Due November 2009 - second trimester thread part 2

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Ninja didn't think you were at all! 9lbs 12oz made my eyes water. DH's dad (where the large baby and male baby genes come from) was 11lbs 10!!!

DS' birth wasn't that traumatic to be fair, just exceptionally quick and due to there being a bit of meconium in my waters I had to be constantly monitored. He came through at a fair pace and the mw made me push him out in one long push as his heartrate had dipped, hence the tearing.

I've since done my research and the evidence points to the meconium being from a mature gut (not distress) and all babies get a heart rate dip right at the end in the birth canal. So with hindsight (what a marvellous thing!) I could have stood my ground and just pushed him out a bit slower.

The stitching bit wasn't too bad tbh, plenty of local took away any pain. Worst bit for me was that the mw dragged DH down to look at her handiwork after 45 mins of stitching with my legs still in the stirrups Not the picture I wanted him to have of me post delivery of his firstborn!!!

I'm keeping my legs crossed at the mere thought of 11lb 10zo

Ursi glad I'm not the only one

Ninja indeed ... all 4 boys were above the 10lbs mark and the mother was only 4'11" [wince]

She was a hardy Scotswoman married to a trawlerman though - maybe that is the difference?!

All those large numbers are making my eyes water!!! My mother and DP were both under 3lb - DP was three months prem, he only just survived, and mum is a twin, and they were six weeks early.

I think I was about 6lb. My brother was 4lb because my mum had a tumour at the same time.

A small head and average size would be nice, please!!!

Erika I know what you mena about the over-heating, tho it doesnt help that i decided it would be cold and put my mat jeans and long t-shirt on and been boiling, and yesterday when it was cold I was wearing a dress!

I'll be honest, when I "got dressed" today, it consisted of knickers and a cami-top until about ten minutes before DP came home You poor think, Trikken, I hope you cool down soon!!!

DP came back with a bunch of sunflowers for me - my favourite!!! Feeling very soppy and gushy right now - we're decided to spend the evening watching chick flicks instead of dragging ourselves out to the cinema. Might even treat myself to a glass of Rose...

ErikaMaye I've read all the twilight books - I read them all in a row. I couldn't put them down! My 12-year-old niece recommended them to me and I don't care if they are teenage and corny they are great!

Nipple shields - didn't work for me. Hurt just as much as without and harder to suck.

DS1 was 9lbs 14oz. DS2 was only 9lbs 4 oz. Hoping for a smaller one again!

Watching Wednesday's BB at the moment. Catching up!

I'm enjoying them so much. Just in the third chapter of Jacob's POV in Breaking Dawn... Getting very exciting. I questionable writers choice, admittedly, changing perceptions, but it works. Risky, though!

I'm thinking of looking into doing a course in counselling. I need SOMETHING to be doing with my life, and an OU course is out of the question, simply because the level of commitment balanced with a new born is irrational. But there's a ten one afternoon a week course for the Level One, and one of the dates starts in April, and is an evening course. That would be fab, as its just round the corner from my DPs place as well. It would give me something to feel positive about, give me some time off from baby, and also give DP some Daddy-Son time, which I know he's really looking forward to Its £150 but I think it would be well worth it...

Think it might well be bed time yawns Am shattered!! DP's just washed my hair and given me a back rub... Duvet is calling!!!

Erika - the course sounds great, I love having a bit of 'me' time, ie. not time focusing solely on baby. I think you'd enjoy the time out as much as anything and April isn't unrealistic. Go for it!

Re big babies, I'm really hoping this one drops back to the 9lbs or even in the 8s wouldbe good, they've told me this one will prb be bigger than last, but know people who've gone the other way so I'm trying to convince myself i'm one of those! Tho health vistitor did comment on my size yesterday when DS had his jabs.

erika (and anyone else thinking abt studying while on maternity leave/ part time work further down the line) - do you know about the ILA accounts? Everyone is entitled to £200 per year towards courses and £500 per year, dependant on the course and if income is under £18000 (and I don't think they consider household income, just the applicant).

I've been looking into real nappies as well but my goodness it is complicated! Hoping to find somewhere local to view all the different types, if not I think my nappylady adviser will be in for a very long phone call!

erika It might be worth checking that the course you want to do is accredited. This website should have some info www.bacp.co.uk/

Morning all

Feeling blue here today, and tired and hungry, and maybe just a little sorry for myself

DH asked last night whether my current lack of desire was likely to last until the baby was born - just so he knows and can plan acordingly.
Made me feel awful, like any discomfort I'm feeling is an aside to the issue of him not getting his end away. Now feel a bit lonely tbh - AIBU?
Talk some sense into me please!

