Becoming bulgy! June-oh what I mean? (June part 2)

[madamefreckle]

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second thread! Hope you are happy enough that I've gone ahead with this title! If not, I won't be mortally offended if you ditch it and start again!

Here is the list - hope it is more or less up-to-date. Apologies if you're missing, please add yourself on. Pogue - we don't have you on here. Scared - are you still around? Perhaps you've moved to the May thread. Let us know how you're doing.

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - RnB, 31, #3
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 33, #2
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - greensnail, 27, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #4
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
9th - Woofie, 33, #2
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - fillybuster 35, #3
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5
14th ? MrsAlwaysRight, 31 #2
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
17th - muchchocolate #2
18th - Horton 40 #2
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - GibberingGinger 33 #2
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
28th - CantSleepWontSleep (HappyAccident),
36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

hortonso very sorry to read your news,wishing you a positive future,we will miss you on here.

milly your mil sounds lovely,NOT! I cant stand mine either, when we went round to tell her,her reaction was to look straight at dh and say'oh,well how many weeks is she?' i was stood next to her,aaaargh! Vile.

My opinion of nct classes is that they are full of smug marrieds,who look down there noses on any parents-to-be who may be a little unconventional. My sil is a prime example,she used to be lovely,until she was nct'd!

Sorry to hear your sad news Horton. Hope you are ok xx

LittleRobbo LOL at your SIL being NCT'd!!!!

Not sure if I want to find out the sex of this little nipper. I didn't with my previous two. I kind of like the surprise.

Arf, @ Mampan's surprise: I always think of someone producing a kitten, but then the inside of my head is a strange place sometimes.

I'm afraid that as President of the Honourable Society of Control Freaks (motto: 'No Stone Unhoovered') I shall be finding out the gender in February. DIMB are you getting a lot of 'I bet you want a girl' comments, then? I've had quite a few of those and genuinely, I'm not bothered. A girl would be...novel... but there are big age gaps between my children (3.5 yrs min) and I think it might be very easy for two bigger boys to exclude a little girl. So I'll be happy either way (provided it's not a kitten )

It's funny isn't it how people always ask you whether you are hoping for a girl and a boy. Surely these 'people' must realise that a boy, a girl, it doesn't really matter as long as they are born happy and healthy.

I have one of each already. I would like a girl because my DD was a great baby, slept through from 7 weeks, very rarely cried and was a happy little bunny whereas my DS was a nightmare baby, was hungry all the time (he was 10lb 14oz when born)and was still waking up 3 times in the night for milk when he was nearly a year old and was generally a nightmare toddler. On the other hand I would like a boy because DD (now 10) has turned into a little witch, hormones have started to kick in and she's stroppy and gives it some real attitude, it's like living with Kevin and Perry all roled into one. DS (now 6) has turned into a lovely boy, he has his moments but is easily reined in!

mampam I agree. This is my first, and my DP says he would really like a girl (and then a boy!) although happy whatever it is as he is so excited about being a dad. I really have no preference either way. But some people don't seem to understand that - I just want them to be healthy, and I can see good and bad points of both boys and girls!

Thought I wasn't suffering too badly with baby brain but just discovered I put on my pants inside out this morning....

Check your shoes, GinaFB. Do they match? If so, then you've nowt to worry about...pregheadedness will get much worse, trust me!

gizmo Shoes what shoes......

Gina I'm guilty of wearing my pants inside out too!

Well we have three girls so you can imagine everyone is desperate for me to have a boy, where as I (and DH) feel we know girls, have a girlie house in terms of decor and toys so another would suit us nicely.
Plus if it was a boy DH would have to get off his arse of a weekend and take it to the park, the girls potter around quite happily.
I might find out the sex but I'm not telling anyone

I'm searching for sympathy as I'm feeling very for myself today...I've had a tummy bug since Sunday that got really bad yesterday and last night. Today its back to manageable levels but I'm utterly knocked out due to lack of sleep/food etc (currently lying in bed typing - thank god for WFH!). Anyway, its my firms big xmas party tonight, and a really good friend's leaving do beforehand....and I'm going to have to miss it cos I really can't face travelling into central London on the tube feeling like this And I bought a fab new outfit to wear tonight

I'm fully aware that in the grand scheme of sad things on this thread, this doesn't even qualify for a mention but if you guys don't give me tea and sympathy then I won't get any from anyone else....

PS I will definitely be finding out what flavour flump/ette I'm having come Feb...I've got one of each and both are totally fab but I just want to know

It's nice to be able to dispense sympathy for a problem that is fixable Filly.

