Due in June 16!! - the before we all graduate!!

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one new thread as requested!

hoepfully this will get those babies to start appearing again!!

Still nothing here!

have tried everything:
pineapple
raspberry leaf tea
Clary sage/Rose/Jasmine oils!!
SEX!!
White trousers

nothing!

well today might try everything all in one go!

Coop, they'll be going straight for the old crochet hook/water breaking as the cervix is already ripe. I can't say I'm wild about this notion but so be it.

Hi girls, gosh it's busy in here today!
Oh Coop, how bloody annoying is that. i feel for you. I think appointments are something to focus on, so v dissapointing. LOL re the sex bit!
Hi Uwila, saw you on the pn thread, sounds like you're doing really well with the bf.
Hi Trib, yes try and get rest today, take it easy. Good luck for tomorrow.
Hi Lippy, lol at your fridge list. i must admit that I have not been so vigalent on the foods I must not eat list this time. I ask myself what they do in Italy/France/Spain.
Like the list of possitives too, Coop, that's what we all need.
Sorry you've been so weepy Roseberry, I think the others are right, just the hormones talking, go with it.
Hi Mrs FP, got this image of you wedged between the loo and the door, best you don't go there!
Hi Charley, Miriam says that it's prostaglandin! But I'm begining to question her these days!

Well I had a very nice evening up the road with my best friend. Had a bbq again, and had 2 very weak g and ts, bad girl! They were bloody lovely, apparently gin is supposed to get you going, the juniper I think. Anyway, managed to sleep ok ish last night, but thought I felt a few pains, well, I have definately been having contractions today, every 15 mins or so, and what I think is a show! Hurray. Just hope that it keeps going. Don't think it was the gin, as apparently about a pint is about what it takes, but didn't fancy turning up to the labour ward pissed out my head!
Off to chill out in front of the fan and the tennis and watch ds chomping his way through punnet of strawberrys. Funny that, he wouldn't sleep today, either. Must be something in the air. Will catch up later XX

Franni - How exciting, another baby looks to be on the way!! Will keep my fingers crossed for a quick and relatively painless and certainly uncomplicated delivery for you. Keep us posted.
Trib - Good Luck. Hopefully you will be progressing by the time they get you in and they will leave you alone to go naturally. Thinking of you.
Our TV has been taken over by Wimbledon. Four hours each day for the next two weeks. It is a good job I like tennis or I would be swearing as we have no alternative channel and I feel a lot of sitting in front of the TV will be done while trying to establish b/f etc when my little bundle arrives. DD is exhausted now having missed her nap and been rather grumbly and not eaten her tea as I expected so I had better go for now and get her off to bed. Bye for now.

Bubb - I'm guessing/hoping you're doing the biz today!

MrsF! Painting the downstairs loo! You are putting me to shame!

Coop - love your positive thinking!

Lippy - whoops, I've been eating parmesan all through my pg! Forgot about that one. I was eyeing up the pates in Waitrose today - can't wait! I wonder how much we are allowed to drink whilst breastfeeding though. Really looking forward to icy lagers and g & ts...

Franni - How exciting! Are you around now? how's it going? Are your contractions hurting at all or is it just a tightening sensation, because I've been getting a few of them, but they're not painful at all. In fact I think they're probably just regular BHs actually

Trib - hope we have some news soon!

Uwila - Wow, I can't believe Alex is nearly 5 weeks already!

Evening gals

Gosh, what is it with toddlers and sleep today??? My dd is in bed, we've both had enough of each other She barely slept at lunchtime, that combined with the heat made her all grumpy by 630. Ah well, just one of those days.

Charley, most good parmy is un-pasteurised (as you probably know) which is why I've been avoiding it. But as you also know, I live with the food gestapo I wouldn't worry about it!

Hehe Mog, yes, I do thank god for this thread some times too, we do have a habit of getting right to the heart of the matter

Good luck Trib!! Shame about the pineapple and the curry, just continue to take it easy then.

Good luck Franni!! You're due after me aren't you?? Dammit

It wasn't so hot today, but I am quite frankly, shattered. Think it's something to do with dd's mood as well. Still, Corrie on tv and a ful tub of choccie ice cream in the freezer, so it's not all bad.

How you doing Coop?

Anyone else glad the tennis is on? My long-standing crush on Boris Becker is always resurrected at this time of year I love his banter with McEnroe! As is my more recently cultivated one for ummmmmmm can't remember his name lol American, lost in the final last year, him.

Andy Roddick, thank you.

