Due November 2009 - second trimester thread part 2

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Raggie - Its tomorrow, and I'm bricking it!! It doesn't seem quite real yet, I'm sure it won't seem real properly until the baby is actually born - but having a gender to associte it with (Being able to say "Son" or "Daughter") will make it that bit clearer in my mind, maybe allow me to get my thoughts in order. I'm hoping so. Right now, theres no space in my bedroom!

Lemontop - I can understand, at the same time, why people wouldn't want to As for pelvic floors... Ugh! I do ten and I'm knackered!! 50 sounds like tourture!!!! How was the class though? I'm going to start talking to MW about antenatal stuff next week when she comes over.

Class was good. Didn't feel like I was straining anything or pushing myself too hard but could really feel the effect when I came out of the water. There were some very heavily pregnant women there so it might be something I can do right till near the end.

Good luck with the scan today erika

Wow, a lot of 90's indie fans here, yay! I loved blur, The Charlatans and Stone Roses etc etc, was a great time for music ! They just don't make music like that anymore [old fart emoticon!!]

Still shattered here, DD was very restless with croup and had to take it turns in beng in same room as her cause of her breathing being so laboured - she seems quite a bit happier this morning but still barking like a dogg and squeaking when she talks (at least she's talking today tho). On plus side DS slept through til 6.30 (really good for him).

Hope all the scans go well today.

Hi all

I think the finding out the baby's sex thing is totally individual. Some people want to for the reasons ErikaMaye give and some others don't want to like the likes of Lemontop and me. I just want a surprise! I'm old fashioned as well. If I did find out I would want to keep it a secret and I am rubbish at keeping secrets...

Katster and Helips glad I'm glad I'm not the only aged indie hippy chick here! I am so jealous at you guys seeing Blur. DH works with the wife of an one of the Charlatans - she works in IT. And we used to live fairly close to Alex from Blur (before we moved to Shropshire). That's about it my my indie music claims to fame!

I am sooo tired today. Feel sick too. Is it normal to have a bit of hormonal surge around 20 weeks? I feel sick like I did at 8 weeks. I've also been getting really painful 'trapped wind' (sorry if TMI) too. I wonder if the baby is sitting somewhere that is causing this.

Glad the class was good, lemontop. I'm a bit concerned that my disability might stop me doing some of the antenatal classes. I used to do yoga before I had a relapse, but if my blance is that bit more out I dunno if I can. Maybe aqua is the way forward!

Hope I didn't offend you, Becky. I just need to know so its real in my mind Doesn't mean I disagree with people not finding out. Sorry if I did. x

I'm feeling so messed up right now!! My scan is at four, and I'm so nervous. I hate going up to the hospital as it is - its right next to where my physc. unit used to be, and people stare at me. I know the whole red hair and walking stick must make me stand out a little, and now the obvious pregnancy just makes it that bit more interesting to goggle at, but still. My friends are taking bets on whether it will be a boy or girl - general concesus is girl. DP is coming over about two.

In other news... letter to the company is nearly done. Dad ended up taking over and not letting me write it. Think he's writing a bit more than I would have, but hey! So will send that off, and call the bank.

Hope you're all feeling good today.

ErikaMaye of course you didn't offend me. My point is that it really is an individual thing so no one should say to anyone 'you should find out' or 'you should wait'. I totally understand why you want to find out!

Good luck for your scan this afternoon! I was really nervous for mine too.

Becky, I had my nausea come back this morning, so maybe there is something going on? I don't know.

Erika, good luck with your scan, I hope it all goes very smoothly.

Pavlov, that all sounds awful. I've had them lose paperwork and forget to book appointments too, and while I try to be sympathetic (I gather that NHS maternity services are largely dependent on midwives working unpaid overtime), it is HARD when you're worried about your baby and your health.

I'm a bit depressed about my physio appointment yesterday. She confirmed that the diastasis I had with DS has worsened hugely - when I tense my stomach muscles, I get a pointy hill in the upper half of my abdomen which is apparently my organs trying to make a run for it through the gap - and that this really isn't helping the instability of my hips and pelvis out. My hips hurt. My back hurts. I've still got eighteen more weeks and a lot more weight to go.

I did ask her about DS's birth - I'd written that I had SPD in my (very short) birth plan, and I'd been assured by my community midwife that the hospital staff would be sensitive to that. Instead, I got told to hold my thighs back so my knees were around my ears to push, and then when I couldn't do it (due to entirely hideous splitting-like-a-wishbone feeling), got harangued by the consultant. Then they put me in stirrups and left me there afterwards. The physio said cosily 'Oh, that won't happen at THIS hospital!' I said 'It DID happen at this hospital.' Then she told me that I need to think positively, and said 'You need to have faith in yourself!' I told her that I did have faith in myself, I just had absolutely no faith in the barbarians staffing the maternity ward.

Oh well, I have a very fetching belt to wear now...

