Becoming bulgy! June-oh what I mean? (June part 2)

[madamefreckle]

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second thread! Hope you are happy enough that I've gone ahead with this title! If not, I won't be mortally offended if you ditch it and start again!

Here is the list - hope it is more or less up-to-date. Apologies if you're missing, please add yourself on. Pogue - we don't have you on here. Scared - are you still around? Perhaps you've moved to the May thread. Let us know how you're doing.

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - RnB, 31, #3
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 33, #2
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - greensnail, 27, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #4
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
9th - Woofie, 33, #2
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - fillybuster 35, #3
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5
14th ? MrsAlwaysRight, 31 #2
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
17th - muchchocolate #2
18th - Horton 40 #2
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - GibberingGinger 33 #2
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
28th - CantSleepWontSleep (HappyAccident),
36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

Oh my goodness mumandlovingit blacking out sounds like a nightmare! Have they already checked that your blood pressure is not too low? (I would hope that this is an obvious one but thought I would ask just in case.) My mum passed out a few times with my brother due to low blood sugar and low blood pressure combined. I hope that it is not something more worrying.

filly: Your tale is very discouraging. My UN Expat-Brats are somewhat less bratty than some; they are home-educated and less materialistic because I simply will not tolerate it. I would also NEVER dream of driving an SUV. I likely won't fit in as I have every intention of trying to see the real Cambodia and to help in any way possible.

So sorry to hear about the unenthusiastic grandparents. Mine were pretty excited, esp my mum. PIL not quite so excited but they already have 3 boys and a baby girl from my SIL. Just said congrats and went back to watching dire Saturday night TV. Think they will be excited when its born tho.

Cadmum I did find the poverty quite disconcerting as well, so many beggars and amputees. We visited the School which had been used as a prison for the Khmer Rouge and is now a museum and it was genuinely one of the most disturbing places I have ever visited. Think its great your husband will be helping to sort that mess out. Its amazing talking to people of a similar age to us over there and seeing how everyone has been affected one way or another. Its such recent history its hard to believe. Think it will definitely be a good experience for your children.

On a positive note, the people we met were very friendly and the english is really good. Also there is an amazing childrens hospital in Siam Reap where doctors and nurses give time voluntarily and all treatment is free so some things are beginning to improve. Also its quite beautiful, Angkor Wat is amazing and the food was great

Sorry Cadmum, I didn't mean to be overly negative; dh and I were quite taken aback by the depth of feeling being in Cambodia aroused in us and this is what really sticks with me 6 years later.

To be honest, Goodname is absolutely right: it would be amazing to be part of helping the country get back on its feet, there are amazing people as well as scumbags and the country is beautfiful and well worth exploring now that things are a little calmer there. I loved travelling along the Mekong from the Delta right into Pnomh Penh and would have loved more time to explore 'upriver' past Siem Reap. But Tuel Sleng 21 (the school/prison) and the killing fields rang too close to the bone for someone who was brought up by holocaust surivors and statements like "never again".

I would struggle with the lack of fresh milk though, and the teabags are dire!

FWIW the expat brats we saw were all teenagers, and I'm sure were a minority - but the well-off, loud, flashy english speaking kids hanging out in semi-expensive restaurants in big gangs and being collected by their drivers was pretty hard to miss and very embarrassing to witness.

Filly I didn't think that you were overly negative. I know what you mean about the 'Never Again' feeling. I was nearly physically ill at the Jasenovac Concentration Camp on the Croatian/Bosnian border earlier this summer. It is very hard to believe what people are capable of doing to each other. History repeated itself only a few kms from that very camp during the early 1990's so it would seem that even in Europe, people have not learned a lesson.

Both dh and I have read extensively about the region but I suspect that books cannot do much to prepare us for the actual day to day life.

(I live surrounded in those very ex-pat teens here as well.. I will have to be vigilant with my older two as ds1 is nearly 13 and dd1 is a charmingly pre-pubescent 10.

Goodname I hope to find it a positive experience for all of us. At the end of the day, we only have one year so anything is bearable for that long.

Thanks to both of you for the first hand experiences.

Millymollymoo, ?, #4 - scanned
27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 - Scanned (next scan 13th January)
31/05 RnB, 31, #3 - scanned (next 20/01)
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 scanned (next scan 8 Jan)
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3 - scanned
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2 - sscanned
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2 - scanned
4th - madamefreckle, 33,#2 -scanned (nxt14/1)
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1 - scanned
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2 - scanned
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2 - scanned
9th - greensnail, 27, #2 - scanned
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11- woofie, 33, # 2 - scanned
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2 - scanned
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5 - scan 30th Nov
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3 - scanned
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 - scanned
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
17th - muchchocolate #2
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1 - scanned (next scan 8th Dec)
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5 scanned next 07/01
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
24th - GibberingGinger #2+3 - scanned
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 - scan 2nd Dec
28th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3 - scan 10th Dec
28th - diznom 32 #1
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

I have taken myself off the list, as sadly we discovered at my scan that I had had a missed miscarriage several weeks ago. Good luck to all of you and hope everything goes well in June.

Oh Horton, I am so sorry to hear your sad news - I hope the next few weeks are bearable and that you receive enough love and support from your friends and family to help you through, and wish you peace and happiness in the future x

Oh Horton I'm so sorry to hear this. Sending love to you and your family x

Horton.

I'm so sorry - I can only imagine how gutted you must be.

Please take care of yourself.

Oh I'm very sorry to hear that Horton. Have the hospital been supportive and explained your options to you? Fwiw I would recommend an ERPC rather than waiting for things to happen naturally (same thing happened to me years ago).

