students instead of all this trans nonsense! Trans people, dogs and cats seem to have more protection in this country. I'm in tears. What can we do to change people like this??

I've written to several MPs and councillors, please do too.

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e11even · 08/02/2023 09:56

The most disgusting thing I've seen in ages. I'd be devastated if that was my loved one and it should never have taken that long for an adult to intervene. Just awful!

Alphabetasoul · 08/02/2023 11:24

This is going to be a minefield for the police to sort out .

Alphabetasoul · 08/02/2023 11:25

CaravaggiosCat · 08/02/2023 08:17

Just here to reiterate the point made above.
As someone who cannulates patients, SKIN IS SKIN and NO black skin is NOT thicker.

Well said . It's skin . We've all got it .

ViburnumFarreri · 08/02/2023 13:32

dummyd · 07/02/2023 22:10

Where is it? Can't see how people calling the attack vile is anti-traveller. Also, can't just be me who had no idea they were travellers, how do you tell?

I don’t see any anti-Traveller prejudice either - just statements of facts.

@dummyd Irish Travellers usually have a very distinctive accent (it’s quite a pleasant accent, actually, to my ears). The adult in the video repeatedly telling the child to kick the poor lass in the face definitely had it.

I can’t believe how the teachers just sort of sauntered up at the end - no sense of urgency. Angry

I hope the poor girl is ok.

DeeCeeCherry · 08/02/2023 17:38

Ashford
95.0% White 1.5% S.Asian 1.4% Black 1.3% Mixed Race.

I would NEVER live in nor raise my DCs in such a non-diverse area. I don't care how 'pretty' it may be or how brilliant the schools are (albeit this school has a bad reputation, it seems) or how much more house I could get for my money. I live where I see my own. Non-diverse= non-safe. I fail to understand why moving closer to where your safety is lessened just because you think you'll be living somewhere oh so nice, is seen as a step up.

No, its not perfect or safe in London but I'll take my chances here rather than be the only Black family for miles around. We aren't welcome everywhere. A Black girl on the floor having her head kicked in didn't even stir people to call police, instead of rubbernecking from their cars.

(I'm speaking generally on Black people moving to these places).

As for 'protected minorities', numerous are as racist if not more, towards Black people as any White English racist is. We have all of that to contend with.

That poor girl. I can't bear to think about this brutal situation.

RealMcKoy · 08/02/2023 20:43

This area is just outside Heathrow. There are plenty of areas in London proper where I woudn't live as a Black person. I know some of the "tells"; 1930-1950 reddy brown brick council house estates are usually the preserve of generational white working /underclass families. Just off of Red Post Hill ( those who know, know), my cousin was moved into a flat on one of those estates and got shit posted through her door and told to "go back home". Downham is full of them and I don't care how many Black people live there now, I'd move to Leeds before I moved there. The whole Borough of Greenwich can do one, too. Bromley is where I had to beat two racist white women as a teen and run barefoot to catch the bus back to civilisation.

It's zone two/one all the way for me, if it's London.

Barking, Dagenham, Canning Town, Beckton, Woolwich, Thamesmead, Bermondsey, Plumstead, Rotherhithe were and still are areas that many long time West Indian heritage Black people in London still wouldn't be seen dead living in as they remember how these specific areas bred an inordinate amount of racist, bitter white working class/underclass families who were extremely snide about diverse areas like East Ham, Ilford, Manor and Upton park, Peckham and Lewisham, etc. I won't even chat about how Romford used to stay.

I am not au fait with these types of areas in the outer reaches of West London as Ashford seems to be. But I noticed the "tells" of "spot the South Asian/Black", that familiar terraced housing and not a lot of trees lining the streets when I watched that horrible video.

This incident took place in the London Borough of Hounslow. So to say that London per se is a paradise of diversity and acceptance is a lie.
I always say to myself that if a Place in London outside of zones 1 & 2 has no South Asians , that is the "tell" that it is either a cultural wasteland, too rich for my pocket, a shithole or most definitely racist if it is white working/underclass.

And I won't be gaslit into thinking different. It's kept me from having to beat up any racists since the 1980s. I've been Black a long arsed time in London and just like New York City vis a vis Staten Island, there are a lot of places where Black people are not welcome.

This country is still overwhelmingly white and in London, Black people are mostly ghettoised to certain areas, pr certain types of areas, no matter income, which is both good and bad for us as the cheek by jowl livity is not producing good health and social outcomes, but the racism outside of these areas will send too many of us to prison or hospital.

Denzelstowel · 08/02/2023 20:49

This is an update explaining what led to the incident. Poor girl, she was sticking up for her friend who is White and the travellers picked on her alone but then her "friend"' just left her to it.

www.instagram.com/reel/CoaGhL6Irj3/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Meredusoleil · 08/02/2023 21:35

RealMcKoy · 08/02/2023 20:43

This area is just outside Heathrow. There are plenty of areas in London proper where I woudn't live as a Black person. I know some of the "tells"; 1930-1950 reddy brown brick council house estates are usually the preserve of generational white working /underclass families. Just off of Red Post Hill ( those who know, know), my cousin was moved into a flat on one of those estates and got shit posted through her door and told to "go back home". Downham is full of them and I don't care how many Black people live there now, I'd move to Leeds before I moved there. The whole Borough of Greenwich can do one, too. Bromley is where I had to beat two racist white women as a teen and run barefoot to catch the bus back to civilisation.

It's zone two/one all the way for me, if it's London.

Barking, Dagenham, Canning Town, Beckton, Woolwich, Thamesmead, Bermondsey, Plumstead, Rotherhithe were and still are areas that many long time West Indian heritage Black people in London still wouldn't be seen dead living in as they remember how these specific areas bred an inordinate amount of racist, bitter white working class/underclass families who were extremely snide about diverse areas like East Ham, Ilford, Manor and Upton park, Peckham and Lewisham, etc. I won't even chat about how Romford used to stay.