Tamlin, I hope it will improve or at least not get worse. And that this birth will go better according to your wishes.
Lemontop, I really want to do aquanatal but couldn't find anything near me, only normal aquagym. I guess I will soon start doing this but probably there will be mainly old women. A few pregnant ones as well I guess.
BBL, I agree it is completely individual. I'm happy that we found out because it was a surprisingly big difference how much closer I suddenly felt. So I can recommend it from my point of view. But I do not care if others don't find out. I'm actually surprised that others seem to meet so many people who tell them that they disagree with their choice. It's not really one of the big questions,is it? Many people asked me if we will find out / found out and wanted to know the result, some said they would not want to find out but no one actually critizised me for my choice.

Good luck with todays scans.
Mine is at two so fingers crossed hes a bit more cooporative today

Good luck everyone with scans today!

Just popping in quickly,

Good luck with the scans today!

On the subject of finding out the sex, I agree with BBL it really is down to each individual person and their circumstances. No matter what you decide there will always be someone who will judge you. I completely understand why people want to found to out for practical and bonding reasons, I had a friend who was desperate for girl so decided to found out, turned out to be a boy but she had 20 weeks to come to terms with it. On the other hand last year another friend found out purely because there were a few of them pg together and the others all found out, she was gutted as soon as she found out and wished she hadn't ruined the surprise. It really is each to their own, for me I've not found out with any of mine and have loved hearing Dh say "its a boy" when they've arrived. Keeping everyone guessing is always good fun too!

Pav what a pain your hospital are being, that's a long time to wait.

On the baby moving front, at 20 weeks your uterus should only just be coming up to your tummy button, so all the baby movements will be below that, (movements above will be wind) after 20 weeks the uterus grows higher and higher meaning the baby movements will too. Hope that helps.

Hi Everyone

Good luck to all those having scans today. Pavlov I can see why you're frustrated, it sounds like an absolute farce. Hopefully things will improve and the non-routine scan will be fine.

Lemontop I'm sorry you've been having problems. Fingers crossed they're over for you now and the rest will be plain sailing x

I'm going to join the club of nauseous bumps today. Mine returned with a vengeance yesterday. I haven't even cleaned my teeth yet and have to go for an appointment with psychologist shortly but I can't get the toothbrush into my mouth without retching or actually being sick. Thank goodness for TicTacs.

Psychologist appointment is meant to help me with my needle phobia... I had counselling when I was pregnant with DD and it consisted pretty much of asking why I was scared of needles (horrible dentist when I was little) and pretending visualising someone sticking a needle in me. Have to say it was fine in theory until someone came to stick a dirty great canula in my arm and I completely freaked out. Saying that, the doctor did cock it up twice, leading to a massively swollen, black and blue forearm... not really what I needed.

Just hope the poor woman can understand me today - I have the most bunged up nose thanks to DD passing on her cold...

Sitting here with laptop on my knee and watching my bump move up and down in various places as baby boots his way around - slightly uncomfortable when he finds my bladder but reminds me that there's a little person in there who I'll meet in a few months time... Oh god, I really need to start getting things sorted!!!

And a rant before I go. As much as I love the Iggle Piggle toilet trainer seat for DD, I absolutely hate the way that if you have to have something delivered from Mothercare.com, they only tell you it'll be delivered within 3-5 working days and someone has to be in to collect it. The delivery man came Friday (i wasn't in) and left a card. I rang him and he said no other neighbours were in (actually my nosey neighbour next door said she saw a delivery van pull up, briefly try the door then drive off). So it was going to be yesterday... once again, another card as he must have been when I had to nip out to rescue DD's teddy which was stranded in the garden in a rainstorm. So today he promises me that he'll be here before 2.30pm since I expressly told him when I will be in, sitting quietly, not leaving the confines of the house for a second. Time anyone? Of course he hasn't been and I have to leave for the hospital now, grrrrrrrr!

Okay, I take it all back. Very nice, dripping wet man, has just delivered Iggle piggle thingy. Feel kind of bad for rant now and really can't put off stupid appointment any longer!

Hey all

Well, I had my scan yesterday, and it was lovely - the gremlin was lying in a funny position, so the whole thing took about 45 minutes, so we got to watch for ages, which was great

We asked about the sex, and the sonographer was about 90% certain that we're having a girl, which has floored me a little! DS is 18 months old, and for some reason I was sure we were having another boy - in a way I still am lol! I'm a teensy bit scared of girls - they seem so complex and multi-layered, while boys seem simple and uncomplicated! For those of you with DDs - tell me good things!! I know whatever comes out me and DH will love it to bits, I suppose I just feel a bit irked that my supposedly good instinct is wrong! Also found out that I have partial placenta previa. The sonographer was confident that it would move, but I'll still need another scan come 34 weeks.

