Due April 2009 - Farewell nausea and all things ghastly, our boobs and bumps are growing vastly.

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sorry to hear that springy - but i do think a lot of men hgave a funny reaction to pregnancy and dont necessarily mean anything by it - they dont realise that it will make us nervous when they appear to treat us differently.

well ds and I have spent the weekend vomitting everywhere - including me on the train on the way up to my parents. ds had been sicky for a few days but seemed better then out of the blue on the train i just vomitted everywhere. very embarrassing. then carried on being sick till today.

have taken the day off today and feel guilty cause I hate taking the day off, but I really dont feel great, and more importantly ds doesnt - he's normally with pil on a monday but he just wants to cuddle and sleep on the sofa, so I shouldnt feel too guilty should I at taking the day off?

Good Morning Ladies

It has taken me a while to catch up on all the posts since last Wednesday - so much has been happening!

Frekkles - so glad you're starting to feel a bit stronger. I'm not saying anything new here, but you are not responsible for your ex (even though you feel it because of your long history with him and because you feel sorry for his situation) and you have to put you and your baby first. All the best for telling him and your flatmates and sending you big hugs.

SpringySunshine - Because we're having triplets, we are not 'allowed' to have sex!! Nevertheless, when I have suggested 'other things' my DH has been very reluctant and says it feels weird because he keeps thinking that the baby is somehow involved!! I had to really insist on doing it (which doesn't sound very romantic) because I was worried that we'd get into the habit of being non-sexual. We kiss and cuddle a lot, but he definitely feels funny about anything sexual at the moment. He likes my tummy, boobs etc. but it's not the same kind of 'liking' them as before!! The one thing I would have your DP up about is talking about other women in front of you - that would be upsetting. Anyway, sorry to rave on, I just wanted you to know that I think it's relatively common for men to feel differently when you're pregnant.... doesn't make it any easier though, eh?

MathsMummy - I am definitely going to buy a Phil!!

I am so jealous of everyone who is feeling kicks! I can feel the odd flutters but still nothing like kicking I am 19+4 so SURELY it will be soon.....

Love, Barbarella XX

conkertree - don't feel guilty about taking a day off - you need to look after yourself and ds. Cuddle up on the sofa with a hot drink of your choice and get better XX

Hello all

at not being allowed sex Barbarella. It's going to be a long pregnancy for you!

Frekkles I really feel for you. I was in a very similar situation 8 years ago. Had a fling with a lovely friend as I was finally extracating myself from a long complicated relationship. Got pregnant but I lost the baby so I never got to the stage of having to tell anyone. But I can really relate to how you are feeling. I was miserable and felt utterly isolated.

I know everyone has said the same, but I think you must just come out with it and let everyone know. Once it is out in the open you can start to enjoy being pregnant and looking forward to the baby. I think you will be surprised by the positivity of people's reactions. Pregnancy and birth brings out wonderful things in people you would least expect it from.

Best of luck.

Conkertree enjoy your day on the sofa. Sounds like bliss and just what you need.

Hear hear Lulu. There is a lot of kindness out there looking for a recipient, in my experience. Nice things that have happened to me:

Neighbours I hardly knew offering to walk the baby around for a bit so I can eat in peace or have a sleep.

Endless presents coming my way, including from people I hardly know.

My grumpy bachelor childless boss, who notoriously called children 'urchins' a lot and didn't really know what to do with them, insisting I bring my very little baby into work if I felt like it, so I could save on childcare, keep bf, and go back to full pay, and not miss the baby during the day.

Nice women leaping up to me out of the blue and suggesting coffee. Some of them staying friends for life. Others being a pleasant interlude.

The complete stranger who played endlessly with one of my (noisier) babies on a three hour flight to Greece so I could relax a bit. He even kept going when said child threw up on him (probably due to laughing so much and being juggled around on the guy's knee so much).

Older ladies across Europe who have made me feel like a magical princess for producing a child 'of such beauty, such intelligence' regardless of the fact the baby has just pooed himself and actually only really looks beautiful to me, probably.

I could go on ...

Aah BoffinMum - brings tears to your eyes. It really is amazing how complete strangers respond to babies.

Today DD is wearing a gorgeous cardigan knitted by the mother of someone DH was in the navy with years ago. DH has only met her once or twice, I have never met her and nor has DD (although we have obviously sent her photos of DD in the cardigan AND matching hat!)

I dreamt last night that I gave birth to an 11lb 2oz baby girl. I really, really hope this baby is not that big (DD was 9lb 1oz - plenty big enough than you very much!)

conker Sorry to hear that you're feeling so rough. Make sure you & your DS have a lovely day of snoozing & television. I hope you both feel much better soon.

Barbarella Not allowed? My head hurts at the thought of it! I didn't know that that was the case for triplets. That is what I'm most worried about, though - I know that after the baby's born that sex won't happen (& that it'll matter less to me as well) for probably quite a while, & I don't want us to end up in a situation where we're just really close friends.

Boffin All of that sounds so lovely. I want it to be April already!

I think a few of us have our scans today! I'm getting really nervous about it, but I'm still nowhere near as panicky as I was before the last one - I can feel the baby now, so there can't be anything that wrong with it. Also knowing that there's been nothing picked up on the other scan or in my bloods helps. Hopefully it should turn out to be just a good chance to look at our baby (who must be quite a bit bigger now, by the feel of it & find out if it's a 'he' or a 'she'. The scan's at 5, so I'll be back tonight to let you know!

