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Due SEPTEMBER thread 12 - the big countdown ...

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franch · 16/08/2005 21:44

Here we go

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Boompi · 29/08/2005 21:26

Diane - think mixed feelings are the appropriate response!
Getting very restless - cant relax or sleep and feel I should be doing something. Guess this is nesting. 39 weeks today!
Had bizarre pain over pubic bone yesterday night - felt like my pubic hair was caught in a zipper - sorry if tmi - dont know how else to describe it!
Also having weird baby dreams - one almost 'Alien' like and in another I had twins, one of which weighed 15 pounds. Guess im getting labour anxiety!!

Redhelen · 29/08/2005 21:30

Ahh Diane - I can imagine - what a stressful dayxx

Beatie and Katts thanks for the info about what ROA meant the baby always hangs out on my right - very odd shaped bump! so that makes sence!

Connfirming my birthing plan with mw tomorrow - its very hot!!! hope sleep wont be difficult - was ordering baby stuff on ebay this morning 2-3am!!! but did manage to sleep before and after - think the baby is booking is 'early morning slot!'

zoezebra · 29/08/2005 21:38

Boompi - feeling the same as you.....restless, yet knackered. Know I should be trying to sleep but as soon as try to can't, then get heartburn.
Also having strange feeling in pubic area, almost like a sharp pain that makes you gasp. Its because the baby is so far engaged and its grating on the pubic bone....nice. Apparently mine is also to do with the way its lying, head down but back to back.....it had better bloody turn in labour. Also been getting horrendous sciatica on right side for last 2 weeks. God I sound like the walking wounded.
Diane 77 - I'll just echo everyone elses words, shame about the cancellation of your cs but at least the recovery time will be quicker and I always think whats meant to be is meant to be!!

DH just bought some revels back from the local late night shop, managed to scoff the lot in about 2 secs flat. Am sure they will give me amazing heartburn in bed later but don't care at the moment!!
Off to bed now to try and get some shut eye in case it kicks off tonight....ha in my dreams.

Kiwifruit · 29/08/2005 21:43

Diane - poor you - getting all that way must have been frustrating! Still, good that the baby has turned - fingers crossed that it will happen soon for you!!!

Finally packed my hospital bag today. Well, my labour bag, at least. Still need to get a few things for my hospital bag - will try and pick them up tomorrow afternoon (after lunch). It's something that I've been putting off for ages - think I was thinking that it would all be a bit too real once the bag was packed!

Can't believe how much hotter it is today than it has been lately - my feet are enormous!!

Poor DH has come down with a nasty cold - will not be happy if he passes it on to me - not what I need right now!

Kiwifruit · 29/08/2005 21:49

Kiwi Kate - what optimal fetal positioning exercises are you doing? I try to make sure my knees are always lower than my hips, and try to spend about 30 mins a day kneeling and leaning forward onto my swiss ball - anything else I should be doing?

milward · 29/08/2005 23:13

Diane - must be difficult having to rethink the birth experience. AT least no cs means recovery will be faster.
Not sleeping much so feel tired out. Heartburn, loo plus turning over all wake me up all night. Nearly the end of school hols so hopefully will be able to rest abit before little one is born.

bubbles2904 · 30/08/2005 05:16

good morning all, well i realise that it is ridiculous am but this is late for me, i've been up since 2:23am. woke up after dreaming i was having pains and zoezebra and redhelen were telling me that i wasn't in labour and it was because i'd ate choc cake before bed (which i hadn't). lol, comes to something when you dream about people you don't even know. anyway have been getting bad pains since i got up so have had to come downstairs so i don't wake dp with my moaning as i'm sure it's another false alarm, although my bump has definetely dropped since last night.
is anyone else really fed up now?

PiccadillyCircus · 30/08/2005 07:53

Hope you've managed to get some more sleep bubbles - being awake at the wrong time is horrid .

I am still here - no baby yet (not that I thought there would be but I did quite like the idea of having to summon DH here at top speed. Talking of which, he still isn't back which I guess means there have been problems with the dismantling. I will phone him some time).

