Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

[turtle23]

New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

sleepless I get mouth ulcers too! Why is that? I used to get them whenever I was stressed but have been getting them in pregnancy too. Where can I find this magic B6 - and my blood pressure is low.

Strange dreams: every night! I couldn't even begin to describe my dream last night as you'd think I'd been on the wacky backy it was that bizarre.

Laugs at your freebies. I like the present idea. Like a secret Santa but with a pregnancy theme!

On the shoes front - ok soooo not fashionable but at the moment for slobbing about I wear those black plimsoles that school children wear for PE. Cost £1.99 (used to be from Woolies) and are sooo comfy.

Oh dear, I'm back. Just having a quick tea break and then will get back to my jobs, honest.

I hadn't really thought about the weight on my back if I used a sling. How long were you able to manage yours for scarlotti? I was thinking I'd just have it as a back-up ie normally have baby in pushchair and DD walking, but if DD didn't want to walk, the baby could go in the sling. I'd like to try out a buggy board too. They do seem a good idea, but are they practical enough for every day use?

I am having very vivid and quite rude dreams! I can't complain. {smile]

Laugs I didn't use mine that often and stopped by about 3 months. A friend of mine though used hers constantly as her baby wouldn't settle anywhere else, and she carried on to around 6 months. I suspect she strengthened her back as she went along just by using it, as the weight gain was gradual.
Buggy boards are great I think, I've seen one of the mum's at nursery use hers constantly and her dd is the same age as my ds. She stands on the board and looks in at her brother, fitting in between the pram and the handlebar.
Woman in the shop told me though that if you buy and fit a buggy board on to your pram that isn't made for that pram, then you invalidate the guarantee on the pram - something to watch out for. Was one of the reasons we went with the bugaboo, although we couldn't have afforded that if I hadn't got one from an mumsnetter via ebay.

I was getting vivid dreams, and nice ones with dh at that, but now they've gone. RL niceness is a distant memory as both times recently have resulted in my getting thrush so am off to the docs later to see what I can get for it. The joys eh?

I had DS in a sling until six months or so (read too much AP bollocks) but it was very hard on my back. The Bjorn with back support is better than the Bjorn without; if you can get a good mei tai style, so much the better. At the end, I had him in a hip carry in a ring sling, and he loved it. He was always, always happy in the sling, but I have joint issues during pregnancy and postpartum and couldn't keep it up.

This morning, the foetus was kicking and wriggling about like mad - it felt like da-da-dum-thump-thump! - until DS came roaring into the bedroom. Every time he started shouting or singing, the foetus promptly went still, playing possum. I had a mental image of the foetus in there, saying 'What's that NOISE? Who is THAT? Wait - wait - AM I NOT YOUR FIRSTBORN?!'

Did either of you breastfeed and could you do that while the baby was in the sling?

It's not a good day to be thinking about this really as I have done something to my neck today and it really hurts. Normally don't have any back/ joint problems though.

Does anyone have a Phil & Teds? DD will be 22months when the baby is born, is it a good idea???

I have very vivid dreams..most about DH but sometimes about exes...its so real that i feel like I've cheated on DH!!!!!

scarlotti poor you with thrush...like we don't have other things to worry about

ps am caving slowly...I love that IO Jessica Alba dress...hmmmmm does anyone have one?

Tamlin what's AP? Lol at your ds and the baby's reaction! I've been telling my ds that the baby will be able to hear him soon and so he should choose a song to sing, then when it's born it will know who he is by the song. A website (preg.fertilityfriend.com) that I look at says that this week baby can now hear what's going on as all the connections to the brain are made. Interesting that you had proof of that this week!

Laugs I didn't bf with him in the sling. We struggled enough with trying to get bf to work as it was. Am sure many mum's do though, and I'd imagine it's a discreet and easy way of feeding whilst out/getting things done.

sleepless all my nct friends had their 2nd child around the 18 - 24 months mark of dc1, and all of them went for a phil and teds. They all loved them and used them a lot for a good year. I think once dc1 gets to about 3 then a buggy with a buggy board is better as then dc1 can get off and walk for a bit, then ride when tired.