I am not au fait with these types of areas in the outer reaches of West London as Ashford seems to be. But I noticed the "tells" of "spot the South Asian/Black", that familiar terraced housing and not a lot of trees lining the streets when I watched that horrible video.

This incident took place in the London Borough of Hounslow. So to say that London per se is a paradise of diversity and acceptance is a lie.
I always say to myself that if a Place in London outside of zones 1 & 2 has no South Asians , that is the "tell" that it is either a cultural wasteland, too rich for my pocket, a shithole or most definitely racist if it is white working/underclass.

And I won't be gaslit into thinking different. It's kept me from having to beat up any racists since the 1980s. I've been Black a long arsed time in London and just like New York City vis a vis Staten Island, there are a lot of places where Black people are not welcome.

This country is still overwhelmingly white and in London, Black people are mostly ghettoised to certain areas, pr certain types of areas, no matter income, which is both good and bad for us as the cheek by jowl livity is not producing good health and social outcomes, but the racism outside of these areas will send too many of us to prison or hospital.

Just fyi, Ashford is most certainly not in the London Borough of Hounslow. It's actually in Spelthorne which is not a London Borough at all. It comes under Surrey County Council.

Jazzandblues · 08/02/2023 21:36

I am horrified at the blatant lack of interest in the headteachers face. He does not seem one bit interested in speaking to the people whom gathered outside the school nor reassuring them.

Having read the statement they have released it says nothing about what steps exactly, will there be any exclusions, what is being put in place for the girl and others. In the video going around, many black parents speak to the headteacher explaining that they haven't been able to get an appointment for weeks and a child was beaten up in class.

None of this seems normal. So what is actually going to be done. Serious safeguarding concerns and obvious this isn't a one off. The teachers made no effort to quickly get to her too. Obvious faliure.

GoAgainstNicki · 09/02/2023 13:45

I genuinely cannot believe how uninterested the headmaster was?! My good God.

I also have no words for the mother who was encouraging this level of violence. This is another example of people not viewing black children as children! All those people who watched in their cars didn’t even bat an eyelid. Fuck them all.

I hope the girl has a strong support system because what happened is awful. I’d have to move areas and my child would be changing schools.

I’m happy to hear there’s been multiple arrests (even though one teenager is still on the run). I hope suitable charges follow

Delectable · 09/02/2023 15:01

These are the sort of people who will gladly fulfil Jeremy Clarkson's fantasy if they have the opportunity.

CaravaggiosCat · 09/02/2023 20:24

There are currently two Change.org petitions to sign if anyone hasn't done so already.

Denzelstowel · 09/02/2023 21:57

CaravaggiosCat · 09/02/2023 20:24

There are currently two Change.org petitions to sign if anyone hasn't done so already.

Can you add the links please

CaravaggiosCat · 09/02/2023 22:04

Apologies please find link to petition 2 below
https://www.change.org/p/bring-richard-beeson-headteacher-at-kynvett-college-to-book

CaravaggiosCat · 09/02/2023 22:06

https://www.change.org/p/young-black-girl-assaulted

Petition 1

Dumelang · 09/02/2023 22:58

Thank you for the petition links.

The police thought it appropriate to describe this as 'a fight between girls'. Having watched the sickening video, that was the last thing it was. I believe it is a huge mistake to bail these individuals when both the risk of flight and the intimidation of witnesses seems high:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-64585043

Dumelang · 09/02/2023 23:04

Sorry, 'a fight between a group of girls'.

As well as the risks of flight and witness intimidation, given the seriousness and the obvious aggravating factors why are they not in custody?

They could have killed her.

CaravaggiosCat · 09/02/2023 23:18

Hmm...bailed never to be seen again I see. I wonder if they'll show up alongside the other criminal they want to speak to.
Absolute joke.

Dumelang · 09/02/2023 23:24

I have also read that the victim went to a friend's home after the attack and used the phone to contact her family to come and get her? Why did the school not call an ambulance or take her to hospital and urgently contact her family - when her head had been repeatedly kicked and stamped on, never mind everything else? Where is the school's duty of care and just their plain humanity?

Katjolo · 10/02/2023 06:47

Absolutely sickening. The 'mother' encouraging her child to beat the girl up is unbelievable. Why have they been given bail? Never to be seen again, no doubt.

debbrianna · 10/02/2023 08:24

I will start to remind my dd not to defend her friends. These scenarios happen too often where they end up being injured or killed. Too many of these incidents have ended up in the news. It is sad, but looking after number one should be a priority.

Reugny · 10/02/2023 19:14

@RealMcKoy outer London boroughs and parts of the Home Counties have plenty of black people living in them now.

However like the threads on here asking where to live, make sure if you have children or are planning to have them you aren't the first black person in the area and the handful in the school. (Saying that I know off some terrible primary schools in inner London.)

Reugny · 10/02/2023 19:18

Dumelang · 09/02/2023 23:24

I have also read that the victim went to a friend's home after the attack and used the phone to contact her family to come and get her? Why did the school not call an ambulance or take her to hospital and urgently contact her family - when her head had been repeatedly kicked and stamped on, never mind everything else? Where is the school's duty of care and just their plain humanity?

With some schools as long as it happens outside the school grounds they aren't interested.

With better schools if you are uniform and can be identified as a pupil of staff at the school will act.

Lndnmummy · 10/02/2023 20:34

I agree with every single word. We will always live in a flat, will never have a garden. But I will never ever move my kids from where they feel safe and belong.
This incident is heart breaking.

Lndnmummy · 10/02/2023 20:35

Sorry my
comment was for @RealMcKoy