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June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

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CantSleepWontSleep · 21/01/2010 15:12

Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

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madamefreckle · 18/02/2010 21:06

Hi ladies,

Haven't been on for ages as just feel really miserable and naffed off with everything - things with dp have hit rock bottom too. I don't feel i can do or say anything right so basically take the view that aiming not to talk at all is the best policy.

We can't seem to stop arguing and he just won't wait til ds has gone to sleep to 'discuss' our issues which drives me even more potty. I come from a family in which disagreements rarely occured and parental ones were definitely hidden from the children which I think is right but dp clearly doesn't.
Feel doubly rubbish as many others of you have genuinely horrid concerns/situations.
I'll be back when I have something more positive to share.

georgee · 19/02/2010 09:26

Madutza welcome

Meggy I'm so sorry about your friend . I'm sure she will draw a lot of comfort and strength from your being there for her her in the next few days.

MadameFreckle - poor you, as if you don't have enough to cope with at the moment! Hoping for a breakthrough of some sort for you and your DP.

wheredidmyfeetgo · 19/02/2010 10:25

Morning All, I haven't posted for ages as work has been really busy.

GinaFB Good luck with your appointment today, hope it goes well.

Meggy I too am very sorry to hear about your friend. I hope you both find some comfort in spending some time with each other.

Madamefreckle Sorry to hear you and your DP are having a rough time. I went though a similar thing with DF a few weeks ago but we seem to be out the other side now. Please stick around and talk, that's what we're all here for.

Filly Glad your scan went well too.

Welcome all the new comers and congrats on all the scans.

Apart from being busy with work I have well and truly decended into the pregnancy fog!
Low down of past 2 days

  1. Forgot 2 meetings that were in my diary- people had to come and find me.
  2. Left my handbag on the bus on the way home.
  3. Got up next morning, fell into the boys toys (not soft ones) bump first, which has resulted in some pretty bad bruises (bump is fine though)
  4. Nearly 24 hours later after catching bus home I eventually realise I have lost my handbag
  5. stubb my toe and rip off my toenail!

I think I should hibernate for the next 18 weeks!

AlwaysHopeful · 19/02/2010 13:39

wheredidmyfeetgo - that sums up where I'm at too. I haven't had anything so bad as the toenail, though!

for Meggy. I'm one step removed from a similar situation at the moment (close friend of SIL) and it's just awful in itself, but being pregnant does create very wierd emotions on top. I had to go to a funeral a couple of weeks back and bawled the whole way through for all the people I've lost who won't know my new baby. Worse still is the thought that it could happen to me and leave DCs and DH alone together without me. Morbid, I know, but it does trouble me...

for Madamefreckle too. Better to vent to us than to bottle everything up, though. If you have people in RL to vent at, that's OK. Hope your pregnancy is OK, though - you don't say if you and bump are well?

My pregnancy is galloping on and my tummy's enormous! Can't believe there are 14 and a bit weeks of pregnancy left - my skin can't stretch that far! But only 9 weeks left at work! Hurrah! Still, loads to do, so best get back to it! Anyone got exciting plans for the weekend?

mampam · 19/02/2010 14:17

Madamefreckle . Hope you manage to get things sorted with DP and they settle down soon. That's the last thing you need at the moment.

wheredidmyfeetgo Not experienced the pregnancy fog myself and I hope I don't get it. Seems awful!!

Alwayshopeful I sometimes have the same morbid thoughts. Can't help it, too much time on my hands.

Collected DC's from their dad's house this morn and went straight to MW appointment. We were early and waited in the car for 20 minutes. Walked to the door and the whole place was locked up. There was a note on the door saying that all the appointments had been cancelled.
When on earth I'll get to see her I don't know. I need to get my maternity leave sorted.

Had Physio appointment too this morning which went well. Had some acupuncture which I don't think has done anything initially but she did say it might take a couple of sessions before I feel the full effect. Got another appointment next week. However I have now got crutches and am still not allowed to do anything even with the crutches . When I said I just wanted to go and buy some baby bits the Physio said "no way, do your shopping online" so I'm still basically housebound.