Had some cream from the pharmacist this morning and the relief today is immense. Hopefully the GP will give me a prescription I can just keep repeating as needed!

AP = attachment-parenting. You know, it's the school of thought that says you should co-sleep and breastfeed on demand and carry 'em about in slings and feed them organic whatsits while cloth nappying their bottoms. It's very tiring. You can breastfeed in a ring sling, but I always liked having the excuse to put my feet up and read a novel while nursing so never tried it.

Scarlotti, poor you, don't you miss being able to just take a pill for thrush and call it a day?!

tamlin yes! I only ever seem to get it when pregnant so it always takes a bit to work out what it is.

I watched a programme a while back with an experiment on the 3 different 'models' of caring for a newborn and AP was one of them. Was very interesting to see it in action - and not nearly as limiting as I'd presumed it would be as the woman just strapped him to her chest and got on with everything. The co-sleeping with baby though - how does that work if Dad is in the bed too? I did with dd but I was on my own then.
Do they still get put down for a nap or are you just strapped together all the time?

I tried to do far too much after ds was born and suffered with bad pnd so am keen to explore other options this time that will cut me more slack. Any advice from anyone most gratefully received!

BBL no proper rules for people I am afraid only animals are not allowed to travel on underground if temperature rises over?same applies to offices I think! And I happen to be spending a LOT of time in both! Have also put paper boxes under my desk to keep my legs elevated.
So of people of who are outside and having paddling pools as all day in the office and no garden at home!

Sorry cantrememberthename can you link us to the blinds on ikea website?

Could you lot please stop being so talkative!! I keep trying to catch up never seem to be able to! Have read about names, some still suffering with ms and about slings but I couldn't say who was talking about what (its enough for my brain to read it, let alone remember who wrote it!). Anyway, sorry I'm being a bit neglectful of the thread, but I am trying to keep up, promise!

I never got a chance to catch up on Sunday when I did spend nearly all day doing the housework (we'd had a cleaner but let them go as couldn't justify the expense!) and it took me AGES!

Had midwife appt today. All good and (eventually) found the heartbeat! Was getting myself into a bit of a tizz when she couldn't find it straight away although have to praise her for finding it at all since she had to wade through an embarrassingly large amount of blubber Heart beat ranged between about 134 - 147 - what does that mean I should be having? A boy or girl?!

Just came back from work and found the IO dresses on my bed. So to answer your questions: actually the pink one doesn't fit me at all. It should be the right size, but my breasts are too small and it looks a bit as if a little girl was wearing her mum's dress. But I really liked the purple one (I had already prefered the picture of it but thought it was not appropriate for the wedding) here I even think now it will be ok for the wedding but I will decide that end of july when I see how I look in it and if it is not too hot. I intended to choose only one of both but was worried I could like them both too much so I am happy that it is very clear that I can send the pink one back. It really doesn't suit me.

We like to sing this to the bump www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBQ7ZJ3k17E

Hope you're all well

ninja - almost made me cry. What a lovely song, hadn't heard it before. Thanks.

Lots of songs make me sniffly these days. Is this due to hormones going off kilter?

katster - I also noticed funny pulling sensations in my lower regions. It feels tight when I cough or sneeze. I thought this was to do with the constant bloating, but could be things rearranging.

Skorpion yes I think that's the hormones that make you teary. Am exactly the same - quite embarrassing.

Usigurke glad you don't have a tricky decision about the IO dresses!

All this talk of slings and prams is getting me excited! Although hadn't thought about the weight issue before. A friend of a friend is selling a load of her baby stuff in a big bumper bundle and I think we are getting it! It includes: a Quinny Buzz, with a pram top attachment and car seat, a MAclaren, gorgeous cot, Chicco polly high chair, baby bath, moses basket, baby monitor and some other stuff. It all looks brand new and is in neutral colours (red or chocolate brown) so even if it turns out not to be a boy it should be OK. Am I daft getting stuff this early? She is charging £400 for the lot, which seems pretty good to me.

koumak www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50111883 hope this works..if not they are called Sanela...they are curtains..and you can make them shorter using the iron hemming thing.

