Due Dec 08 - Braxton hicks, baby kicks and leaking nips!

[Veggiemummy]

that was Disenchanted's idea for a great title not mine

Thanks the kind words. DD much better today but still quite poorly so I won't be able to come out on Friday. Shall we try for one more before we all pop?

Will try (and probably fail!) to do a catch up post tomorrow.

Take care girls.

really quick one as totally exhausted at moment, due to work and both my Dc having birthdays this week (DD is 5 today and DS is 3 on saturday). By coinidence I do actually look 41 weeks pregnant...and I feel it....but do in fact have 10 weeks to go aaaargh.

Rosmerta you have my sympathies on the SPD, it is shocking and has made my mind up for me about DEFO stopping at no.3. That grinding/clicking at night is awful. I hope things are better for you otherwise.

ladyT hope you are feeling better - it must be hard being on your own mon-fri. My Dh doesn't get home til 9 or 10 most nights, but at least I might get a couple of words out of him at that point. Best of luck with the driving!

Indith - hilarious on the cauliflower bits. Like others, no WAY am I having a look down there. I dread to think....

Kayz super news about the house. Brilliant!

arti hope you are feeling better too.

verso am envious of you getting your date tomorrow - great!

Sorry this is probably half a mega-post, so will have forgotten people.
I have m/w appointment and cranial osteopath tomorrow and then really have to try and get some rest as have been totally overdoing it and reaping the rewards.

My Dad was supposed to be coming from Ireland today for DD and DS's birthday and he just didn't show up - rang to say he had fallen off the wagon (fourth time this year after 20 years on the wagon - as a result he has not seen his grandchildren since last xmas). Really really upset me as we had nice things planned - and also, my Mum who died when my DD was 1 would have given her right arm for an extra year with her grandchild(ren) - and he has just wasted an entire year...

Anyway, what a downer. Hoping my DH comes home soon as a bit sobby and hormonal.

Turnip i'm sorry to hear that, are you ok, will you DH be home soon.

I'm watching that Jamie's ministry of food i recorded it last night. It is amazing that people not only do not know how to cook but that they don't cook for their kids. I feel a bit bad if i rely on fish fingers but won't feel so bad now. I guess we are lucky that DH and i both love cooking and i hope that our boys cook too. Feeling a bit emotional and some bits are making me cry.

am up. it is 4.53am. been awake since 2.19am. on monday i only had 2 hours sleep. last night was so tired i slept for 8 hours uninterrupted wihtout even moving. i seem to get one night's good sleep, one night's appalling sleep.

is this what 3rd trimester is like?

feeling v sorry for myself.

turnip - i'm so sorry about your dad. i have no experience of this, but it sounds awfully difficult. i know what you mean about the injustice of the person who would really have enjoyed your child not being there anymore - my mum died, too, and she/we would have had a ball now. as it is my dad, bless him, barely manages to ask if everything is all right with me and bump when i speak to him. he doesn't mean badly, just doesn't know what to say apart from the basics.

now feeling doubly sorry for myself. weeping downstairs in the kitchen hoping dh doesn't hear, yet secretly hoping he will, but the poor thing has to leave in 1.5 hours time, so he deseves some sleep.

arse.

Morning,

Sorry about your dad Turnip, I hope that he does manage to sort himself out soon.

wg I'm sorry you are not sleeping very well. I've been waking up once during the night and then waking really early.

I'm at the MW at 9, I'm really hoping she'll be able to give me something for my heartburn. Its getting really bad now and I'm just fed up with it.

I'm really struggling at work now. I'm only doing 4 hour shifts 3 times a week but they are really taking it out of me. I'm meant to be working until 37 weeks but I might have to have a talk with my boss about finishing earlier.

I hope everyone is ok.

wg you have my sympathy. It appears you also have my insomnia, as despite DD waking me at 3am for some water I managed a good night's sleep for once! Insomnia is v common in 3rd tri - I find the baby is usu v active 2am-4am. I know that doesn't help but hope it reassures you to know you're not alone . Btw sorry for abbrevs - on phone on way to work.

I'm afraid I'm going to have a bit of a whinge now...

I am so sick of work! People are absolutely piling it onto me and I'm so bloody tired and dont' feel like I can get it all done before I go. I physically can't work long hours as I get soooo tired and I just wish people would give me a break. Sick of it. Plus I'm having to go to training today for a system that is being installed when I've left. It's such a waste of my time as I'm going in 3 weeks and won't remember any of it after a year on maternity leave. Grrrr!

Sorry, me me me.