Very sorry to hear that we aren't the only ones with non-overjoyed grandparents, and utterly at your mil millymolly.
Forgot to mention that in-laws also announced that they are on holiday for my due date, so it's a good job that we have some good friends who I know will offer to help however they can.

Horton That's so sad, am very sorry for your loss.

I am sorry horton. Take care of yourself.

millymolly I am still in shock about your 'charming' MIL. It will help me to keep things in perspective...

She has one child and thinks everybody should only have one and DH would have paid off his mortgage and be living happily ever after if only he hadn't met me It also kills her that I don't work full time, I actually earn more than most people from home but she can't bear that I don't leave the house at 8am, so it doesn't count.
God I hate her lol

Sorry to hear your sad news Horton, hope your ok.

Had my scan today and the sonographer told me not to celebrate till my bloodwork came back.....a bit of an open statement?

Sorry for your loss Horton.

We've not had any strange reactions from the grandparents here - in fact they all took it very calmly as though they were expecting it!! I've obviously lost the ability to shock any of them. Apparently everyone has been expecting us to have a 3rd - they just thought we might wait a little bit longer.

I told work today with the expected reaction from my line manager (a bit shocked and not sure what to say) but it's nice not to worry about trying to cover up the beginning of my bump anymore.

Sorry for your loss Horton.

Horton that's so sad, I'm so sorry

I had my booking in appointment today, but they didn't do the heartbeat thingamy on the plus side, the midwife was lovely!!! Really lovely, and made me feel at ease.

I was only showing off on here a few days ago that I was fine with blood tests... wrong!! She said women in early pregnancy were hard to take blood from and mine was spurting like in a horror film, I went all faint and felt a bit silly afterwards!

I get to book my scan tomorrow! I'm 11.5 weeks now and itching to see what's in my belly. So nervous now though as I've told work and my Dad and SM. (SM can't have children, v sensitive subject) and she was luckily absolutely lovely about it! I'm so excited, it's starting to feel so real, I don't know what I'll do if there's nothing wriggling in there.

So much has happened on here in a couple of days - I can't keep up!! Hello to any new ladies though, and hello to the not so new as well. It's lovely reading all of your experiences - am shocked at some of the parent responses though!

My Dad just laughed today when I told him, in a nice way. I think he fell off his chair at work in shock!! Bless him

So sorry to hear your news Horton

Mumandlovingit sorry to hear you're feeling so unwell. Hope you get some answers on monday and start to feel a bit better soon. Can empathise with the itching, have they checked your liver function?

ladyemma when do you get your bloodwork back? Hopefully that's just what the sonographer says to everyone and she hasn't any reason to think there's a problem with it.

Oh and I told my male boss, he was very sweet and obviously looking for things to say to me, so said, I thought as much when you weren't drinking at the Christmas party and you are blooming

Cheeky git.

Horton take care of yourself. Thinking of you.

Horton - so sorry to hear your news. I hope you find all the support you need over the next few weeks and beyond.

So sorry to hear that some of you are still feeling unwell. My nausea has subsided, but I am tired and eating very badly because of it, so I need to pull myself together and have some discipline when it comes to biscuits & cakes.

gizmo and mumandlovingit I am also Mum to 2 young boys (and I love it). I didn't find out the gender with either of those pregnancies, but am seriously tempted this time. I don't know if I really want a girl as much as everyone keeps telling me that I must do, but I think logistically it is more important this time to prepare everyone, including DS1 & DS2 for what exactly is about to arrive. Will you find out the gender this time?

Sad to hear your news, Horton, be easy on yourself and best wishes for the future.

My parents' 'oh right - good for you' kind of reaction now seems positively effervescent compared to many! Can't believe that Millymolly! Disgraceful!

dinosaur... I don't think i'm going to find out this time, although more tempted than the first time. DP says he definitely doesn't want to know so i'm happy to wait and see. During my first pregnancy i was convinced all the way through it would be a girl (I think that's what i really wanted), but it turned out to be a boy and i felt absolutely zero disappointment, just instant acceptance. So really I don't mind and don't think knowing will make much difference to me (except for the clothes-sorting, loft-clearing kind of difference).

Very sorry for your loss horton

I'm totally outraged at your m-i-l millymollymoo - is she always so callous? I'm amazed you're on speaking terms. I feel really lucky in comparison - while my own family is totally dysfunctional, I couldn't ask for better parents-in-law. They moved up to York to be near us when we had ds, pick him up from pre-school twice a week, cook us dinner all the time, and m-i-l is already knitting baby hats! Sorry, don't mean to rub it in, but I'm v appreciative of dh's family, since mine are so "different" (to be diplomatic!)

Sorry, can't remember who posted about NCT, but am in total agreement about the over-emphasis on natural birth. I definitely felt like a failure after the long, medicalised labour that I had w ds, followed swiftly by a failure ever to really get the hang of breastfeeding (persevered to 4 months, but ds literally never stopped feeding, I was utterly shattered and when I finally relented and gave him a bottle he never looked back and went from 50th to 97th centile weight in 2 weeks, where he's remained ever since - in line with his height, I should add!) This definitely contributed to the PND I went through in the year after his birth. AM trying to be v positive this time round - I'd like to bf at least to 1 yr if I can, but will be trying v hard not to beat myself up if I can't. Bit of a personal post, but I really hope the first-timers can give themselves a break if things don't go totally to plan.

Sorry, that's turned into a right old ramble

Oh and I'm definitely going to find out the sex - I did last time and can't wait to know this time! I'm not patient by nature...

Horton I am really sorry to hear that xx

Ladyemmalou - what on earth did she mean by that?! Did you ask her to explain? Did you see a baby with a heartbeat on the scan?