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June-ior middleweights - fighting on through the second trimester (Due June 2010)

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CantSleepWontSleep · 21/01/2010 15:12

Here we go ladies - I'll C&P the stats in a tick. Don't forget to add the gender on if you find out at your scan

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goodname · 03/02/2010 15:54

Hi all, not posted anything for about 2 1/2 weeks as I went away skiing (although did no actual skiing sadly) for a week and then just could not find time to catch up with all the messages when I got back. Been trawling through slowly for last week whenever I get a spare minute.
gibberinginger was very excited to see you are in Fife. I am in Cupar. Do you live at this end of fife and if so are you going to Ninewells or Forth Park? I am going to Ninewells. Was feeling a bit left out as almost everyone seems to be in England (or America I guess).
Can I just ask a sleeping bag question. Do their arms not get cold as they are not covered at all? Also, slightly connected, what blankets do you use for swaddling at the begining, do you need special swaddling blankets?
After initial shock, I am now very excited to be having a boy. Already imaging the lovely peace I will get when husband is out playng football with him and glad I do not have to paint anything / buy anything pink. Been buying lots of stuff so far for him, mostly from ebay or in monsoon sale so really hope they got it right. Am very happy about all the cute things you can buy for a boy.
Must agree with others comments about work suffering but think its more to do with being baby obsessed than anything else. Feel like I have so much to buy, so much to organise, so much to learn before he comes and i really do want to be well prepared. This means I spend most of my work time, when I can, on the internet looking at baby websites.
Will stop now as this is very long message.

greensnail · 03/02/2010 15:58

I was just discussing the pregnancy "fog" with DH. I'd been thinking I didn't have it as bad this time as last pregnancy, but have now come to the conclusion that it just never went away last time and so I'm used to it . It really used to upset me in my first pregnancy though, as I was so used to being on the ball and able to work things out and on top of things at work. Feeling a bit depressed now that I've got used to being a bit slow! I wonder if it will ever improve or if i'm destined to spend the rest of my life feeling

greensnail · 03/02/2010 16:10

goodname I worked at Ninewells for a while when i lived up that way. Not in maternity so no experience of that, but generally I think its a nice hospital!

DD's arms don't get cold in her sleeping bag, and I doubt she'd keep them under the covers anyway if she had blankets on. She does sometimes wake up with very cold hands, but it doesn't bother her at all, and I think that's quite normal as babies circulation aren't always that great.

You can use a normal blanket or sheet for swaddling, but I was a bit rubbish at it so had this swaddling wrap which I found made it much easier. Its basically a cotton blanket that's shaped to help you swaddle the baby. I lent mine to SIL so if they don't make their way back to me I'm planning to buy miracle blanket for swaddling this time, as I've heard great things about them.

LaTrucha · 03/02/2010 17:50

With dd I used a normal blanket - she was a winter baby. A natural fibre is recommended for breatheability.

DC2 is going to be a summer baby - obviously - so have bought a cotton swaddle. It's the Mothercare one, but I think it's likethe miracle blanket. Neither have velcro or poppers which can disturb wee one.

DId anyone have the mothercare one the first time round? I got mine on ebay, and it didn't have the instructions. It's got a couple of flappy bits on the inside. Anyone know what they're for?

DD doesn't seem to get cold arms, but she's a skinny one so I do dress her more warmly than they suggest. She was cold without the extra.

LaTrucha · 03/02/2010 17:51

Ah! I think the video on the website you linked to helps. I'm not sure DD would have liked that. She did like to get her hands out and twiddle her thumbs!

CantSleepWontSleep · 03/02/2010 18:21

Hmm, that's a lot of layers going over that baby in the video greensnail. Great for winter, but terribly hot if we have another hot summer. I had something similar but not as 'wrappy' from the NCT, but dd could already struggle straight out of it when we started using it at 6 weeks, and ds could get out of it by 2 weeks! Will wait and make an emergency purchase if this baby seems to need it and it's a cool summer (although we have aircon upstairs so I suppose the temp isn't such a problem for us).

You can get sleeping bags with arms if you are really concerned about them getting cold mampam.

Typically I sold most of my 0-6 month grobags on ebay for next to nothing just before discovering that I was pregnant again!