Thanks, ladies. Will check into both of those things

Aw scarlotti... Have some free hugs!!! Men are such odd creatures... Don't let him guilt you into though, if its too uncomfortable, then don't. Maybe you could still find time to be intimate without getting carried away? Like take a bath together or something... This end, since DP has put on weight (he's doing so damn well, I'm so proud of him!) his libido has gone shooting up. Its nice to feel like I'm still attractive, at least in someone elses eyes, but its annoying at times!

I've eaten so much this morning and still famished.

Erika aww to dp buying you flowers, i love unexpected flowers. also the course idea sounds like a great one.

scarlotti you cant help not being up for it, i think it was a bit unfair of your dh to ask you that. with me it can change daily according to mood and how im feeling well-wise, i wouldnt like being asked how long it would go on for- i just couldnt tell. dont feel blue, cos you are doing an amazing thing.

Sacrlotti I really feel for you. It just leaves every kiss and cuddle so loaded with expectation.
But your DH is probably just feeling a little left out and I doubt he wants to have sex with some one who's not enjoying it. He just wants to know you still want him and he's being a bit selfish about it.

I think my dp is having the opposite reaction so I told him I'd seen a thread on MN where a dp had said "not even from behind in the dark" (during pg) and I could see the relief on his face that he wasn't alone. We are both able to laugh about it though and it's kind of a running joke now.

Thanks girls.

Trikken am the same really, the mood can come and go with the wind. Everything is just so sensitive down there that it's not that enjoyable when it does happen either.
I think it was more the fact I was supposed to be able to put a time frame on it - can't it just be that if it happens then it's a brucey bonus?!

[whispers] me and dh haven't done 'it' at all since finding out I'm pregnant Too be honest we haven't had much opportunity as we are both either too tired or ds is up and about. We were meant to be going away this weekend, just the two of us, to the theatre and then stay over in a posh hotel in London so thought it might happen then, however due to my swine flu we have had to cancel

Still feeling utterly rubbish, just wish this bloody cough would go, tis very annoying!

helips thanks for sharing, I feel a little better knowing it's not just me

We managed it twice on hols, were away for 10 days. I put it down to being so relaxed from laying on a sun lounger all day - my feet didn't swell up as much either

Hi Ladies,

I know I said that I wouldn't be doing marathon posts anymore, but my GOSH have you lot been chatty for the past couple of days!

I've actually sat here and caught up and written notes for myself so I remember who said what!

Scarlotti You are NOT being unreasonable. At ALL. Men can be such insensitive wombats. I'm in the "what's sex?" club, and luckily DH is not complaining (although I suspect that also has to do with the fact that he doesn't fancy shagging a walrus...) but a friend of mine was telling me about her DH complaining about the lack of action, and when she'd broken down and told him that she feels really unattractive he'd just told her to get over herself as it's not fair he should suffer because she's got issues! (I mean really, how about a big kiss and cuddle and a white lie if he must?)

Ursi I can sometimes feel (and see!) the head, as he is transverse at the moment and sometimes pushes his head up so that I have a massive lump on the right side of my bump. It's quite freaky and a bit uncomfortable when he does it, but quite cute at the same time. Over the last few days I've also felt little feet if I'm on my left side and he's kicking that way.
I'm with you re: the "new smell", when the pram arrived the whole room had that new furniture smell... will make sure I put it outside one sunny day to air out properly. I know it's paranoid, but I just keep thinking of all the chemicals...

beepbeep and scorpion a fellow bike-widow over here...

Pavlov AAWWWW to your dream! How sweet, and how lovely that it made you feel so positive! I must say I really admire you. I was just thinking that other day that I really don't know how anyone who already has DCs can cope with the nausea, and found myself wishing it had been twins so that it would've all been over and done with in one go. I'd love to think that we'll have another DC one day - must just hope that the people who say every pregnancy is different are right!

Erika I've been keeping a diary since the BFP, but I've been writing it for the baby. I just realized it might've been nice to keep one for myself too, in case I ever go through this again, or I don't know... If I ever have a daughter. Next time!