Well I didn't get wedged between the loo and the door (although it was close and I did take the phone in with me just in case I had to summon help), but I am officially knackered and that is definitely my lot for DIY etc for this pregnancy. It was a real b*gger to do - just in case you're tempted, never paint anything orange, it will take forever to cover over. I blame Changing Rooms - when DH and I moved in here it was in full swing and we set about the house painting it lime green and orange, and then spent the next five years painting over it all again. The orange loo was the last vestige of it.

Franni and Trib, hope it all moves for you tonight!

I had one of those days with ds today, too. He has basically whinged all afternoon since I picked him up from nursery. I know he's hot and didn't get enough sleep and has hayfever and his best friend called him a poo head and and and, but I am so glad it's about to be bedtime! Have been v bad mummy and basically fed him ice lollies today - it was all he wanted and I thought, fair enough, me too actually. We had made some fruit puree ones yesterday so at least he got some fruit (did give him pasta for tea before anyone reports me).

Do you know, I had forgotten about Wimbledon. That's me set for tomorrow then.

Lippy - I'm still here. Don't really quite get the crush on Boris though ??? Enjoying a lazy evening with DH. Baby feels very low I have decided so I am thinking positively. DD took an age to get to sleep despite being on her last legs. Must be the heat.
Charley - I have eaten parmesan but it was def pasturised. Not long now till I can have a brie and bacon sandwich. MMMMMM. I have eaten mozzerella cheese the whole way through though . I must have missed that on the list too. Oh well. Too late now. All things in moderation.
I didn't drink at all when b/f dd but I have since found out that there is no real prob drinking in moderation while b/f. Apparently there are some threads somewhere. I will search when that is my concern rather than getting this baby out .
Right off to watch The Bill and then off to bed. Night night all.

Mrs F - Glad you got the bathroom done. lol about everything being orange and lime green. There was def something in the air with our lo's today then. Getting ready for the new arrivals .

I spent most of the day tidying, hoovering and bawling my eyes out. I hope everything goes soon for everyone! Described how I feel to my husband as being like a balloon ready to burst. You know it is going to pop and you want it to pop but you don't know when and you are slightly on edge because you are anticipating the fright of the pop but you are also trying to tell yourself you know it's going to pop so don't worry about it when it happens. Not that I am afraid of giving birth, I am looking forward to it and any pain will be over soon enough. I am more afraid of having to be induced if things go that long. It's just the looking at the big giant balloon filling with more and more air and wondering when, when, when, how much more can it take?

I also says to him, you know like when you have the worst pimple ever and no matter how you worry it, it just won't burst. But when it finally does burst, what a relief.

You see these are the kind of thoughts driving me mad today.

So good luck to everyone else, because it gives me hope when I see things moving with you all!!!

Aww, Roseberry, don't be so hard on yourself, just remember the hormones are to blame. You will be ok.

Lippy, I totally get the Boris thing, always have had it, but not sure why!
Mrs FP, how funny about the orange. At our last house our bedroom was pumpkin orange. We have since moved and we painted the kitchen carrot orange. WTF were we thinking about, gross! Have now changed it to tranquil heather. I think it's an age thing. My best friend from college actually admitted to liking pink the other day, well she was not a pink thing 16 years ago.
Contractions now coming thick and fast, varying between every 5 mins to every 9 mins at the moment. Charley, yes they do hurt, I had forgotten how much, but at the moment it is definately bearable. Finding stamping my feet and wriggle my bottom is actually helping. Nice image hey?! Am just about able to talk through them at the moment so figure they cannot be so bad.
DH is like a cat on a hot tin roof, bless, downing Becks alcohol free by the crate, in a vain hope that some of the 0.05% will get through! Bless.
I don't know why, and you can probably tell, but I feel really manic! Must be endorphines.
Must go and put toiletries in bag, will be back with more updates if I can.
Hope everyone has a comfortable night, XX

All the very best of luck Franniban!!! I am amazed you are still able to type.

Hope it all progresses smoothly, painlessly and quickly.

Good luck!

Well ladies.. it's a full moon tonight and my MW, said there's proven evidence that more little boys make an entrance into this world during this time of the month than any.....it's a shame that I have no impending signs that anything is about to happen. As it's the longest day of the year - the moon won't be out for that long either - damn shame!! Might resort to drinking bloody clary sage oil at this rate.

Lipstick Mum - I too have been eye-ing up the pate in Sainsbury's!! I can't wait to get my chops round some - washed down with a lager and lime! Oh and a massive bag of salted peanuts...