Here, have some flat coke. And put your fab outfit on and make your DH take you somewhere nice for a private pre christmas party

Filly I feel your pain, I really do. I had this bug last week. It's horrible xx

Well I just booked my scan. It's on Christmas Eve at 3pm, that's all they had left before Christmas. Am I mad?! What if there is nothing in my belly....

[scared face!]

What a good idea gizmo - yes fillybuster put your new outfit on, and go somewhere local instead. I agree, there is nothing worse than dragging yourself into central London on the tube if you are feeling poorly. You still have time to have a good sleep and wake up a bit more refreshed.. .. and I second the flat coke.

This time I can definately see the benefits of finding out the gender, but there is no way we'd be able to keep it to ourselves. My DH is so straight-up honest, he would just have to tell everyone if we found out. I'm wondering if (as I do the bulk of the preparations anyway, and could really use a pointer on what equipment we'll need), I could write the sonographer a secret note and hand it to her / him on the way in the door - just explaining that I want to know, but don't want DH to know that I know, and could they just write M or F at the bottom of this note and hand it back?
Do you think they've had strange requests like that before?

I'm sure that you could do that dimb, but I bet you will let it slip to your dh if you do.

We have one of each, and am intending not to find out the sex this time. We really don't mind which we get. My ds has been a much much easier baby than my dd (impossible to be harder really), but a boy is unlikely to ever get a name .

Sympathies filly. I'd get your dh to take you out in your new dress another night when you are feeling fully better instead. Or go out with girlfriends for an impromptu boogie somewhere!

readysetgo - that will be a fabulous Christmas present if all is well, and I think it's always best to assume that all will be well until proven otherwise .

gizmo forgot to say that yes alot of people are commenting that we are obviously trying for a girl when they hear that we are expecting a third. I think it is a valid assumption (even though it is not the case with us), but I am uncomfortable with the implication that we wouldn't be trying for another baby if we'd had a girl last time.

Both my sons have been difficult babies in the sense that neither napped very well in the daytime, or slept through the night in their first 12 months, but in some ways another boy would be very welcome as I feel I know their little ways now. If this is a girl, I'll feel like a new Mum all over again, which maybe would be a nice feeling too.

I didn't do NCT because they had no places in my area when I contacted them, but I've heard there is alot of pressure on natural labour and breastfeeding, without the additional information that an expectant or new mother should not feel any pressure whatsoever, as often things don't go to plan. I did get invited along to a coffee morning in my area and met a few Mums when DS1 was 5 weeks old, but we didn't stay in touch and that was our own fault. If I were to do it again, I would be resolute about getting other's details and keeping up even with an email contact, because it is important to have other ears in your local area when it comes to nurseries, schools, fun classes etc. You don't have to do NCT to do that - you can meet people at your hospital / midwife classes.

mampam I also had trouble breastfeeding both my boys as they fed constantly. I perservered for 5mths and 4mths respectively, but as soon as I gave them a bottle they (and I ) fared much better. This time I want to see a lactation consultant before the baby arrives and have a number I can call for tips as I found it can get quite complicated knowing the best times to pump to increase your supply etc etc...

I get this a lot having 2 boys - 'bet you're hoping for a girl!'

Er..no I'm hoping for a healthy baby! I genuinely don't care . Having a child with SN makes you realise there's more important things to worry about than the sex of your baby...

I had terrible trouble bf ds1, and ended up expressing for 6 weeks as we just couldn't get latched on.

Had no trouble at all with ds2, fed exclusively for 6 months and stopped at 18 months. I hope to do the same this time if possible...

Anyone else looked into hypnobirthing?

lol dimb - my ds wouldn't be put down at all, day or night, for the first 14 weeks, hasn't been a good daytime napper, and still doesn't sleep through at 14 months, and yet I still consider him my easy baby !

So sorry to hear your news Horton,

Filly hope you feel better soon, (the coke really does work) I had parties planned for the last two saturdays and ended up staying home the whole weekend cos of having a bug (different one each weekend). Its rubbish.

LadyEm Hope all goes well and you get those blood tests back really soon - maybe you just had a nasty grumpy old sonographer and it didn't mean anything. Hope so.

I definitely want to know what I am having, then I can narrow down my list of names and start buying things. I always want to know things straight away though, have no patience. Cant wait til February.

Not many positive comments on NCT so think I will give it a miss. Plenty of things to spend that money on anyway.

Hi All,

So sorry horton, awful awful.