Hope all is well with everyone..

kaster37 that seems like a bargain bundle to me!

dd slept till 6:05 am...felt like a lie in...

i got a £50 buggy board for £1.02 2nd hand from ebay!! re. double buggy think depends on age of the first and tolerance for buggy, my dd 2 1/4 doesn't go into her's now so i am going with buggy board; also friend just had baby and her ds just turned 2 and she bought a double buggy and i have never seen her use it - she uses buggaboo for older one and baby bjorn for baby; so its child, age and location dependent...

for b/feeding in public you can buy a b/feeding shawl which hides the baby!

can't wait for 20 week scan as can't tell whether has felt kicking of not..

anyone seen any nice maternity skirts - denim etc, nightmare to know what to wear to work when this hot

must go hunt for holiday..think uk holiday park as exciting as going to get this year..

question of the day...will be moving dd into bed in a few months when she i s 2.5..do i buy a toddler bed - very cute oneon gltc...or a single bed??

weston depends on how much money you want to spend I'd say - she'll go into a single bed at some point so do you want to buy two beds or one?
Ds is in a cot bed but we're going to get another bed soon so that the cot bed has been out of sight for a good while before it turns into a cot for this lo. We'll go straight for a single bed to avoid buying another at a later date.

Am v. impressed at your buggy board find!

kaster sounds like a great bargain bundle to me

Got my quad test results today - covering letter says a different risk level to the attached detailed results so am not sure if I'm in the clear or not. Covering letter says less than 1 in 250 and attached doc with results says risk is 1 in 7700 at full term. My book says the risk cut off is 1 in 250.
Will have to wait until tomorrow morning to speak to anyone about it - why can't they just have one number? One of them is brilliant and the other is completely pants in my opinion.
How many more things do they want me to worry about ffs

Sorry no time to read/comment much tonight - a bit busy doing sums. Does anyone know if SMP is pro-rata? ie. do I get the statutory £123 per week if I work 4 days or do I get 0.8 of that?

Buggy boards - DD is 2.5 and beginning to enjoy walking reasonable distances. I picked up a 2nd hand buggy board at the weekend in a sale for a tenner but had to spend twice that much for connectors for it - still a good deal though considering the price of them. I just hope they fit when they arrive! My friend uses one all the time with her 2.5 year old, so between that and a sling I'm really hoping to avoid any new buggies.

scarlotti- It says less than 1:250 as a category. Meaning your results were 1 in over the number 250 in real terms (make sense?) If you had a result of MORE than 1:250 they'd be asking you back for further testing. It's early, hope that makes sense. Anyway, your numbers are fine. HTH

maybe clearer if point out that it's LESS THAN ONE in 250(like .13 or something)

Scarlotti agree with turtle - it means it is less than the category of 1:250 which is the general cut off point. If it meant MORe than 1:250 they would have put the exact statistic, eg 1:150 but that would be more than 1:250. Hoestly, I think you're fine.

scarlotti - I hope you feel better now as turtle and katster had such a good explanation (which I had to read twice but to my defence, I didn't sleep too well and it is still rather early)
So now back to the dress issue (and I'm only talking about that now): The worst nightmare happened!!! When my husband came back from work, I first showed him the pink one (to keep the better one for the end) which he hadn't liked at all as a picture and he said: Well, actually, I quite like it on you. It is really nice. Then I tried on the purple on, still thinking he would prefer it (especially because of the colour) and he didn't like it as much. Apparently my boobs looked much better in the pink one (but I tried it without bra). So now, I am confused. He asked me why I didn't keep both. Maybe I should look for a job where I can wear nice dresses... at the moment it seems easier than taking the decision
Anyway, I am happy that this seems to be my major problem at the moment.
Hope you are all fine and can enjoy another sunny day, but it seems to be a bit cooler today.