WG - I hope you're feeling a bit better this morning. Turnip - Poor you, must be so frustrating for you - especially after 40 years of no drinking. Thinking of you both.

xx

oh WG you poor thing, i feel so sorry for you but have to admit had a little giggle at the cheeky 'arse' at the end of your post. Did your DH wke up in the end.

well i guess my night wasn't as bad as all yours, i managed to get a fairly decent sleep but did have a middle of the night vomit again. I don't know what is going on. I did have lae pregnancy vomits with DS but they were usually after my breakfast, I'm thinking of having my dinner with DS today to see if that helps. At the moment i eat between 7-8pm which i didnt think was that late but obviously with the dodgy heartburn and laying down at night it is all conspiring to make me lose my dinner. Kayz i know what you mean about the heartburn, i am alternating between gaviscon & the homeopathis remedy i am on but i still seem to have it constantly. I was going to get an appointment this morning to see if the GP can prescribe something else to help but to get appointments you have to ring them at 8am, and of course i slept intil 8.30 (bless little DS was very tired after waking up with a big wet at 4am) so i missed the tie to get an appointment.

sorry that was a it of a long one.

Beans use the training today to catch up on sleep.

Oh dear, whinge whinge.

turnip sorry, that sounds awful. Don't really know what to say, but hope your dad sorts himself out soon.

waitinggirl I was awake then and also having a little cry but in bed, a shame I didn't turn my computer on and we could have had a moan together. Am tired today, and totally utterly sick of work and idiots here. Can't wait to finish but have 7 weeks to go, and intend to keep going until then, as am doing alright tiredness-wise etc, just sick of people and demotivated. Will not go into it as a) it's boring and b) i will get upset again.
Oh and also I got cut up badly by a stupid bus driver on my cycle to work. Made me angry as he slammed his window shut and ignored me when I told him what he had done. Am going to complain as I got his reg number. Basically he just overtook me with just enough space at the front of the bus as the road narrowed and as the back of the bus came past me it came closer and closer to me, making me very scared and forcing me to brake. Fortunately didn't hit me. Bloody idiot, and most p*ed off with his rude response when I tried to tell him what he did.

veggie sorry about heartburn. Mine has strangely got better since I had a whinge about it on here (still get it though). Hopefully work and crappy drivers will get better too now I have had a whinge about them!

beans don't you find training days a nice time for a relax though?! you are right it is stupid, and I guess it's not relaxing if you know you could be getting other things done. Just think of 3 weeks to go. I have 2 weeks to go until I start doing 4 day weeks with my annual leave and that is keeping me going!

I got some Gaviscon from the MW, I'm really hoping it will help.

The MW has also said that if after my week off next week I'm still struggling at work she wants me signed off sick.

kayz congratulations on getting the house, and it sounds like you can move so quickly, you must be over the moon. Hurrah!

arti your scare sounds nasty, but pleased to hear that all the swelling etc went away again quickly

reban that chat with DP sounds like it was worthwhile and you sound to have come to a good decision. And hopefully this means you can enjoy the job more as well if you are more relaxed about it.

rosmerta glad to hear you?re feeling more positive, and hoping that bandage helps.

indith your poor DH trying to be tactful about your nether regions. Was sort of tempted to check mine out, but I think that ignorance is maybe bliss!

ladyt pleased that yesterday?s driving went better. I?m really impressed that you?re doing the course, as the concentration and the sitting for so long would have beaten a weaker person (ie me), so I?m sending lots of passing vibes to you.

verso hope todays appt with the consultant goes well ? have you got a date?

turnip happy birthday to your DC?s ? both in one week, it must be like Christmas in your house this! And rather like what Christmas will be like in both our houses, my due date buddy, if these ones arrive on time. I?m sorry to hear about your Dad, it must be so hard for families to have to deal with ? and what to say to your DC who were probably looking forward to seeing him? Can?t offer anything but sympathy, but it sounds hard for you.

wg I hope you got some more sleep. I always end up having a bad day if I?ve had a bad night?s sleep, is the best thing for you and the worst thing if you don?t get enough. How did Margaret Thatcher manage on just 4 hours? Crazy lady!

sl sounds scary with that bus driver ? definitely report him. I read something in the paper yesterday about an old lady who?d got on the train with the wrong ticket and the guard had insisted she pay and extra £100 or something, so someone stood up for her, but didn?t get anywhere so had a whip round in the carriage and everyone gave a pound and they covered her ticket. But instead of the ticket inspector accepting this, he called the police and reported him for begging. I hope that bus driver gets locked up with the nasty train guard and they annoy each other for ever more.

Never even thought of taking a first aid course, but it seems such a good idea, especially after the frightening situations some of you have been in. Thanks all for the prompt on that one

Can I pick the brains of the mummies out there? I?ve been given a swaddling blanket from someone and I?m quite keen to give it a go ? but I can?t seem to find much info about swaddling, so I wondered if any of you tried it with your DC?s, and what you, and they, made of it? I guess it like routines, bf-ing, etc, and whatever suits both the baby and the parents ? but very interested to hear from those who loved it and those who hated it! Thanks

SL be careful of dodgy drivers, i can't believe your still able to cycle for both my pregnancies i had to stop quite early as it could bend forward comfortable to the handle bars esp on my road bike. Even for my commuter bike which i had the handle bars raised to accommodate DS's front mounted child seat i still felt really uncomfortable, i think i must have really low babies.

