Due Dec 08 - Braxton hicks, baby kicks and leaking nips!

[Veggiemummy]

that was Disenchanted's idea for a great title not mine

Hi Hatty - thanks for the support, I am feeling this so much more than my pregnancy with DD, I feel like all I do is moan! The babies' position isn't great but my acupuncturist who is also a midwife at my hospital said that as it's a second delivery, I could still go for natural delivery even with Twin 1 breach, as long as it's the bum and not the foot . I am doing my best to get them in better positions instead first, but that was nice to know if it doesn't work. With breach delivery I can't get the image out of my head from that thread someone on here linked to about funny birth stories - and one about their first view of baby being it's bottom and a lot of poo shooting out of it. What a way to come in to the world!! When did you stop work with your twins? I'm not sure how I'm going to make it through the next 5 weeks...

poisondwarf: what about 2pm? DS should have had a nap by then, but he's on the erratic side atm. We could meet at the playground or outside, the cafe, whichever you'd prefer (only one of each )

summer - sorry, hope you don't think I'm trying to nag you into changing your mind! Whatever you feel most comfortable with is by far the best option so please ignore me and my big mouth Re noise, well, I'm just hoping our neighbours go away for Christmas as usual...

Thank you everyone for your kind words about my grandad. I'm really okay about it really, he's been ready to go for years if you know what i mean. My mum's not handling it very well though. It's quite worrying really, i lost my dad when i was nearly 7 months pregnant with Ben, and my grandad's gone at the same time with this pregnancy. Mark say's i'm not allowed to get pregnant again!

Beans that lady sounds horrible, and very jealous. I think it's brilliant that you've planned ahead for this, don't let anyone make you doubt yourself

The hospital sent me my pregnancy notes after Bens birth. Is this another thing that varies in different areas?

We're having a homebirth too (i must be one of those uneducated lot! ) I was undecided between the MLBU and a homebirth. The thing that really decided for me was Ben. We've never left him with anyone before, and my mum still lives in London, so if she came to look after him, we'd have to have family staying with us which i really don't want straight away. This way he can go to his godparents next door, and Mark won't be far away if they need him. And i can lumber all over the house shouting at Mark and being unable to stay still for two seconds without feeling a twonk

Hope everyone's having a good day, and enjoy your meet up tonight

well I bought the Gaviscon tablet and...

they are vile

yuck

can;t decide if any more vile than the liquid but the taste seems to last longer

Hatty and maybe Effie too if you can't handle Gaviscon - you can get the New Era tissue salts Veggie recommended here link. I'm taking a different combination of several each month as some homeopaths recommend this in pregnancy - haven't had bad heartburn and my stretch marks seem to have stopped getting worse since I've been taking them but who knows if that's anything to do with it?

so far have only been able to find the new era C remedy online i can't remember which website used but there are a few.

Poison i'm pretty sure you can photocopy as much as you want as long as there is no reference to any other patient or person in your notes. However, i would contact the PALS office anyway before hand just to check your rights, in general most Consultants will not try to stop you doing what you have the right to but i think it would just be good to know yourself what you should be allowed, they may even have a handout or pamphlet that covers your rights so you can show them if necessary. My mum has a photocopy of all 4 of our birth notes which was nice to read while i was pregnant with DS. I have DS's notes but that was through The Birth Center, and it has been nice to look back through them and see how i was doing at certain stages in the pregnancy and read my birth notes

Summer we lived in a small flat with thin walls and that is why i didnt go for a homebirth 1st time around, this time we have bigger place thank goodness and it's comfortable and cosy. but the main advantage apart from all the being in own environment stuff is that the midwives you get to attend you have to have a minimum of 10years experience to go into the community and generally they are very confident at what they do otherwise they wouldn't be there also you won't get any students popping in to have a look or practice anything on you.

Argh, just checked the link, what a tricky website - go to Homeopathy from the main page then click on the New Era Combination Tissue Salts link. I think it was C that Veggie recommended.

