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Sistah Space

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RedWingBoots · 30/11/2022 13:12

Just hearing this now on the radio.

The Palace hasn't disputed it.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/queen-consort-camilla-buckingham-palace-women-violence-guest-racial-heritage/

A member of the Buckingham Palace household has resigned and apologised after the 'unacceptable and regrettable comments' made at the Queen Consort's reception.

It comes after a guest at a Buckingham Palace event on violence against women hosted by the Queen Consort complained she was asked several questions about her racial heritage that she found “insulting.”

Ngozi Fulani, CEO of Hackney Charity Sistah Space, a group that supports African and Caribbean women affected by domestic and sexual abuse, said she had suffered “trauma” and “damage” after being “invited and then insulted” to the event.

She said a member of Palace staff moved her hair out of the way of her name badge before asking her questions about her heritage that left her “shocked”.

She said two other women who overheard the exchange were also “stunned to temporary silence.”

She said: “10 mins after arriving, a member of staff approached me, moved my hair to see my name badge.”

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TooBigForMyBoots · 12/12/2022 18:18

Bobbins36 · 12/12/2022 18:10

This is pretty damning stuff if true. All charities should be rigorously vetted imo

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1601735411860406274.html

If true?

Why are people linking to this woman hating, racist creep on the Black Mumsnetter topic?Xmas Confused

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 12/12/2022 18:33

Is it really mean that I can picture people like this, sat in their mums box room, crisp crumbs down their top, frantically typing, looking for any old bit of ‘dirt’ to discredit a black woman who must not be allowed to be vindicated under any circumstances 🙄

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 12/12/2022 18:49

Even if, IF, big huge massive IF, something has gone on re accounts/charitable funds, it has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at the palace. Nothing. Diddly squat. This reeks of showing a black woman her place. Revenge on the black woman who dared to show the rich elderly white woman up. How dare black people think they can get away with calling us white people out for shitty racist behaviour? Quick! We must get digging for anything, anything at all to discredit the black person, to show them why talking down to them is perfectly acceptable. It’s true what I said a few days ago. Some people will never really believe a black person can be British. It stinks.

tabulahrasa · 12/12/2022 20:28

Bobbins36 · 12/12/2022 18:10

This is pretty damning stuff if true. All charities should be rigorously vetted imo

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1601735411860406274.html

That’s the same Twitter thread that was already being discussed.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/12/2022 20:32

tabulahrasa · 12/12/2022 20:28

That’s the same Twitter thread that was already being discussed.

I know. It's astounding how many Mnetters follow this racist no mark.Xmas Hmm

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 12/12/2022 21:06

Who is he toobigformyboots? Has he got form for this?

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:47

toffeecrisps · 12/12/2022 09:43

It's sad how desperate he is to discredit this charity.

I don’t think he has to do much to discredit it - it seems to be public knowledge that it’s a grift.

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:49

LadyKenya · 12/12/2022 10:23

Yep, with too many people willing to accept it all with no proof whatsoever.

He’s posted plenty of proof and his thread is based on public documents. I see no evidence he is racist or misogynist.

toffeecrisps · 12/12/2022 22:26

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:47

I don’t think he has to do much to discredit it - it seems to be public knowledge that it’s a grift.

So what does that have to do with the racist comments that were made towards Ngozi Fulani?

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/12/2022 22:29

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:47

I don’t think he has to do much to discredit it - it seems to be public knowledge that it’s a grift.

Yeah, so well known that Ngozi Fulani was invited by the Palace to recognize her contribution to women and girls suffering from male violence.Xmas Hmm

tabulahrasa · 12/12/2022 22:30

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:49

He’s posted plenty of proof and his thread is based on public documents. I see no evidence he is racist or misogynist.

😳 the full Twitter thread is a wild ride, I’d only seen the finances bit before, the rest is, um, interesting 😐

He’s accusing hackney council of paying them off, some of his “proof” is things like reflections in windows on google street view.