Filly hope you're feeling better today and are necking the coke. We've all had something similar at home which on top of being horrid seems to have knocked ds's sleep out of kilter & turned him into a classic terrible 2! i don't know if it's the illness or just him for the next 12 months!

re nct, i did it & was obviously lucky enough to have a teacher who went through all the pain relief options and certainly wasn't overly biased to a natural birth. However i did have a natural birth & no-one else in my group did and they all said they felt like they hadn't really done it the nct way so perhaps i'm coming at it from a slightly different perspective. What i would say is that it didn't prepare me AT ALL for how i would feel after the birth - the teacher mentioned you might feel 'a bit down' on day 3 which was the understatement on the decade and in that respect i did feel like a total failure and that i couldn't really talk to any nct people about how i was feeling. I did meet some nice people & we're still in touch but we actually don't live all that close to one another so meeting regularly didn't really work out. I know people who made good friends from the postnatal groups their health visitors/gp's ran so might be a better option and free!!

Is anyone else swinging wildly between excitement of the new baby to fear of how it will be coping with it?

Hi everyone,

Not been on much recently as my sickness/tiredness had got a little worse. Today is the first day I haven't been sick though - so am feeling hopeful that it may be easing up!

Sorry to hear horton's news - hope you're getting lots of support and things go better for you in the future.

I had my scan today and was feeling so nervous about it but one healthy, sleepy little baby in there. I'm a week behind what I thought I was so only 11+3 now, I've updated myself on the list.

It feels so much more real now I've seen the baby move - huge relief!

Hope everyone is doing ok and hopefully the second trimester will be easier for us all!

Millymollymoo, ?, #4 - scanned
27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1 - Scanned (next scan 13th January)
31/05 RnB, 31, #3 - scanned (next 20/01)
31/05 dinosaurinmybelly (DIMB), 37, #3 scanned (next scan 8 Jan)
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
1st - PogueMahone, 35, #3 - scanned
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2 - sscanned
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
3rd - Jenba, ?, #3
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2 - scanned
4th - madamefreckle, 33,#2 -scanned (nxt14/1)
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1 - scanned
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #3
7th/11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2 - scanned
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
8th - MrsAlwaysRight 31, #2 - scanned
9th - greensnail, 27, #2 - scanned
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11- woofie, 33, # 2 - scanned
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2 - scanned
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5 - scan 30th Nov
14th - Fillybuster, 35, #3 - scanned
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
16th - NizzyNoodles, 35, #3 - scanned
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1 - scanned (next scan 8th Dec)
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5 scanned next 07/01
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
24th - GibberingGinger #2+3 - scanned
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
27th - Stac14, 30 #2 - scan 2nd Dec
27th - muchchocolate, #2 scanned
28th - CantSleepWontSleep, 36, no3 - scan 10th Dec
28th - diznom 32 #1
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

Does 11+3 really only make you due on 27th muchchocolate? I thought that I was 11 weeks today and due on 28th . Ah well, will see what they say at my scan tomorrow.

RnB I am a big proponent of hypno-birthing (or as my DH still calls it hippo-birthing)! I was worried about labour when I was expecting my first. I'd never had an overnight hospital stay and I am not great with needles, so I didn't think the whole scenario boded well for me, so I went on a 4 session course with DH. The course itself was full of lovely stuff, but really it was the book that I read alongside it that made a big difference with me. The enticing thing about hypno-birthing for alot of people is of course the idea of a pain-free labour. I didn't have that, but the affirmations helped me to stay relaxed and confident about labour, even excited about it (honestly!) when I had my first baby. It also emphasised the wonder of a woman's body at this time, and I think I was curious to see how my body would cope, so I didn't freeze up but embraced it, and I think that went a long way towards me having an entirely natural labour both times. With my second labour I thought if I concentrated more I could maybe have the pain-free experience they talk about on the course, but I was at the hospital and I was on a timer as to when they would intervene, so rather than lie on the bed in a relaxed state, I had to get up, stomp around, and will those contractions on, as I was so worried about the needles etc.

I am also positive that with my second, I was able to start the actual labour using the visualisation techniques they talk about in the book, and trust me I don't think I'm a real expert in the practice.

So for anyone who is interested, I recommend going to Amazon and getting yourself a cheap copy of Marie Mangan's Hypnobirthing book to read. It comes with a CD of affirmations which I really liked....

Thanks for the tea and sympathy ladies - I have spent the entire day in bed feeling dire (in between running to the loo!) and thank god my MIL was already booked to put the kids to bed tonight whilst I was at the xmas party.

Still feeling dire and very sorry for myself - and blardy irritated to miss the only work party of the year (at Ministry of Sound, no less!) even if I couldn't drink anyway.

DH will be working very very late again tonight (lots of big cases/deals closing this week) but I don't think this would have been the night for the outfit 'airing' even locally - and its not that sort of an outfit, IYSWIM Guess I'll have to wait for my disco birthday party on 20th december now...ah well, hopefully it will dazzle then

Night all...sorry for an entirely selfish post, I promise to do better tomorrow x