DH has suggested I start making wine to pass the time. Think I might have a go. DH has done it in the past and it's really easy to do. Of course he will have to do the heavy lifting but there's not much of that. It'll just be a shame that I won't be able to drink it for a few months but at least we'll have a good stock I'm thinking in 3 months I can make a fair bit of the stuff .

LittleRobbo · 19/02/2010 18:17

madamefreckle please dont keep away because you are having a rough time,let us try and help,or just come on and have a rant?

justbeme · 19/02/2010 23:23

Wow you lot have been so chatty - I havent been on for a few days.
Had some very sad news to deal with.
My poor sister took her own life last saturday. I'm devastated.....
But also abit worried that all this grieving could harm the baby?
Does anyone know?

greensnail · 20/02/2010 02:26

Oh justbeme what terrible news So, so sorry to hear about it. Please try not to worry too much about how this is affecting your baby, our bodies are amazing and generally just carry on with doing the right thing for the pregnancy in spite of everything else that is going on. I'm sure I can remember reading somewhere that a pregnant woman's body doesn't react to stress in the same was as normal, which is thought to be a protective mechanism for the baby. Obviously do your best to look after yourself amid your grief, but you need to allow yourself to grieve for your sister too. We'll all be thinking of you and your family xx

gizmo · 20/02/2010 08:06

Justbeme How terrible. Please don't worry about your pregnancy, I'm sure it will be fine, but you must be absolutely shattered. Are you close to your family geographically? Able to see each other?

mampam · 20/02/2010 09:03

justbeme I'm so very sorry. Don't think there is anything else I can say except take care of yourself xxx

gizmo how was your appointment?

LittleRobbo · 20/02/2010 09:43

justbeme how awful for all of you,i'm so sorry.

LaTrucha · 20/02/2010 12:16

Justbeme - I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. Please don't worry about the effects of the stress. I looked up on ehere discussions of the effects of cortisol (increased by stress) during pregnancy on here. I honestly can't remember the details, but I was reassured by what I read.

gizmo · 20/02/2010 17:34

Oh dear, this thread does seem to go through sad times, doesn't it? Meggy that's an awful thing to have to deal with - life is incredibly unfair with no rhyme or reason, sometimes. It's a very hard thing to try to adjust to your own grieving and give support to the person who is dying...difficult to know how to balance the two sets of needs sometimes.

Madamefreckle please don't think that there is some sort of hierarchy of bad news...generally I find nothing in the world is less helpful than the thought there is always someone worse off than you. Sounds like you are having a shite old time, and for what it's worth, I'd much rather think about your situation and try to find something helpful to say than burble on about my situation, which is something I spend far too much mental energy on, anyway.

But having said that...thanks for thinking about me, everyone. I'm back on a fairly even keel after yesterday's conversation with the consultant. I'm certainly going up in the world: yesterday I had the consultant, his trainee doctor sidekick and a midwife and I note with amusement that for my next scan I get a Professor! No doubt flanked by several adoring acolytes. The general intention of the session was to have a good scan of the baby's brain and to reassure me, I think.

Headline news, tickertape stylee....I have what appears to be a primary CMV infection....consultant reckons 80% of women who he sees with this condition have perfectly healthy babies...of the 20% remaining the most common outcome is hearing loss (something I am really not that bothered about)....perhaps 2% of these women have babies with very serious brain and nervous system defects, which are generally picked up by regular scanning throughout the rest of the pregnancy.

I think I surprised him by refusing an amnio and PCR which would definitely confirm whether the baby has picked up the infection. But there's really no point - I wouldn't terminate if the baby had the infection and there's no therapeutic intervention to give if it does. The only reason to do it is to give me peace of mind and I'm not prepared to risk the miscarriage rate just for that. So I'm now on two weekly scans for the rest of the pregnancy and we'll just have to wait and see.

