Due in June 16!! - the before we all graduate!!

[katzguk]

one new thread as requested!

hoepfully this will get those babies to start appearing again!!

Still nothing here!

have tried everything:
pineapple
raspberry leaf tea
Clary sage/Rose/Jasmine oils!!
SEX!!
White trousers

nothing!

well today might try everything all in one go!

mog-sounds like a good idea,but having trouble balancing myself on the ball,let alone anything else.
just think,in less than a weeks time i'll be at least a stone lighter-woohoo.
thats got to be something else to look forward to surely!!!!

very wise, bub

I mean, what can we do to change it? I'm trying to think only in terms of "the next half an hour". I'm quite terrified of pain.

My dh just called me from the REM gig and held his mobile phone up so I could listen. They are playing my favorite song .

But he did take me to see them in London back in February as I knew I didn't want to go tonight....can't complain. And my mother in law just phoned and sympathised about the problems I have with my mother, so I do feel a bit better

Bub, do you look very unglamorous on the ball?

My backside looks

you dont even want to go there.

i am sooooo hot that the only thing im wearing is a pair of knickers and thats not a pretty sight,i can tell you.

we've got all the windows open and 2 large fans on and it's still not making any difference.can't believe its going to get even hotter.

glad your'e feeling a bit better and that you've a nice MIL to confide in.

Well your bottom can't look as bad as mine, cos I wouldn't DARE sit on that ball in just my knickers. My dh loves me dearly but I'm not sure he's ready for that

Two fans and it's making no difference? Phew. I'm just going to go to sainbury's to get some fly spray . What do you get if your waters go in there? ASDA are apparently v. generous in supplying loads of nappies?

I hear very hot this weekend. Think I might stay indoors. I have bought a lolly-making kit. I had four this evening but it was only diet lemonade. The computer is now all sticky and so is the phone

your lolly making kit sounds great!

actually...i think i'll go and have a fruit pastille lolly right now and take this ball downstairs to bounce about on.

i heard mothercare is a good place for your waters to break-lots of free goodies aparently.

I have to make my own diet ones.

Last week I fancied a chocolate lolly, something like a Magnum. I bought a packet of three cadbury's ones. I ate them all in succession. I also hid the evidence. I haven't admitted this to anyone else.....you are my therapy!

It wasn't even hot

hi girls,
Thanks for support, feeling better now, and have fully discussed with dh and if things are still the same next week we are going to insist on cs.
Charley, thanks for the message, re writing about what happened last time. I ended up being induced 48 hours after my water broke, and ds heart beat kept dropping, rushed into theatre to have emergency cs and ended up with forceps delivery and 3rd degree tear. The consultant who delivered him thought he was still born. I can just see things going down the same path again, especially as this baby is back to back and not engaged. I was ok about things, but I think it all comes back to you at one point or another, espcially in the middle of the night when you can't sleep.
Re induction, I think that Kat and Lua have given good advise. Just don't expect things to happen too quickly.
Lua, did I read that they thought you had a prolapsed cord? And the baby's head wasnt; engaged?
Bub, lol at you on the old birthing ball in just your knickers. Sounds good to me, espcially with the fan going.
Mog, I do sympathise with you on the mother front, I have a good relationship with my mother, but pretty bad with my father. Charley, you are so right about the guilt thing. I cannot even go there with my father! His wife, the child bride, is expecting their second child mid July. (talk about steeling my thunder!!) Just about got my head round the fact that I have a half sister after 33 years! He does my head in!!!
Trib, really hope that your bp is ok.
Charley, hope that you go before Tuesday, but if not that the sweep works.
I really want mango sorbet, have eaten so many tubs of the stuff that I think Morrisons have run out! Damn, dh lounging in bed, so really can't turf him out, can I!?
Hope we all have a reasonably comfortable night, given the temperature xx
No word from Coop since lunch time, wander if anything's happened there?

Trib - Just to clarify... breaking the water per se is painless and a sweep can be ouchy! But... either procedure only last 1 minute. The labour afterwards is that make a difference.... Having contraction with an intact bag of waters is much less painfull.