LuLu cross posts - I keep having dreams about scary things like that. Then there was the dream about the hermaphrodite baby. & the one the other night that I gave birth to an indisputably black baby, even though DP & I are very fair skinned & he's blond & blue-eyed. I remember my dream-self panicking & trying to convince him that I had no idea what had happened but it wasn't what he thought!

BoffinMum - the man on the plane sounds like an angel! Seems to me that travelling with children is one of life's most trying experiences.

LuluBai - I am a teacher and an ex-student's mum (taught him two years ago) dropped off a brand new carseat and a bag of blankets, muslins, knitted clothing etc. when she heard from another mother that I was having triplets. People have been so kind

SpringySunshine - tell me about it! We were told that it can be 'risky' with high multiples as it can sometimes bring on premature labour (what they worry about most) so best avoided if possible. All the extra blood rushing to the groin area is wasted on me..... Good luck with your scan today!!

Springy good luck for your scan. Labour isn't necessarily that bad. There is loads of stuff you can do to prepare for it and get yourself in a good mindset for coping with it. I can honestly say that I can't wait for the birth part this time around (although I have loads of preparation to do to get ready for it and no doubt will get 'the fear' at some point!). Having said that, I don't fancy giving birth to Lulu's 11lb2oz dream baby. I know that I was quite lucky last time in that my labour and birth really wasn't that painful and I hope that I am just as lucky this time. I would really like to not have the PPH, retained placenta, vulval haematoma that required surgery and an allergic drug reaction to have to deal with after the birth though

Swaliswan that was reassuring... To a point

I'm not really scared about it yet. It's hovering as a distant thought in my mind, but I know that ultimately it'll result in a lovely baby, so I'm just going to have to grin & bear it. Besides, there's nothing we can do about it now

I remember getting to a point when pg with DD and suddenly realising that I had to get this baby out somehow, it's only going to get bigger from now on and whichever way it comes out, there is going to be a lot of pain involved. After I had finished panicking and talked to my mum (who told me 'the pain is bearable - plenty of women have another one, so it can't be that bad, can it?!) I decided to do everything I could to prepare for the birth. This mainly consisted of reading positive birth stories, using a hypno-birthing CD, obuncing up and down on a birthing ball and massaging copious amounts of olive oil into my nether-regions! I thoroughly recommend the hypno-birthing CDs.

Springy don't worry about all of my complications as the chances of them happening to someone are ridiculously low. It's something like less than 1% and my MIL tells me that I was very unlucky last time.

Hi ladies!

I've been lurking for a while and am VERY jealous of all your scans this week... I am 19 weeks today but my scan is only on the 8th Dec - TWO MORE weeks to go! It's really dragging on, when all i want is to see my Mini-Munchkin again... especially after all the kicking this weekend! (I think i should rename him/her/it as Kung Fu Panda - what do you think?? )

Springy, you are so young you are likely to have the easiest birth of anyone on here, with a bit of luck. You are one of the few of us doing it at the right age, biologically speaking. I most certainly am not.

There is a lot to be said for keeping calm and doing meditation/hypnotherapy stuff, TENS, water pools, and generally being a bit of a hippy about it all. It's also reassuring to know that when the going gets tough, there are loads of people ready to sort things out medically. Best of both worlds, really.

BTW try not to read any negative birth stories for the time being until you have been to some ante-natal classes, as that might be a bit hard to cope with at the moment. Think happy thoughts!

i agree springy - think there is some evidence that (obviously a generalisation) younger women have an easier time birth wise.

swaliswan - i admire you coming back for more- sounds like you had a scary time last time.

with ds i reminded myself that women are designed to give birth so it cant be too hard - and if things dont go well - there are loads of ways you can be helped. once it starts, you just get on with it.

I've got my scan on Thursday and even that seems an age away.

Boffinmum speaks sense on birth stories. People are extremely keen to share the horror stories with you. Fwiw I had a very good birth with DD (was in my 30s rather than first flush of youth) and I found the pain perfectly bearable (and I think I am generally a bit of a wuss about pain).

That said, I am hoping I don't give birth to a total baby elephant this time (I've heard that second babies are often bigger, but then I'm sure plenty of second babies are smaller - so many old wives tales....)

Hahaha, I'll be sure to come swanning back on here in April, 2 hours after labour started, 5 minutes after the baby's emerged, bleating on about how painless & easy it all was - & what on earth were we all worried about? I didn't even break a sweat! & oh, crying? No, it already knows a vast array of sign language & can ask quite clearly for whatever it desires without any of that frustrating noise. I don't know why you're all complaining, really!

Brilliant Springy!

One mum I know popped her first out in 1hour 45 mins and the second in under an hour. She said she would rather give birth any day than visit the dentist.

They will all come out one way or another, and if the going gets tough there are always plenty of drugs (although in my case I am far more scared of needles than childbirth).

Got to go - DD has put her coat on and wants to go out and play.

We may just have to hit you with our nappy changing bags if you do that.

That last post was to Springy, by the way.

One of mine was very easy indeed, could have done it again straight afterwards, felt great. Started to understand smug mothers. The other two were technically easy but felt more like hard work.

I just tell myself 'it's only a day out your life' and that makes it more manageable somehow. You can put up with most things for a few hours, frankly.

However I will be on a SpaceHopper from week 37 with this one, so he doesn't end up as overdue and as bloody huge as his brother did. Then I can be one of the smug mummies again.

You lot have really made me giggle today! I'm currently loving the idea of a bunch of us bouncing around on spacehoppers with our huge full-term tummies & competing over whose cervix has been said to be most effaced recently. So much to look forward to