Mogwai - after days of trying it on with d/p when it finally came down to the "nitty gritty" I couldn't do it!! TMI!!! So I too am glad that I am not the only one who finds the whole thing totally repulsive!!

Cooperoo - I have resorted to not answering the phone during the day - only to find out that I had 6 messages left on the answering machine in an hour - people panicking that I wasn't in - and of course obviously in labour. Will take it off the hook tomorrow!!

Charleypops - cold bath intended to cool me down, and I was hoping that it would give the baby a bit of a shock and rush things up a bit...but he ain't budging!

Good luck Franniban - I imagine that I will be a complete stresshead when I get to your stage - how on earth can you type?

Anyway ladies will sign off for the night, good luck and bestest wishes to you all.

Hi All

Mog- I have some post natal additions
*still not getting enough sleep, when needed for feeding.

• And still spilling stuff all over clothes, due to huge boobs and un-cordination.

Coop hang in there all will be o.kay. I went into hospital on the due date and husband ate all the frozen food while I was in hospital, luckily kind friends have brought round some meals as i am feeling far to unwell/drugy/tired and/diorientated to cook!!!!

I tried natural induction too, yeah no luck it's frustrating but all the waiting and frustration will be forgotten soon i hope.

I haven't read all the post yet, i need to lie down now. I unfortuanely am suffering with horrible side effects of drugs- which is sooooo frustrating as i kept asking the dr's does medication cause- chest pain, constipation, make you feel unwell, numbness in the legs, sore throat, low pulse rate, etc, etc and they said no. Yesterday i got a print out of the side effects and low and behold all the side effects are listed. I hope to get off Clonidine on wed or may have to give up b/f cause it's one of the only two safe drugs for preg and breast feeding.

Anyway sorry to winge -We all have our dramas it seems. i really hope Trib that you don't get post eclampsia too, casue i felt o.k till after birth as well, but bp on medication -went to 160/105 after. I feel so lucky for pills really as without them, it would not be good.

Nighty night all
uki

Morning all. Still waiting hee hee. Had a great nights sleep though . So ready for anything.
Franni - How exciting! Hopefully you should have the baby by now or very soon. Very impressed with your updates. Manic feeling if def all the hormones etc kicking in. Adrenaline etc. Wow.
Uki - Sorry you are feeling so lousy on the drugs at the mo. What a nightmare. We will be living on take away for a while that is for sure. Is your DH off work? Ignore everything and sleep when Cooper sleeps. Get dh to make you a sandwich before he goes to work etc too so that it is ready in the fridge. How I didn't even have time to make lunch I will never fathom (or will soon rediscover ha ha) but DH made my lunch nearly every day....and cooked dinner......for about four months . Well maybe not quite that long. And that was without being on any drugs with side effects.
Roseberry - You balloon analogy was spot on. I really sympathise. You must be worn out with all your pre labour signs too. Hope you have a better day today.
Gweny - That is the prob with leaving the phone. People get the wrong idea and all excited and so I feel I have to call them back anyway and set them straight. I have been getting the feeling I shouldn't be going out at all so as not to get anyones hopes up lol. Stuff that though. I am bored enough as it is as I have nothing planned for these days as I was expecting a baby to keep me busy. DD would go stir crazy too.
Anyway I am determined that the baby is going to come today so that will be nice .
Have great days today ladies.

that's the spirit Coop - it will come out today! Who is the parent here anyway? Hope your appointment goes well for you today. I have one too (and when I booked it 2 weeks ago I was all 'I probably won't need this appointment, but' grrr) but I don't think I'll get a sweep or anything as they are leaving me to it.

Know what you mean about being bored because you thought you'd have a baby by now. I've been really filling my time the last few days as I went all out to get all the essential stuff done by 39 weeks in case they sent me in for a section then. But have decided now that I will take it really easy and do nothing for the time that's left.

Franni, hope you didn't make it through the night and aren't here to read this this morning, iyswim, but thinking of you!

Gwenynbee - not only the full moon but the solstice too, you'd think it would have some effect wouldn't you?

Charley, I'm with you on the guilty parmesan eating front too, never occurred to me tbh. Generally cannot stop thinking about food at the moment, particularly as indigestion is stopping me eating about 70% of what I really want. Good point about the margaritas, Lippy, will add them to the list!

Hope you're feeling better today Roseberry, it's horrid isn't it, the hormone/heat combo is really hard.