Hope your holiday was good goodname.
Since you mentioned finding good boys clothes, may I recommend a fab website for bright clothes, as I find that most boys' stuff in the shops is in very muted and limited colours. If anyone wants to order from them then just let me know your email address (the one that you would order using) and I can recommend you to them, which means that you'll get sent a code to get 10% off. You can get me on CantSleepWontSleep at gmail dot com if you don't want to put your email addy on here.
It's great for bright girls' clothes too, but appreciate that those tend to be a bit easier to find anyway.

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greensnail · 03/02/2010 19:49

Yes, that's a good point CSWS. I suppose you could have the baby dressed in just a nappy under the swaddle but still would be quite warm if we have a hot summer. I liked the way it looks like the arms are really secure in it though - looks good for feeding when they're crazily batting their arms around and pushing themselves off the boob! I remember the midwife showing me a great way to wrap up the arms to stop this without swaddling the whole body, but forgot how to do it when i got home.

LaTrucha the mothercare one i was looking at in the shop on monday said miracle blanket on it, so I think they're the same thing.

LaTrucha · 03/02/2010 20:48

Thanks greensnail.

We were fine just with a flannelette sheet, TBH. I suppose LO either likes to be swaddled - and so will stay put in pretty much whatever - or they don't and anything will drive them nuts. I never thought of swaddling until they did it in the hospital. DD just loved it.

gaelicsheep · 03/02/2010 21:32

I see I have a thread in discussion of the day for the first time ever - but what a topic!

Gina - that happens to me as well. It's definitely the baby getting into different positions.

CantSleepWontSleep · 03/02/2010 21:44

Fuck me gaelicsheep - you'd better go and wash out your dirty fucking mouth now!

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wheredidmyfeetgo · 03/02/2010 21:49

Evening all,

Haven't been on for a couple of days. DS1's birthday went well on Sunday and the train cake was a real hit.
Have swap working times with DF so he goes in early now and gets home for 5.30 to let the Nanny go. Even though I have to work later it's better for me not having to rush to get up in the morning. I wouldn't say I'm in a fog but I am finding it hard to be as effective at work. I won't be very effective for the next week though as yesterday my Dr signed me off for a week. I have been having headaches and Nosebleeds for the past week. ALso had swollen hands and feet. Dr checked BP and urine- that was all fine. Listened to the bump and it was fine too and I have felt movements so I' not too worried.
Can't remember who commented but I'm really worried in this pregnancy. It's no 3 for me and can't help but feel I'm pushing my luck trying for a 3rd healthy baby. We have our 20 week scan on the 20th and it can't come soon enough. If all is ok I will cry my eyes out through relief.

gizmo · 03/02/2010 22:15

Is that your swearing toddler, then, Gaelicsheep? I haven't had time to check out mumsnet at all since Monday (was in work until 10.40 last night) so I've not caught up with all the fun threads. I wouldn't be much help, anyway: I regard suitably advanced swearing as a rather awe-inspiring superpower - The Thick Of It is one of my favourite programme - so I tend to give out rather mixed messages to my children when managing that habit.

Pregnancy fog abounds here, too, Greensnail. Although I have found that if I just load my brain up with absolutely tons of stuff, then I succeed on about the same number of tasks as I did before the fog descended. I just have to live with the stress of forgetting a lot more of them, too!

Scan yesterday revealed one for the pink team, which will be interesting, after two boys. I have a feeling she's going to a) be rather spoilt and b) need a strong character to survive. Basically, she'll probably be a monster by the time she's 13 . The scan also revealed a small section of 'echogenic' or 'bright' bowel which can be a marker for a number of complications, most notably cystic fibrosis and Down's syndrome. Remarkably, I am feeling perfectly tranquil about this, probably because there is no history at all of CF in either family and it can be confirmed/eliminated with a simple blood test, and I have had every test going for Downs and feel I have a pretty good handle on what my risk factors are - very low. So, despite the fact that post scan they put me and DH in the 'Room of Doom' where you are sent to recover from bad scan news (I'm an old hand in there, after two miscarriages) I'm not going to worry until I get good cause to. If only I'd been able to apply this attitude the first 19 weeks of pregnancy I would have had a much more relaxing time!

GibberingGinger · 03/02/2010 22:15

Hey goodname believe it or not I am also in Cupar and going to Ninewells. It's a small world.