Franni - Ds was not engaged until the last minute. Which was another reason I didn't want to break the waters, since that would carry the risk of a cord prolapse. It turned out that DS had the cord twice around his neck, so in reality there was no chance of prolapse and that;s why he wasn't engaging. Still, he was delivered normally in two pushes and passed the apgar test with flying colours!

But both of you need to think positively! Uusally they decide to show up right before the induction their own!

Morning all - Still here I am afraid,
Sorry to those of you who are having parent problems. I have a good relationship with mine but they are still hard work at the mo with the concerned phonecalls etc. People just don't believe that they will be told do they. Too worried about missing out on something.
Thanks also for the induction info. I haven't really thought about it before as dd arrived on her own accord. I know all the 'facts' about it but it is good to speak to some who have experienced it. I still have till Wed/Thurs though so fingers crossed will be OK.
Poor you Mog. Chocolate buttons wouldn't be enough for me either esp if my mum was behaving like yours.
Trib - Hope all goes well tomorrow if I don't get a chance to post again.
Charley - Everything seems to be going in the right direction for you too.
Franni - Glad you are feeling a little more settled about things. It helps to have made a decision doesn't it. Good Luck and hope you feel a little more settled now.
Bubb - Lol at you on your ball in your knickers. I have been regularly on mine in just my knickers and bra. Have to admit not a pretty sight AT ALL. The shutters have been shut on the bungalow and we spend a lot of time in the nuddie as it is just too hot .
Had a panic again about movements last night as I was trying to get to sleep. Could not get the baby to wake up and move either. Was horrid. Just felt sick even though I had had my 10+ movements yesterday. Eventually after 10 mins prodding and talking (poor bump) it woke up to reassure me.
I actually did the deed with DH this morning to see if we can get this baby out. Sorry if TMI for first thing in the morning. Nothing happening yet. Will be trying again though this evening . Charley there is hope for you. I didn't think I would ever manage it in this condition. .
DH is going to watch the rugby this am then we are off for a reccie run to the NEW clinic. How exciting. I spoke to one of the senior nurses last night and he said that the meeting we had with the midwives def had an impact on them rushing everything through especially as we had been so well informed of what we wanted etc. I am not sure if that is true but it would be nice to think so. The new place is SO posh too. Apparently has marble floors in reception and an en suite shower room and a TV and DVD and fridge in our room . Like a hotel. I will be staying in a night now . I cannot believe my luck so you will hear no complaints from me anymore. I feel bad now for banging on as much as I have. Feel completely spoilt after all the stresses about it all. Sorry .
Take care all, and hope to hear from Jonah and Pink soon. Where is Gweny too and KVG??.....

Morning!

Babies anyone??

Trib - have you had a sweep then? Was it more painful than having a smear? Do you have your bp taken by an automatic cuff or do they use a stethoscope? Mine always reads quite a lot higher on an automatic one.

Katz - thanks for you tips with induction - if I have to go down that route, I'll try to remember to "go with the flow"

Mog - lol at your stricken beast wild staring eyes I SO know how you feel. Dp almost wet himself laughing at my struggle to get upright from lying on the settee last night you are good letting your dh go to see REM! oo, I bet you're mum would be pleased to hear you and MIL chatting about her! Glad you felt better about it though.

Bubb - hope the dodgy tum wasn't from the pineapple....? Re the sweep - there can't be anyone more anti-induction than me and I would try a sweep before anything else - the contractions a sweep bring on are natural unlike if you have a pessary or drip where they are a lot more dramatic. But I don't want to have an epidural, so I guess if you are having one it won't make any difference? Good luck anyway Blimey - only a stone lighter after giving birth?! I was hoping it would be more like 3!!!!

pmsl at mog and Bubb's lolly exploits and ball bouncing! The sheer glamour on this thread is almost intimidating!

Franni - My goodness, what a horrible scare for you at ds's birth - did anyone tell you he was still born at the time? Poor you. I can totally understand why you're considering a cs. Thank goodness we live in a time and country where we are (usually) monitored closely and have a degree of choice. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you over the next few days - sounds like they're going to be long ones. If after this birth you are still going over ds's birth in your head, maybe you should post a thread here or speak to your previous consultant about it, or even get some counselling? You don't want it leading to post natal depression x Lol at your father's child-bride!! He didn't import her did he?? How old is she - surely not younger than you? Sorry to find it funny, but my dad's just got online and spends half his life setting up dates. He's just been dumped by someone a month younger than me. What are they like?