Been a busy week for me as well - we've just had a partition wall put in to one of our reception rooms to split it into a utility room for the cats and the bins, and a playroom for the child(ren!). The paint's not quite dry yet, but it looks lovely

I'm just hangning around now waiting for DS to wake up - he usually sleeps well on a Tuesday (he goes to Nursery one day a week on a Monday) but he's been asleep (through all the drilling and bangning downstairs) for 4 hours now!! I should really go and wake him up!

Hope all are well

And sorry, on the subject of Igglepiggle, DS has just learned how to "say" it - only he says loodleloodle - so cute!

Just wanted to wish everyone good luck with the scans today! How exciting! I know it's silly, but I kind of feel like we're on the home stretch now that we're past the half-way point.

Definitely agree with the nausea returning, I've vomited about once a week since wk 20, and am back to gagging at the bin/catfood/toothbrush.

On a more fun note, the pram/pushchair has just arrived. I spent nearly 2 hours putting it together, as DH gets really impatient with things like that and he'd end up cursing the thing before it's out of the box.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!
Basically, it comes with a separate "sleeping compartment" that lies completely flat like a moses basket on wheels (although has got a back support thing should you want to sit the baby up at any point), and once the baby is 6 months (or 9 kg) you swap the whole compartment for a pushchair version, which also folds flat (back flat and footrest up so that he can sleep completely stretched out and horizontal). Best of all, it's got a reversible chassis, so at the touch of a button you can flip the handle bars over and the baby is facing in the other direction! I like the thought of him facing whoever is pushing when he's little, but facing the world when he's ready.

Oooh, and it looks lovely too. Very simple and stylish. Being Swedish, it also folds into a tiny space.

Pavlov I think at the very least you could demand that you're given a general check-up while you're seeing the consultant! I saw mine at 20 weeks, and although I'd had a scan the week before they still did BP, urin etc as I'd not seen the midwife since wk 16.

Is anyone else getting Braxton Hicks'?
I've been having them for a good couple of weeks. Most of the time they seem to kick in if I do anything remotely strenuous like walk to the shop... I'd love to be going out for long walks while I can still move, but don't think it's wise to "push through" or ignore the cramps either. On the other hand, being a couch potato is hardly good for the bean either.

Cross-posted Naetha : congratulations on the little girl!

Also, on the finding-out-sex subject, we did as we're too nosy. My side of the family was v. excited about the day we found out, and we've also told everyone what we think we'll name him. MIL tutted at us finding out the sex, but I think that was mainly as SIL has just had a baby and didn't share the sex or the potential names until after the birth.

I'm in the each to their own camp. Personally, I wanted to know, and I'm glad I do. Hearing it's a boy was a bit of a shock as I was so sure we'd be having a girl (and although I thought that I hadn't bonded with the bean, it turned out I obviously had, with a girl-to-be...) it took me a few days to re-think, and re-bond.
I was surprised by my own reaction and emotions, and am glad that it happened now rather than after the birth.

Hi everyone, I've been away for a few days and just caught up on about 5 pages of chat! Do you remember me moaning on and on about my school reunion? Well I went on Saturday and it was lovely! I was so nervous going into the school as hardly any of my friends were going, but as soon as I got there it was just like old times. It honestly only felt like a year since we'd left.

Congrats on all the good scans and hope yours goes well today Erika. Pavlov did you speak to the hospital or are you just going to wait until August? You must be so annoyed. If it makes you feel better though, 2nd timers here get an appointment at 16 and then 28 weeks, so my next one's not until September! Actually I had to pop in today though for yet another blood test and the midwife listened to the heartbeat and told me she could feel the baby kicking, which relieved me as I haven't felt much. In fact. she could feel it kicking on the outside, yet I couldn't feel it on the inside I must be eating too much!

beepbeep croup is horrible isn't it? DD had it about 3 weeks ago. I just slept with her in our bed as her breathing seemed so erratic. Have you tried putting her in a steamy room too? This is supposed to help (though I couldn't really tell).

I am also panicking a bit about swine flu. I have asthma too (not badly though), which is also on the high risk list. I'm sure it was on the news the other day though that they expect to have the vaccinations ready by the end of the summer, which can't be too far off (end of August?)

I can definitely see both sides of the to-find-out-or-not debate. I'm planning not to, but only time will tell! Scan is on Thursday...eek.

Oh, and I am so jealous of all of you who've seen Blur. DH saw them at Glastonbury, but wasn't even bothered that about it What a waste!

Back from scan...I'm having another boy. I kinda knew it would be!

Am a bit Mil just phoned to say Dh's cousin is having a baby in April thats 5 months after us, can she really know she is pregnant already?

Crossed thread turtle congratulations on you blue news

Just got back from the scan - everything looks perfect, has very small legs, but not concerningly so.

AND

ITS A BOY Was a bit worried DP might be disappointed, but he's over the moon. Lucky we wanted to know the sex - was kinda unavoidable!!!

congrats erika and turtle on your baby boys! How exciting!