Thought that maybe my waters were breaking when I sneezed and liquid came out, but it was an indication of not strong enough pelvic floor muscles . At least it was on the bedroom floor (wooden).

SIL coming over today to help with DS looking after. We are going to a toddler group and then hopefully this afternoon I will have more sleep. I could seriously sleep for about 25 hours a day at the moment (and that isn't a typo ).

mummyhill · 30/08/2005 08:53

I am fed up. After all the excitement over the weekend everything is back to being normal. No twinges this morning well never mind just means I will have to call everyone out of work when the fun starts. Actually managed to sleep really well last night but am still feeling really shattered this morning. Feel as if I could sleep the clock around at the moment!!!

Redhelen · 30/08/2005 08:54

Blimey bubbles!

Were myself and Zoezebra - in your dream as real people or 'vertially' as I look just like Angelina Jolie - after a very terrible incident with a tyre pump! and if you can't go into labour if you've eaten chocolate cake - there will be no hope for me!

and yes I'm fed up with being pregnant too- thinking of serving the baby notice to leave!

Do you think another baby will appear in August - or a flurry of babies in September??

zoezebra · 30/08/2005 09:19

Hi all - dreadful nights sleep, feel like I have been awake all night. Off to a friends today so that dd can play and I can get some coffee and garden time with friend. Feel a bit weird about driving at the moment, what happens if contractions start?? Think this might be my last trip out in the car with me driving.
Hot again today, feet are swelling too, so good a look!!
Bubbles - laughing about your dream, is'nt it weird the things that PG make you dream about. I had lots of weird ones in second tri but none recently.
I think these babies are all going to hold out til Sept....Hmph.

mummyhill · 30/08/2005 09:34

My midwife actually addressed a lecture to my bump yesterday telling the baby to hurry up and come out rather than staying put and making mummy uncomfy. I was well impressed!!!! DD though it was funny and now keeps shouting come out and play at my tummy.

RedZuleika · 30/08/2005 09:36

If there's going to be another baby in August, it had better get its skates on!

Morning morning. Yawn. Very sleepy at the moment. And my stomach really is rumpling and bumpling like John Hurt's in Alien.

Feel like things are falling into place now: there's still Stuff all over the place, but the Birthpool in a Box has arrived, the cooking frenzy is completed, the essential oils are purchased... and today the poor dog is being taken for his pre-labour low maintenance haircut.

Thanks for comments re grandmother and consultant matters. The funeral is today, but as it is over the other side of the country, I've decided not to go (actually - my grandfather practically forbade me from going). I don't fancy getting caught short in early labour on the M4 (unlikely as this may be) - and my midwife suggested a while ago that long car journeys whilst the baby is engaging are not a good idea - because it might turn due to your posture and descend at an angle you'll regret later. I do feel rather bad about missing it - not least because my poor old mother has had to organise everything on her own.

Kiwikate: I agree that one needs to listen to one's own body, particularly in the absence of any facts.

My husband has come round to the notion that we don't attend the 39 week appointment, but have the blood test done by the midwife at home. I think it was when I pointed out to him that adrenalin trumps oxytocin - so being stressed is going to delay labour - that did it. At 39 weeks, I think I should be mainly sniffing rose oil and listening to whale music...

Incidentally, for those people being threatened with induction post 40 weeks - I don't know if you've seen the statistics on stillbirths at each week from 35 through to 43? Yes, there is an increasing risk at weeks 41, 42, 43 - but it's not a massive and substantial risk. Certainly not as large as some doctors would have you believe. I don't know what the law is in NZ, but in this country you can legally refuse induction indefinitely. Obviously, it's up to the individual what level of risk they are happy to accept: I know someone who would insure their freezer contents even if they only had one veggie sausage in there (amusingly, she's also a newly qualified doctor and thinks it's dangerous to allow a pregnancy to go to 40+1...).