I'm another one with nosebleeds. I suffered a lot with them when I was a teenager,and then got a lot of them with my last pregnancy. Unfortunately they seem to be back this time too. However in my case they seem to be nothing to worry about.

gaelicsheep I reckon I'll be in the same position as you in a few months time. DD seems to pick up words randomly. Some words she refuses to say, others she hears once and endlessly repeats.

wheredidmyfeetgo · 03/02/2010 22:45

Gizmo, congrats on having one for the pink team. And wow I'm amazed by how level headed you are being. But like you said no need to panic until you get good cause too.

Gaelicsheep I read that post in a haze the other day and didn't realise it was you My DF is very careful around DS1 who's just turned 3. I too am careful, but I do say the odd word that DF wouldn't- like bloody sometimes

Saw a post the other night, is someones in this group also planning a homebirth? I am this time round and am feeling rather excited about it.

dinosaurinmybelly · 03/02/2010 23:09

Gizmo you are just like me - I already have 2 boys and am now expecting a girl. I agree it'll be an interesting dynamic for her, especially considering how my 2 boys interact. Lots of wrestling and arguing, but so much love for each other it just melts your heart.

I am definately wandering around in a fog more this time and find it hard to get motivated to get things done. We have found a new flat to rent and will move in 6 weeks time. I'm quite happy that I'll get a chance to have a good old spring clean and then a nest over the next 2 months. I tend to feel happiest when I am organised, so this is a great opportunity.

Hoping to make a trip back to the UK around Easter, but due to DH work commitments, it will have to be between week 31 and 33 of this pregnancy. I am feeling quite well, but am a bit hesitant to commit to this. I really really want to see family & friends (it has now been a year since I was last back), but I don't want to put undue stress on myself or the little one.

I would love love love a homebirth wheredidmyfeetgo but it is practically impossible here in the US.

justbeme · 03/02/2010 23:27

Hi - I am hoping for a homebirth - but it depends on whether the pesky fibroid gets in the way of the birth canal, as its very close. I was ok last time round, but Im not sure whether it's abit bigger this time as it has grown from the 12 - 20 week scan. I also found out that I can go 12 days over and still have a homebirth, so I'm happy as both DD's were 11 days over!.
I've also borrowed a friends Hypnobirthing book and cd's, so am hoping on using those techniques, although it seems abit complicated!! However, I like the "idea" of not pushing the baby out and going with your body and slow breathing! Is anyone else thinking of Hypnobirthing or have any expertise in it?

LittleRobbo · 04/02/2010 08:10

Morning ladies, justbeme i have fibroid(s) also,got another scan at 31 weeks to check growth,what advice have you been given about labour if it could potentially get in the way? No one has given me any advice as yet,but i would like to be prepared if need be.

I dont fancy a homebirth,i like the security of hospital incase anything goes wonky (fearless i am not) but i would love to know more about hypnobirthing,i'd also be interested in any views/experience in it.

Congratulations on joining the pink team gizmo and your attitude is inspiring.

Dyed my hair from blonde to brown yesterday and its gone grey/green instead

CantSleepWontSleep · 04/02/2010 09:21

Is that a blood test now gizmo, or after the birth? Am also impressed by how calm you sound. I know approx nothing about cf .

justbeme - you should have a fb request from me, so if you don't then please let me know as it means that I've requested a stranger!

I have a rl friend who did hypnobirthing. I have seen a pic of her at 8cm dilated, sitting and looking as serene as a serene thing from serenesville.

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NizzyNoodles · 04/02/2010 09:36

Morning all

justbeme - I'm hoping for a home birth again this time. I must get round to looking into hypnobirthing

gizmo - sounds like you've got exactly the right attitude

Got to go as DD2 is currently making a break for it up the stairs!!!

gizmo · 04/02/2010 10:00

LOL at 'serene thing from serenesville'! I used some hypnobirthing techniques and I can assure you at 8cm I was much more Amityville. Which is not to say I wouldn't recommend it: the ante-natal meditations and breathing exercises are very good for relaxation and instilling a sense of control in the last trimester, and I used the visualisations of what is happening quite a lot during labour.

However, just as hypnotism doesn't work on everyone, I think different people will experience different levels of pain relief using hypnobirthing, although to be fair I didn't give it the best chance to work, since I did spend the first two hours of labour shifting furniture and filling a pool.

If there are no complications, then I will be having this baby at home, wheredidmyfeetgo, justbeme but I am a bit of a 'wussy' homebirther and everything has to be just so: first sign of any problems and I shall hammering at the hospital's door.