Lua - the one thing that worries me about getting a sweep is that the mw might break the waters in the process. From your experience how likely do you think this is?

Coop - I'm with you on the wearing a bra at least whilst ball-bouncing, Need the support!
That baby not moving thing's awful isn't it? I'm sure as I go through there's lots of times he's snoozing so simply not moving that I don't notice because I'm not thinking about it. But those times I'm sitting/lying still and notice he's not moving make me sick to my stomach until he does - which he always does after some orange juice. Phew.
Well done for doing "it" this morning! Dp said he'd "have a go" last night if I really thought it would do some good as I dragged myself half asleep up the stairs to bed on all fours. Obviously this whipped me into a passionate frenzy and I jumped on him straight away. NOT. I mean do you have to enjoy it for it to work - iykwim or is it the physical process that's supposed to do the job.

Morning.

Lua, thanks for your message, amybe that's what's happened here.
Charley, yes the child bride is younger than me, not quite sure how old. Not ordered, searched out and collected if you know what I mean! And this is number 2!! Still whatever does it for him.
I agree with you on the sweep thing, I would definately go for that option before induction if it's possible. If you think you're upto it you should ask again, Bub.
Coop, poor you, with the baby not moving, it's scarey isn't it. I can't think what gets my critter moving.
Charley, with ds, his heart beat went down to 30 per minute, when they didn't even have time to do a cs, even though I'd had an epidural, and he was yanked out, consultants first words were Oh My God. He was bricking it. It was a nightmare on reflection, he was f-ing and blinding at the nurses and he was still in his coat when he was stitching me up. At the begining of this pregnancy I went over the notes with the midwife, and of course there was no reference to the fact that he thought he had lost him, but it was definately a close call. I will certainly consider talking to people if I feel I need to after number 2 comes along. TBH I think it's the imminent event that has stired things up. I feel a lot more possitive today.
It's roasting down here already, garden and paddling pool today, and down to my mums for a bbq later. Tomorrow is my due date and you just need something organised to take your mind of things don't you.
Have a great day everyone, and hope to hear from our missing friends soon on their babies.
XX

morning all,

coop-the clinic sounds fantastic and so posh with its marble floors.bet you cant quite believe it.LOL at your dh.i certainly couldn't manage twice in one day at the mo and especially not in this heat-fingers crossed it works.

charley-LOL at your dp saying he'd "have a go" if it will do some good.sounds very much like my dh.

franni-glad your'r feling a bit better this morning.your ds's birth sounded very traumatic so its not surprising your's anxious with this one,especially with your due date drawing nearer.it's also lovely and hot down here but i dont think i'd fit into a paddling pool though.
lovely day for a barbie-hope you enjoy it.

well i've woken up this morning to quite bad period type pains very low down.i noticed them at about 3am,on one of my nightly trips to the loo and they're still there.i was getting rather worried but i've just been to the loo and think i may have had the start of a show.im not sure and sorry if TMI but it was more like gooey egg white with a very slight(hardly noticeable)tinge to it.does anyone know if thats what it could be?
maybe all that bouncing in my knickers last night actually did something!!!

hope everyone else is fine and looking forward to hearing from jonah and pink soon

Morning all

Hope you're all well this morning. Have visions of you all bouncing around on your birth balls up and down the country (and in the Med of course).

Nothing is ever going to bring this baby out, I don't think. Curry last night and all it got me was horrific indigestion at 4am. And I have even resorted to the sex option even though right now I don't care if I never do it again, it's just soooo passionate with me saying 'we can do it but it has to take less than 5 minutes or I'll seize up'. Still, only myself to blame, if I'd gone with the elective section straight away I would have had it by now, this is the price of holding out for vbac.

I know what you all mean about the movements - I've had this a couple of times the last few days when I've just realised I can't remember the last time I felt the baby, usually because I've been busy. It's a horrible feeling.

Sorry so many of you are having parent-hassles, it's the last thing you need when you have your own family to concentrate on.