For now, then, I'm going to stick with being mindlessly optimistic and assuming it's all going to be fine, mostly because I'm waaaay too lazy to embrace the stressful, tiring alternative of worrying about it for 4 months .

On the plus side, this week I think we have sorted out the nanny situation for my maternity leave. Which reminds me can'tsleep I saw your note about 'self-employment' for some support after the baby arrives. As far as I know the IR come down pretty hard on on nannies who try this sort of arrangement, but for a doula or maternity nurse on a short term contract you might find things are different.

CantSleepWontSleep · 20/02/2010 19:36

justbeme - not sure if you saw the message I posted to you lower down the thread, so I'll repeat it here.
justbeme - on a similar vein, I was very sorry to read your fb status yesterday. I have another friend who had the same experience last year, and she is still trying to come to terms with it. If you would find it helpful to be in touch with her then do please let me know. She is an MNer (local to me so I've met her a few times), but I don't think that she's posted about it on board.

gizmo - your appointment yesterday sounds very encouraging .
It would be a teacher just nannying for one month, so I don't think there'd be any problem with self-employment, but we'll discuss all the options with her and check things out where necessary.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. We've had a busy day today at a local farm village, but it's worn the kids out well enough that they've both gone to bed now, and all the walking that I did has helped to lower my blood sugar more than usual, so all good .

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justbeme · 20/02/2010 21:25

Thanks CSWS. I might come back to you on that one.
Which farm did you go to?
and when are the Herts lot meeting up?

CantSleepWontSleep · 20/02/2010 21:55

Meet up is this Tues . Have you booked a table georgee?

We went to willows farm in St Albans/London Colney. It's a great day out, although I do think quite expensive (both entry and food).

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greensnail · 21/02/2010 11:06

Morning all. I'm really looking forward to tuesday, will be nice to have an evening out and to meet some of you in person. Am going to drop DD at my parents then hopefully will have a lovely afternoon to myself before the meal. Not sure whether to get my hair cut, go swimming or go shopping but sure i'll find some way of occupying myself.

Just hope I feel a bit better than I do at the moment. I have hardly slept at all the last 3 nights, have had terrible back ache and last night had a high temperature as well. This morning I just feel a bit grotty and am having some tummy pains. Think I'm just a bit run down and suffering from lack of sleep, but starting to wonder if I might have a UTI so will go to the docs tomorrow if feeling no better.

We had a bit of a bombshell dropped on us on friday, as DH was told out of the blue that his job is being moved to Exeter. After the initial shock, we're actually quite excited about making a fresh start in Devon and think it will be a lovely place to bring up our children. A bit nervous about finding a new job for me and making new friends though. We won't have to move until after the baby is born so we'll be taking our house off the market for the time being and start again in the summer, which is a bit annoying as we've just started to get some interest in our place finally!

Anyway, sorry for a very me-centred post but its all I have brain room for at the moment! Am thinking of all of you who are going through a hard time though.

CantSleepWontSleep · 21/02/2010 11:19

Oh greensnail Exeter is lovely! I went to uni there, and didn't want to move away at all, but graduate positions were hard to find in the area at the time. I think the last time I went back was for my hen weekend, which was over 9 years ago now .

I'm afraid that my hair will look a mess on Tues, as it needs cutting but there's no way it will get done before then, so please don't all look glamourous!

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greensnail · 21/02/2010 11:28

Not much chance of that, but my hair desperately needs cutting as its been months!

MrsAlwaysRight · 21/02/2010 12:49

Greensnail am v jealous would love to live down there!

MonkeyMargot · 21/02/2010 14:04

justbeme so sorry for the loss of your sister. What an absolutely awful thing for you and your family to go through. How to make sense of something like this?
Lots of sadness on this thread at present. But also happiness - how exciting greensnail for your move to Exeter!
And am jealous of the Herts meetup CSWS. When are we having a London get together?!! I can't remember who volunteered to organise. Was it Filly? gizmo I applaud your thoroughly positive outlook combined with your sense of humour.

all good in the Monkey house. Met my best girlfriends from Uni yesterday for brunch on the Southbank - it was such a lovely cold, crisp and sunny day and all the DC's had great fun together.
Today it's p*ssing down but that's the beauty of the UK climate...