As for my sudden burst of Positive Mental Attitude re the scan I have no idea where it came from and wish I could turn it on at will - it would have been handy during the first trimester and a half of this pregnancy, where just like everyone else, over-anxiety seems to have been my stalker. They can do the blood test either next week, when I'm going to see the Fetal Medecine people, or at my 24 weeks bloods. I'm not fussed either way, tbh - it's way too late for me to consider a termination for anything other than a fatal defect, which cystic fibrosis isn't, at least not in utero, so the results of the bloods would just be useful to avoid nasty shocks.

It helps that it was only a very tiny section of bowel that was echogenic - the sonographer said it's quite common for the brightness to disappear if you use a different machine, so I'm going to assume initially that it's a technical problem to do with the machines, unless I get a more serious result from a second scan.

fillybuster · 04/02/2010 10:59

It's amazingly hard to keep up with this thread ...I'm a fairly committed MN'er but I do have a job to hold down too....can you ladies slow down please?

I'm also in a fog, although there was something in yesterday's Times saying that it doesn't really exist. It may just be due to permanent exhaustion and constant pain from the sciatica though... I suddenly found myself in flood of tears in bed last night when I realised that after being brave all day the pain wasn't going to ease off once I was lying down Utterly pathetic But I could have done without trekking right across London to get to work today, carrying a really heavy laptop...am going to discuss this with HR and my boss later.

Gizmo, am amazed at your inner calm and amused that, having spent so much of the first 12 weeks panicking, you are now committed to the zen approach Fingers crossed all will be fine.

Wheredidmyfeetgo, I'm feeling exactly the same way...2 healthy dcs (one boy, one girl) and no misses along the way, feels like i'm really pushing my luck going for a 3rd. My scan is next Friday (12th) at just under 23 weeks and I'll be an awful lot less scared if everythings ok after that.

Sleeping bags & swaddling: DS was born in an August heatwave and we swaddled him in a plain cotton flat sheet, really tight, for the first 9 weeks. DD was born in January, we used a flanelettte flat sheet with a single cotton cellular blanket over, or a cellular blanket (on v cold nights) with another one over. Even though our 1930's house is flipping freezing, she was fine. Switched to sleeping bags at around 12 weeks, and then moved to duvets at 2 years...mainly to get them used to duvet before moving to a bed. I tuck DD under her duvet in the cot and she mostly stays under it all night and is getting the hang of pulling it over herself when she needs it.

Um...that 'non existent' fog has descended so I had better go and procrastinate at work instead of posting on here...

Any 'cures' for sciatica would be appreciated...had enough of feeling permanently sore now...

MrsDmamee · 04/02/2010 11:55

Morning ALL, have yet to read all and catch up. I seem to be absolutely exhausted all the time.
ive a GP appointment for next week @20 wks so i'll see whats going on. Other than the tiredness im still having days were everything i eat makes me feel queasy
im having a right moan arent I! forgive me.

But i am going out at the weekend, Dh is even treating me to a night in a hotel as he doesnt want me to have to walk too far with my aching pelvis

goodname · 04/02/2010 12:25

Fillybuster my mum gets sciatica very badly at times and she has tried so many ways of dealing with it, sadly most of them do not work. I have a friend who is a cranial osteopath though and she has had treatment from him which has helped. Unfortunatley all treatments take a bit of time to work. The GP can refer you to a specialist who will give you excerises, which actually do work I believe, if you pester him enough. Apart from that painkillers which we prob aren't allowed to take are the only other help .
Gibberingginger that is so weird you are in Cupar too, what are the chances? Figured you might be close by as thought being scientists you might work at St.A uni. Weird our wee boys could end up at nursery or whatever together.
Oh I bought loads of stuff from Laredoute website yesterday. They have a pretty good sale still on if anyones interested. Must try to get my buying under control though as theres always the possibility he could come out a girl I suppose! I do like the idea of having everything I need organised before the baby comes though as I know I wont have time to be going on the internet once he is born.

mampam · 04/02/2010 12:27

MrsD a night in a hotel sounds fantastic. Enjoy .

goodname · 04/02/2010 12:40

Greensnail thanks for recomendations, think the miracle blanket looks good. Agree Ninewells is very good hospital, was there 6 years for my chemo and they were excellent.

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