Right I have to go off and play Lego Star Wars with ds who is hanging off my arm at the moment. Then today we have a little festival in our village, with floats and a procession, so we're going up to have a look at that, if I can find the leaflet that tells us what time it starts. Hope you all have nice weekends, here's hoping for some more babies by Monday.

Bub, that sounds just like a show, this could be it!!! Hope it is.
Mrsfp, lol at you seizing up after 5 minutes! Your good to get that far!! (wink)

Morning all

Just checking in to see if we have more babies yet

Some people are very quiet that we haven't necessarily had 'warning' about impending labour - apart from their being pregnant of course !!

Bubbs, haven't had a show, but it sounds like the 'mucus type plug that they talk about in the text books!! Good luck!!!!!

Right, I'm off for my crisps, see you all later xxx

Good luck Bubb, sounds like it is about to happen for you!

Charley, I suppose it depends on the MW hospital policy.... My experience on this matter was brill! They explained everything to me with me sitting down and away from their hands.... ask me if I agree and then did what they needed too. So I wouldn't worry about them doing anything without you wanting. I thing I also remember Mears or pupuce (I am not sure though...) saying that is considered a criminal offense to break the waters without consent.

TMI alert! I would say my sweep was a bit ouchy because they could barely get up to my cervix as it was so high! I imagine it would be as a smear or less if your uterous is further down, IYSWIM...

Hope everybody has a nice weekend

On the sweep thing, I had one on Thursday. It wasn't painful but was uncomfortable, kinda in a weird way. Did not last long and, like regular internal exams, helps if you can relax. Nothing happened right away but that evening I was definately hormonal, weepy and emotional and then through the night and morning had more intense cramping/backache than what I have had before. But they eased off during the afternoon and have not returned. I do think I lost my plug, big lump of mucus in the afternoon, no blood or bleeding/spotting; I imagine that I have dilated a wee bit more but apparently it's not time yet. Due in a couple days. Also been drinking loads of raspberry leaf tea, ate a load of hot sauce and am about to cut into a pineapple later today. But at this point I just figure if it happens it happens. I hope I can maintain that cause I am tired of obsessing over when it's going to start!

Lua, I would have preferred a little more information from my MW before the sweep - I agreed based on trust rather than a position of knowing what exactly the deal was. I think I would have preferred to wait until after due date to be honest, as in my case there's no pressing need to go early (other than I have been pre-laboring for a couple weeks now!). I know more now, after the fact, about what a sweep is than I did when I had it done and I don't think that's the best way to do it.

Afternoon all.
Roseberry - Hello. Why did your m/w want to do a sweep? It does seem odd if you haven't actually reached your due date yet. Is it your first baby. Hope you will let us know how you get on.
Bubb - Sounds very much like a show to me. Fingers crossed. Get bouncing on that ball again.
Mrs F - Lol at being in the mood for sex. I really wasn't as I feel like a heffalump and didn't feel like there was actually any room for it sorry TMI. But it was fun . DH is well up for it now lol but it is far too hot and thankfully dd has woken up now to get me off the hook for a while . Enjoy the festival.
Charley - I think the man has to enjoy it to get the full effect. I believe the sperm is the key ingredient. I guess it helps if you enjoy it too though. It isn't working for me yet though so who knows.
Franni - Poor you with Ds's birth. How traumatic. No wonder you are getting so anxious this time. I have been a real mess worrying on occasion and dd was as straight forward as they come. Wishing you more positive vibes.
Charley - Mears wrote on another post that the electronic readings can be out compared to the hand taken ones (IYKWIM). I think I am repeating correctly when I say she said the electronic ones are good for taking several readings over a period of time for comparison. I thought that was interesting with what you said too.
Well we popped out this afternoon to reccie the route to the clinic so we know where we will be going if it ever happens lol. It will take 20-30 mins so not too bad. I just hope the roundabouts are not busy as that could add time on to the journey and I don't want people looking at me in the back of the car in labour lol. I am sure I won't care when it is happening of course. I only popped into the reception at the clinic but it does look nice and new and shiney and was nice and cool in there (has hit 33 degrees here today) so I won't be wasting time before I get there anyway. I went to ELC too and bought dd some more jigsaws. She loves them at the moment and they keep her busy and quiet which will be just what I need, bless. Right off to bounce on the ball under the fan again.