And a little update...

I think I already told you that I went to a baby second hand shop around where I live and had a near panic-attack at all the STUFF. It was so overwhelming I ended up walking out. Also, to be fair, it wasn't actually all that cheap either, so instead I've spent a few hours on-line. Just had the first delivery, which included a breast pump (Boots have got the Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature for 1/2 price at the moment!), have also got some maternity pads (that look strangely like puppy training pads...) and some clothes for the little one. Will order the hammock later today. (BTW, supposedly babies can sleep in the hammock til they're 12 months. Would that be too early for them to move in to a "real" bed - with a guard rail, of course?)

Not planning to do any nip-prep as I read that the baby sucking will stimulate whatever centre in the brain that gets the milk flowing so I thought that it would be better to not have de-sensitized them?

I've taken to sleeping with a banana next to my bed as I keep waking up at 5AM ravenous. (OTH, I'm pretty much keeping new-born hours at the moment anyway as we've temporarily got three kittens as well as our normal three cats in the house, so am up every hour letting someone in or out anyway.) I know now why kittens are so cute - if they were any less adorable you'd end up booting them out in the rain when you've had three hours sleep and find one of them climbing in your ficus!

Have found my inflatable in-flight neck support pillow is the BEST for sleeping with between my legs. Ahhh.

I think the Lucozade test must be one of those regional things, I certainly wasn't told about it.

Umm, that should be all.

Broodzilla good to 'see' you again. Thanks for the comments.

So you're going for a hammock too?! We've opted for one and I managed to get it on eBay for almost half the original price. As far as I know they can use it up to about 40lbs if you have the stronger spring. I'd say the bed question will only be answered when your lo reaches nearer that age - you'll know if he/she's a night time wriggler by then!
I've also bought the TT closer to nature breast pump

Morning ladies,

I have been very emotional recently. But very supporting husband. I am feeling bit unappreciated at work at the moment. Came in today even though I asked for a day off but wasn?t told if I could or not so came in just in case anyway.

I am off to wedding tonight. Have a very busy weekend ahead. I am leaving ds and dh behind. I will miss them. Especially as will only get back on really late flight on Sunday so probably won?t see ds until I come back from work on Monday night! Unless he gets up really early on Monday morning before I leave the house at 7am.

What is belly bar you have been talking about?

Have you looked at mountain buggy? I love mine. Used it till recently with ds (4.5y now). Nope he is not lazy, we take it with us on hikes etc. It?s great. We had the pram addition to start with as ds was winter baby but you can use it from newborn. Can add car seat so is a proper travel system. Light and so easy to steer with just one hand. Also has a massive shopping basket, can hang things on it and won?t tipple over! I used to walk everywhere and used public transport and can?t fault it!

Pavlov what a dream! I can?t even imagine her yet. I seem to be dreaming about zombies only lately.

Ds was two weeks late (if you take 28 days cycle, which mine is longer) so was induced and weight 3.75kgs I think that might be 8lb 5oz? I grazed a lot (I remember dreading to go to the toilet for at least a week it was that painful) and a really small tear (mw said maybe one stitch do I want it? I said no.)

Oh it's not morning, it's almost lunch time! Yey! I am alredy thinking about ham and cheese melt from Eat....

Scarlotti hugs from me too. It must be a symptom of pregnancy having really sensative bits. I'm the same. Also I just don't fancy it. I feel such a lump. But I 'miss' the intimacy of it so it's a bit of a tug really: to do it and put up with the pain and tenderness or not do it and feel lonely and also a bit sorry for DH.

It's raining

I'm hungry and could just eat a cheese and ham melt Yum.

BBL yes, I reckon it's a symptom. If I do it when I'm too tender though it ends up in me getting thrush.
Am the same though, v little intimacy if we don't so end up feeling quite lonely too. Am wondering if we should be exploring other options. To be fair, DH is a lovely guy and quite sensitive to my feelings so I suspect my hormones have made me feel worse.
Maybe will chat about it tonight when I'm feeling a little more stable!

Chicken and bacon salad sandwich here, yum!

No tears beep thats amazing..my pushing was frantic I suppose...DD was 9lb 1oz and got a nasty third degree. I will be keeping an eye on breathing and pushing this time..thanks. Also did the perenial massage to no avail..

pavlov lovely dream..

Bump is huge..do we really have 3 months to go!!!