WeDontTalkAboutBrunoNoNoNo · 13/12/2022 00:05

This has honestly got to be one of the most disturbing displays of hatred I've seen on the internet for a long while. Surely, most people who have a concern about an organisation report it to the relevant authorities and let those that are paid to do something about it crack on. That Twitter thread is mammoth. The effort that must have gone into that "deep dive" is immense. Even if proven to be true, you're not going to tell me that this person cares so much about the plight of domestic violence victims that this is some valiant effort to right some injustice. I'd be interested to know what his charitable efforts look like other wise and how much all domestic violence victims have benefitted from their philanthropic efforts. This came from a place of deep rooted hatred for a woman who dared to speak up about a racist encounter she experienced at the hands of the institution we are all told were supposed to revere and she is a representation of all black women in this country that won't simply pipe down and accept all instances of racism that come our way just because "we're not as bad as other countries/it was a different time/can't say anything nowadays/insert racist apologist here".

Trawling through accounts is one thing but pointing out charity collection tins in photographs is ludicrous and very clear effort to discredit rather than actually giving a shit. To claim that a high level of DV in that borough is down to funds being allocated to SS is absolutely insane.

If there's wrongdoing to be investigated, then let it be so but I'd question how it's possible for a charity to be invited to BP without the palace doing their due diligence first.

And the Mumsnetters rubbing their hands in glee to post it here on this existing thread in support of Sistah Space isn't the "gotcha" some of you think it is. Interesting that I see no mention of this tweet in the longer thread about the incident at BP, only in this one. How very predictable.

Quaagars · 13/12/2022 00:52

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 12/12/2022 18:49

Even if, IF, big huge massive IF, something has gone on re accounts/charitable funds, it has absolutely nothing to do with what happened at the palace. Nothing. Diddly squat. This reeks of showing a black woman her place. Revenge on the black woman who dared to show the rich elderly white woman up. How dare black people think they can get away with calling us white people out for shitty racist behaviour? Quick! We must get digging for anything, anything at all to discredit the black person, to show them why talking down to them is perfectly acceptable. It’s true what I said a few days ago. Some people will never really believe a black person can be British. It stinks.

This. I've been following it playing it out on Twitter.
These people didn't give a shit about the charity before.
Now they're suddenly oh so concerned about the charity's status, finance etc, based on what happened at the Palace and nothing else?! 🙄
It smacks of trying to find anything to drag them down for daring to speak up and not just shut up.
As you say, it completely stinks.

LadyKenya · 13/12/2022 19:31

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 21:49

He’s posted plenty of proof and his thread is based on public documents. I see no evidence he is racist or misogynist.

Hmmm I cannot even begin to wonder why that may be. I am not surprised though. The frothing racists, outraged that this black woman dared to speak out.

Reugny · 16/12/2022 15:20

A statement has been issued by Buck Palace - www.royal.uk/statement-buckingham-palace-and-ngozi-fulani-founder-sistah-space

You squatters can foxtrot oscar.

pikiwop54 · 16/12/2022 18:18

Reugny · 16/12/2022 15:20

A statement has been issued by Buck Palace - www.royal.uk/statement-buckingham-palace-and-ngozi-fulani-founder-sistah-space

You squatters can foxtrot oscar.

That won't stop them, they'll find some excuse.

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 16/12/2022 22:28

SueVineer · 12/12/2022 08:09

It’s not the necessarily the first response to investigate the “victim” but when there are so many glaring red flags, why would we ignore them? Seems like quite valid allegations of cultural appropriation as well as grifting and possible fraud.

How are complaints of cultural appropriation valid?

All I have seen is various (white) people say 'If NF doesn't definitively know she is x (due to the lack of historical records during slave trade) then we can definitively say she can't be x' which is not quite the same thing as cultural appropriation, its just people's assumptions, which are supposedly more valid than a black womans

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