Pink's had her baby - was just nosing on the June babies thread and Uwila has heard from her: here .

Cooperoo - this is my second child. Basically since 37 weeks I have been pre-laboring, low-level backache/cramping, nothing regular though, baby dropping a bit more each day (still floating on Thursday but not by too much), apart from waters breaking (which did not happen with first) and bloody show, all other signs of impending labor are showing, just not in any overwhelming sense. My first was 4 days after due date, no complications. So when I went in for my regular check-in this week, MW suggested an internal to see how things were progressing, which I was fine with an expecting as it is so near time. I wanted to know if I was dilated at all. She also suggested doing a sweep and I just went with it as it sounded familiar in a vague sort of way and also I have a great deal of trust in my MWs. However, in hindsight, had I known then what I know now, I might have declined until late next week (after due date). I don't know. The waiting and obsessing and is it/is it not and when will it see-saw of the last days of pregnancy is no fun. All you can do is wait, really, but with all that time on your hands it can drive you nuts and make you very changeable (like, one hour you cannot wait to have the baby and want it out NOW and two hours later you are thinking maybe the baby hanging in there for another few days isn't such a bad thing after all).

Today I am trying to just be very laidback about it all, when it happens it happens but I suppose since I'm not cramping/aching or feeling any labor related physical signs it's easy enough to do. Ask me again when I am cramping what my state of mind is!

Great news about Pink, the birth sounds somewhat traumatic though (well, all that time between waters breaking and emergency c-section), so hope she's doing okay. Uwila, if you read this please pass on our best!

RoseBerry how frustrating that nothing seems to be getting going. Fingers crossed for you, and thanks for the info about sweeps. I had figured they would be more painful than a smear so I am somewhat relieved. I do wish all these things weren't less painful if you can manage to relax though, since that's the exact opposite of what you want to do!

Charley - no, the bp reading was taken with a stethoscope. Here in the sticks I don't think we have those bp machines. (Not strictly true, I know they have them in the hospital). Pre-eclampsia runs in the family so I'm not really surprised this has happened, I was v pleased my bp stayed low for so long. However, no doubt tomorrow it will have gone back down to normal and I shall be back on the bouncy ball Re: getting jiggy, I read it's only the presence of the guy's "contribution" [shall we say] which helps to stimulate contractions, so absolutely no need to enjoy it unless you want to

Bub, it does sound like things might be getting under way for you - best of luck!

Franni, sympathies for your first delivery, I do hope things go more smoothly this time.

Coop, did you check out the inside of the clinic? I hope they have chandeliers to go with the marble floors

MrsF - fingers crossed for you too, could the indigestion have been more than that, do you think?

Oh Roseberry, how annoying having all that cramping and symptoms and nothing developing. Megi on this thread had a show for over two weeks before her ds arrived . How frustrating! I know what you mean about wanting it one minute and the next feeling happy to wait a while..... Due to various factors I wanted my bump to be three days late but now it is five days late I am well ready for it and quite bored with the waiting. Trying to keep busy but preoccupied by the whole thing, a feeling I am sure we are all sharing!
Mrs F - Thanks for letting us know about Pink. It does sound a bit traumatic after all her preparations. I hope she is being well looked after. I wonder if she had her doula there. I hope she stays in and is well looked after for a while to help her recovery. Gorgeous name too.
Bubb - Any news??
Trib - Hmm didn't spot the chandeliers but I am sure the butler will point them out for me when I get there . At least we don't have to take in out own teabags and coffee now. Have told DH I am staying in a night now too. I think he is quite relieved that he will not have to look after my demands as well as dd lol. I will see how it goes. It all depends what time the bump arrives I think.

well im still here bouncing on my ball.nothing has changed from this morning and i still have the pains so im hoping thats a good thing,even though they're not actually contractions-more period type pains.if they get any worse though,i think i'll phone the hospital.

thats good news about pink having had her baby-hope she's ok and recovering well.

glad everyone else seems ok and im really pleased for you and the clinic,coop.