Boompi: I've had the pubic-hair-caught-in-zipper feeling for quite a while (although I likened it to having my pubes pulled out in a line with sellotape). It's the symphysis pubic bone. When I went to the osteopath last week, she said that one side had risen up above the other side, due to the softening ligaments. I find it most problematic when getting out of bed in the morning - never quite sure if my pelvis is going to collapse under my weight...

Right. Better go and do something constructive. Or at the very least, make a cup of tea.

LadyLazarus · 30/08/2005 09:47

RZ - sympathies to you re: your grandma. I kind of know what it's like, as I found out a couple of days ago that my nanna is in intensive care after having a perforated bowel, sepsis + peritonitis... this is in Yorkshire, and I feel a bit out on a limb being so far away from it all and not being able to do anything (although what help I'd be even if I could go is anyone's guess). Not looking great for her, yesterday the family were told she's got about 24hrs left. Feel very but trying to stay strong for baby. Not easy tho.

mummyhill · 30/08/2005 09:56

((hugs)) Ladylazarus.

bubbles2904 · 30/08/2005 10:08

Ladyl, sorry about your nanna too, must be awful.
Redhelen, that is so weird as you looked like the spitting image of angelina jolie, wow, thats creepy. LOL i managed to get back to sleep at about 7ish and woke about 9:30 so am absolutely shattered. my friend has just phoned to see if i want to go shopping with her. might go to get myself and dd out of the house, we've been like hermits for the last few weeks and i feel sorry for her as it's school holidays and her mum is a big fat useless lump.
i want this baby out before thursday for mil, and if i get my way, it will be out later today as still getting twinges and bad backache. the best thing about being pg is having no periods, shame you still get the bloody cramps!!!!!

Kiwifruit · 30/08/2005 10:19

(((((hugs)))) LadyL - sorry to hear about your nanna.

I had a rubbish sleep last night too . Think it was the increased temperature, after a few weeks of cooler evenings.

Mummyhill - LOL at your DD yelling at your tummy.

RE induction - am sure that in France they consider full term to be 42 weeks, and don't induce immediately if you go over. Really want to avoid induction, as that means no birthing unit and no birthing pool, which would not make me happy

Right, had better go and get myself ready to go and meet the London Ladies for lunch...

bubbles2904 · 30/08/2005 10:21

oh wow, forgot about your meet up. hope you all have a lovely day xxx

Boompi · 30/08/2005 10:39

I am sorry re your grans RZ and LadyL - Mine is 97 and I will be devastated when she leaves us.

RZ - do you knpow link for stillbirth stats post term? Not cheerful subject I know but I would be interested.

KiwiKate · 30/08/2005 10:43

Hi all

Redhelen all of the terms (ROA, LOA, ROP, LOP) all mean head down, bum up! (obviously much better than breach!).

The L or R refers to Left or Right. O refers to Occipit (baby's head). A = Anterior (baby's back to your tummy). P = Posterior (baby's back against your back).

So ROA and LOA mean that baby is anterior and either to the right (ROA) or left (LOA) of your uterus. These are great birthing positions.

ROP and LOP are posterior (with baby to the right (ROP) or left (LOP) of the uterus). LOP (posterior with baby to the left) is apparently the "worst" head down position. ROP (posterior with baby to the right) is not ideal but better than ROP as baby has better chance of turning to an anterior position prior to or during delivery.

Ceph (or Cephalic) simply refers to head down, bum up (as opposed to breach).

Posterior baby = potentially a longer more painful labour, with more risk of complications and intervention (esp if LOP). Of course, this is not true in all cases, but there is a higher risk of c/s in LOP births.