Hi All,

Must be something in the air today here is another me me me post. I am feeling pathetically emotional for no apparent reason.

Think a little walk in the sun at lunch might help cheer me up and I might pick up some choc too.

hey Rosemerta how did your tube skirt go lastnight?

ZJ when you say swaddling blanket do you mean a baby blanket that you wrap the baby up tight in? I wrapped DS up tight, doing it was trick i learnt a work but it's not that hard to do with any blanket you just sort of fold it in at different angles so that they are all tight and snug like in the womb, your MW can show you. DS loved it but i have heard some babies not liking the confinement so best to wait and see what the baby likes.

Sorry for everyone having a bad time at the moment. Turnip: must be so frustrating seeing your father take one step back on this . WG: hope your DH woke up and gave you some TLC.

Not much to report here, busy at work so trying to keep up with posts! Can't make meet-up tonight, but woul dbe up for another weekend N London thing if anyone is interested. Evengins are not good for me atm, all I want to do is head home and curl up on the sofa with DH and a DVD.

I was thinking, as some people's due dates are approaching fast (some of us have longer to wait, gah), would anyone be interested in an email list? TBH a lot of MN is annoying me at the moment so I'm on less than usual, and I know once I'm on ML DS will be taking up most of my attention so computer time will be severely limited. I don;t want to lose touch though, so maybe email would be easier for major stuff like birth announcements (eek!).

I'm happy to co-ordinate if you want to send me your addresses (no need to add RL names or details if you'd prefer not to). You can email me at personal not business at gmail dot com (no spaces). If you're wondering about the address, it's a Godfather reference that seemed like a good idea at the time but is a bugger to type out!

Effie I think a mailing list is a good idea. Will email you.

there you go Effie

wg sorry about your lack of sleep, hope you get a good night tonight

turnip sorry about your dad, I have no experience of that, can only imagine how hard and upsetting it is to deal with along with everything else.

veggie have to say the tube skirt is working really well so far. I've used it for 2 nights and while turning over is still a struggle, my hips aren't hurting as much & my pelvis isn't clicking each time I move either.

zj we did try swaddling with ds but he wasn't keen on it, he would wriggle his way out of it somehow! Its always worth trying though, we will give it another go this time around

effie will email you once yahoo decides to work again!

Sorry if I've missed anyone, hope you're all feeling a little better [hugs]

Hello girls

Big sympathy to everyone feeling rotten at the moment. I think tears, panic, insomnia etc are all par for the course in late pg. Big love to WG - middle of the night is a very bad time to feel low. Hope you feel a bit better today.

I know how it is to be struggling with work Beans and SL - I'd count the number of days left (exc weekends as it's fewer!) and then cross them off. Or put a quid in a jar for each day you get through and then you'll have a fund to buy yourself a nice treat at the start of mat leave!

Turnip - huge sympathies to you my love, I know from experience how difficult it can be to deal with that sort of problem. Is there anything we can do to help?

ZJ- I've not tried swaddling, but both of my girls were summer babies so less need. I'd recommend the sleeping bags though if the swaddling doesn't work for any reason.

Veggie - poor you with your heartburn. I've heard that sipping a glass of cold milk can help. Have you heard that DH has arrived safely? He'll be back before you know it.

Effie - will email you. I tend to stick to this thread and the 10 years younger one, so don't really get caught up in the politics of the rest of it.

LadyT - I was a pants driver and avoided it for years. However, if you can bear it, it will make such a difference to your life. I'm sorry you are feeling a bit lonely in the week as well. My DH does not get home til at least 8.30pm and with all the financial market stuff going on of late, he's not been home til after I've gone to my bed. When are you moving to the country?

If everyone is struggling in the evening, would the london girls fancy a daytime lunch or something? I could do Clapham Junction for the southerners, or venture into town if the N London girls can face it as well. It'd be great to put a few faces to names in advance of the big day.

Hope you all have a good afternoon. I'll be back later to see how everyone is.

oh you just reminded me sometimes having rice milk with Calcium helps. I don't like drinking cows milk straight, i managed it last time by put nesquik in but since i'm now anti-nestle it's a bit tricky but have discovered the rice milk so will have some now, thanks for reminding me.

we are off for a walk in the Autumn sun. DS has gymnastics this afternoon so we are going to walk there and do some errands on the way.

Chutney - I'd definitely be keen for a lunchtime one as of 17th November (am on mat leave from 7th, but then going away for most of the following week) - and around Clapham Junction would be fab for me! Yes please!

Have emailed you Effie

Beans, it's a date! Let's do lunch! (always wanted to say that....) Mondays and Wednesdays best for me as I have the girls the other days and they do rather get in the way of conversation, lovely as they are.

Must go off and do some chores now or DD2 will be awake and i'll have been gossiping for 2 hours without having achieved anything. Oops.

I can usually do Wednesdays as I'm off that day (ML doesn't start till the 10th Dec)