Just cooking an enormous quantity of beef bourgignon to freeze in portions whilst DD has nap. Am feeling quite virtuous and Nigella like (not in looks sadly) and am now going to make a crumble. Toodle pip!!!

mampam · 21/02/2010 14:17

Oooooh greensnail, Exeter. It is a lovely place but I may be a little biased .
It's not a place I visit often (usually drive through to get out of Devon) because we live further south and Exeter is about an hours drive away, on a good day.

My friend used to live and work in Exeter and I had a few nights out with her there. It's such a lovely atmosphere, friendly and felt safe.

greensnail · 21/02/2010 15:17

Pleased to hear good things about Exeter, I've never actually been there, although had lots of childhood holidays in Devon so know the surrounding areas a little bit. DH has been there for work several times, but has only really seen offices and hotel rooms!
We were hoping for a little holiday next month anyway, so will have a little trip to see where we would like to live etc. Very exciting

Mampam I was thinking about you being stuck having to do your baby shopping online and wondered if there is anywhere near you with a shopmobility scheme that you could use. They allow you to borrow wheelchairs or mobility scooters for you to do your shopping. Not sure if this would be any use to you or not, but maybe worth looking at.

gizmo · 21/02/2010 18:25

Oh, Greensnail, Exeter. Just to second everyone's comments, it is a very nice city and if your family is at all outdoor-sy then there's so much to do on your doorstep. Where are you at the moment?

Mampam I hope your accupuncture starts to have some effect soon - monkeyM's idea about shopmobility sounds like a terrific idea if there's a scheme somewhere near you. I'm sure somewhere like Cribbs Causeway would do it, although tbh, personally I'd rather shop online than set foot there!

MonkeyM, you're very kind. In all honesty I really don't have much time to get stressed right now; up until Thursday I was meant to be spending next week in the States. I know what you mean about the weather right now, it was snowing when we woke up but a beautiful, washed blue afternoon by teatime. I'm loving it - feels like a proper winter after several years of wierdy weather.

mampam · 21/02/2010 19:00

gizmo and greensnail unfortunately there is no shop mobility near me. greensnail when you move to Devon you will find out just how behind we are compared to the rest of the country, Exeter won't be so bad but compared to other cities I think you notice the difference.
I live in very rural Devon on the coast. Just to give you an idea we have to travel for about 40-60 minutes to get to an 'A' road which is the A38 Devon expressway from Exeter through to Cornwall. It's about 40 minutes to the get to a proper sized supermarket too. It's all narrow roads and back lanes around here. Very ooooh arrr ooooh arrr literally!! Tractors an' all!!

I may be able to cheat the rules a little as I have got to travel to Torquay in March for my Sphincter scan (nice) and across from the hospital is a retail park with M&S, Sainsbury's, Next, Mothercare World and Boots. Seeing as I'll already be there I'm sure I can get DH to park right outside each shop and hobble in on my crutches to pick up some bits and bobs for the baby .

Unfortunately with Cribbs Causeway being Bristol (2 and a half hours away) I would never be able to sit in the car that long, I'd be in total agony.

May look into shop mobility in Plymouth as that is our usual place to shop.

Acupuncture not really had an effect on the pain yet but I'm crossing my fingers as Physio did say it may take a few sessions (got another appointment on Wednesday) but she did say it may make me sleepy.....I slept so well on Friday night. I still woke up to turn over as it's very painful but drifted nicely off back to sleep everytime. Bliss.

greensnail there are some beautiful villages and towns on the very outskirts of Exeter. Would love to move up that way myself as Exeter is not so far from everything as we are down here. But I can't compklain as I know I live in one of the most beautiful and desirable places in the country, 2 minutes from the beach etc etc.

Sorry for the waffling post. Hope everyone is ok? MonkyMargot sounds like you are nesting already with all that Nigella-esque cooking .

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