KiwiFruit - regarding exercises: You are doing the right things. Climbing stairs apparently helps too (and climbing stairs sideways has the best effect). Also, stepping up and down a little stool. Also, crawling on hands and knees, or rocking hips backwards and forwards while on hands and knees. When sitting on the Swiss ball/birthing ball, doing big circles with your hips (ensuring that your knees are lower than your hips). Avoid crossing your legs, avoid lying on your back, avoid any backwards angle with your back (eg slouching back in an arm chair or on the couch), avoid trips in cars with bucket seats (or place cushions on the seat so that you are angled with your shoulders either at right angles to your hips, or slightly forward of your hips). Try and sit very upright or (preferably) leaning forwards whenever you are sitting eg, sitting on a dining room chair facing the backrest (which you can lean on). Swimming on your tummy is very good. Or even just relaxing in the pool/bath with your tummy hanging down. For sleeping, we all know about sleeping on our sides. Even better for baby position is sleeping in the "rescue position" (top leg bent over and touching the bed, or on a cushion if more comfortable). So you are sleeping either with your belly button at right angles to the bed, or preferably facing down towards the bed. If you can manage to sleep on your tummy (with a nest of pillows around you so that your weight is on the pillows, not on your baby), then that is optimal. I am only bothering with the sleeping on my tummy thing (with slightly more weight on my right than my left hand side) now because I know that baby is already posterior. There are also yoga poses that are helpful. Generally any position where your tummy hangs down and forms a "hammock" for baby to lie in. Baby's back is heavier than its tummy, so it will natrually mould its back to your "hammock" tummy because of gravity. Oh, and if baby is already posterior, then try knees and chest to the floor (with bum up in the air) - sort of like on your hands and knees, but with your chest towards the floor and fairly close to the knees - this prevents the posterior baby from engaging too deeply and makes it easier to turn.

Oh, and one website I read swore that telling the baby to be good and lie with its back to mummy's tummy did really work in some cases too!

franch · 30/08/2005 12:26

Hi all, I hate to say it but we may be due another new thread soon

Feeling a bit miserable because I've had to miss the thread meet-up today DD isn't well and I've got an awful cough which, in addition to the twinges and little pains I keep getting, has been keeping me awake all night. Best not to risk passing anything on I think.

Not sure if these twinges are Braxton Hicks or what. Baby also feels like she's practically burrowing her way out - incredible feeling of pressure at times. Keep thinking something must be about to happen but have now had that thought too many times for it to mean anything!

Due a week today so starting to think about what I'll do if I go overdue. Going to start a thread asking for complementary therapy recommendations to avoid induction - will make an appointment with a reflexologist or whatever pretty much as soon as I hit my due date I think. Found a good article about what to do if you're overdue by Janet Balaskas on the Active Birth site.

Had a lovely 6th wedding anniversary on Sunday - DD went to stay with my parents and DH and I went out for a slap-up meal. DH was determined the baby was going to arrive yesterday while he was off work and DD was safely out of the house - no such luck!

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franch · 30/08/2005 12:43

What am I saying? I'm not due a week today, I'm due a week yesterday

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franch · 30/08/2005 12:43

Actually yes this thread is definitely too long. Starting a new one now!

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andif · 30/08/2005 12:44

Hope everyone had a good weekend! Diane77 you must be in a turmoil of emotions - concentrate on the positives for recovery though!
Had a mad nesting day yesterday - scrubbed the fridge from top to bottom for the first time in years . Dh was convinced baby would come, but guess what, still here! c**p night's sleep last night - not hot, but crampy. Feel v tearful today as just cannot face another 2+ weeks of this.
Ds1 has tonsilitis, just to add to fun, so want him better before am up all night with baby.
According to a good friend, there is a full moon on Fri (haven't checked it out myself) which often brings on babies so maybe we'll have a spurt of births! Ds2 is 6 on Sat and will never forgive me and the baby if he has to share his birthday (and I miss his party!) so it needs to come soon, or not for another week or so!
What a lot of waffle. Sorry!!
Sympathies to those with sick relatives and funerals to miss - I know from experience how hard it is not to rush across the country to bedsides etc as had the same thing with my Grandma.

mummyhill · 30/08/2005 12:45

Have to agree with you franch, since we are all off work we seem to be spending a lot of time here chatting.

That article was great will go in armed with all the information there if bub doesn't arrive on time!!