Shall we take no posts from Trib to mean the same as no reply on the home phone do you think?
Speaking of the phone, we only have my mum and MIL phoning up, and as MIL is on stand by she knows we'll ring straight away, so it's not too bad, certainly nothing like first time round. DH did an awful thing the other night, he rang MIL and got their answerphone. MIL has a habit of leaving messages on our answerphone that start 'Oh, you're not in. Oh. I wanted to talk to you.' etc. So he left one that just said 'Oh, your're not it. Oh. Don't really know what to do now.' and nothing else. So of course she thought we were on our way to hospital and rang back in a panic (poor woman was only in the garden). I am now concerned she won't believe us if/when we do ring up for real.

Good morning. The hormonal tidal wave has ebbed. I feel normal again. Well, normal for 40 weeks. Only a few twinges going on, nothing strong or to write home about, and certainly not regular. I am going to walk to the shops later this afternoon when my daughter is at school. She says the baby will be born Saturday. Why oh why so far away. At the stage where I am totally willing to trust a 4 year old's intuition, that's how sad I am. So I have decided to ask for a sweep again (see how the worm turns) at my next MW appointment, end of the week. Can I really go into July without having this baby??

And that is where my head is at this morning. I will be, by the way, stocking up on pineapple and hot sauce. Has anyone tried cumin tea? Is it just a different version of the castor oil remedy? Bleeurgh.

Morning all

Ominous silences.....looks like some of you are being put out of your misery.

I, on the other hand, am still miserable. And I could spend all evening on the phone to people who are checking up on me. It drives me mad.

No word from my mother since the sarcastic text message she sent on Friday evening. She has a week off work, it must be killing her, but I'm MUCH happier when she just leaves me alone and get very stressed out when she keeps bothering me.

Not so hot today, no excuse for ice-cream really...

I've been thinking about this sweep business.

I have an appointment at the hospital next tues, when I will be 40+5.

Anyone know what they will offer to do? Am I right in thinking that a sweep is where they stick their finger through your cervix and wiggle it about? You gotta be kidding, right?????

How can they do that if your cervix hasn't dilated?

Your Cervix has to be quite "favourable" for a sweep to be performed apparently. Basically they sweep the membranes (yes with a finger) from around the top of the cervix (i think). The theory is that it should get things moving!!.
I had one with DS1 (didnt do anything). It was just like an internal and not very uncomfotable.
There is a certain MW in our area - and her sweeps are "guarenteed" to get you into labour!!!! (think she is a bit heavy handed!!!)

Please baby, I'll light up the exit signs, I'll dangle a milky bar in your line of vision, just come out before some woman threatens to wiggle around my cervix

Hello all
Mrs F LOL at your DH's message to your MIL. That is so the sort of thing my DH would do for a laugh!
We had no phone calls last night as everyone was being very restrained, but they all rang this morning with very tenuous reasons for calling lol. People just can't help themselves. (I say they as there is my mum, then my dad, and my MIL. FIL is sailing the Med and so is relying on us to text him any news.)
Roseberry - Glad you are feeling slightly better today. I know what you mean about trusting your four year old. I am believing anyone who says something in a positive enough voice. Today I am making it me, this baby will start coming today!
Hi Tessie - I had a very heavy handed m/w hurt me with an internal with dd but I was having proper contractions five mins later....
Hi Mog - As Tessie says a sweep is as you describe. I would not want one done if my cervix was closed...and I don't think they would do one either.
I have just got back from my hospital appt. They were very lovely and mortified about me turning up yesterday with no one there. Very sympathetic which was nice. BP up a bit and saw the consultant to discuss induction. We decided that the m/w should examine me and if favourable do a sweep so that is what happened. I was so surprised as it didn't hurt at all although it was a bit uncomfortable. Certainly no worse than a smear, if not better actually. It was my fave midwife so I was more relaxed than usual and she told me exactly what she ws doing and that I could get her to stop at any time. Was 2-3cm dilated and 'soft' so this obviously helped too. Anyway I am booked in for induction tomorrow with my first pessary at 7am. Hopefully things will happen by themselves before then. Shocking as it is Thursday (+10 days) is not a good day as one of the consultants is on leave lol. I was given the option of Wed or Fri and chose tomorrow. My fave m/w is on tomorrow too (the one who did my sweep) and I trust her and it would be lovely if she was there to deliver me. So against all my initial judgements about waiting till 14 days and being anti-intervention I have agreed to be induced tomorrow! Eeek! I am happy with my decision though and just hope things start today by themselves. Anyway all for now. Take care.

Mog - You don't have to do anything you don't want. Bubb refused her sweep and it looks like things happened for her naturally after all. I can honestly say it was ALOT better than I was expecting it to be and I HATE that sort of thing. I am 41wks +1 so ask for another appt if you don't want it done at 40+5.