Have a lovely weekend everyone.

hey GBB i'm also on the combinations that change each month, next month i'm on the one that includes Nat Mur which makes me really emotional, and thats when DH will be away so expect me to be on here after crying over the NSPCC ads.

Thanks for the tip: might have a look in my local poncy organic shop as it sells a lot of homeopathic stuff.

yeah thats the one.

hatty i wee about 5 times before actually going off to sleep then about 5 times during the night.

oh and has anyone else's DH gone on a health kick? Last time round DH gave up smoking (before I got pg, admittedly) and now he has virtually stopped drinking, eats lots of bananas and muesli bars and gets up at 6am for a run several times a week...

in the meantime I am getting fatter and less mobile

Sorry Effie Did you get the lemon ones? Thinking back they were awful when i first started taking them, i could just handle those better than the liquid, and i've got used to them now.

make sure you get the C one it is in a red & white bottle, there is another one for indigestion in a pink & white bottle but it is not for this type of indigestion.

Hiccy that is so sad you have had your dad & granddad die at the same stage, i feel so sad for you, big veggie hugs, to you and your mum too.

Goodness Veggie I hadn't noticed, maybe it has the same effect on me - I seem OK with the current combo so I'll pay attention to any change when I swap again. I did do a LOT of crying a couple of weeks ago, maybe that was why...

Mine hasn't gone healthy, he keeps going out for beer ... and we used to go mountain biking together loads and now I can't go so much he hardly ever goes. He doesn't seem to be getting fat though. Or maybe he is but his weight gain is paling into insignificance next to mine.

One thing re pregnancy hormones though, I don't know why but at the moment I just think my DH is GREAT! He can do no wrong, and I am dead soppy. To the extent of being pathetic. Haha, he had better make the most of it though as I am sure that when sproggie arrives he will be able to do nothing right

BTW Veggie, how many do you take each day? I'm taking three of each as that's the dosage on the side of the pot but I couldn't remember what my homeopath said.

my DH is constantly healthy we used to be around 10kgs from each other in weight (me less than) then i had DS and we were about 7kg from each other then after before preg this time is was 3kg heavier now i'm so much bigger i can't even wear his shirts over bump like i did last time around the hosue as i will stretch them too much.

Yes that's exactly how I feel hatty - would just like to be able to pore over my notes in my own time - as it is, I'll be very conscious of how much a consultant's time costs, and will feel like I have to ask questions even if I don't need to. If it's the policy that you can't look at them without a consultant present then fair enough but it does strike me as a waste of resources - can't say I've had any difficulty understanding anything I've seen in my notes so far. Thanks for the link GBB - I may end up going down that route although up to £50 sounds a bit steep! I'm annoyed at myself more than anything - just wish I'd been a bit more organised at the time and taken a copy (although would still like to see the labour bit) - I think it'd be lovely to have as a kind of a keepsake anyway like Veggie's mum did. Veggie thanks for the tip on contacting the PALS department - might just do that. I was speaking to a colleage this morning who has given birth to 4 children in 3 different countries and she had no trouble at all in getting her previous notes each time - blimey I only gave birth last year, in the same flippin hospital! I'll shut up now ...

Effie, 2 o'clock tomorrow sounds great. In the playground might be best then at least the LOs can keep amused if either of us is late. Doesn't look like it's going to rain but I will also look for you in the cafe if it does. lowrib have posted on the meet-up thread if you'd like to join us tomorrow (if it's okay by you Effie). In fact if anyone else is local-ish (Hackney) and fancies meeting up then, feel free.

My DP hasn't gone on a health kick but on the other hand he hasn't developed a little pot belly like he did during my last pregnancy (it lasted a couple of months and he's never had one before or since). He's tall and skinny and I thought it was ever so sweet of him to come out in sympathy.

i'm on 4 of each (there are 3 in each month combination) twice a day plus and extra dose of the C one in the middle of the day, thats what the homeopath prescribed. Nat Mur is my migraine remedy as well which i was on before i got pregnant (did the trick too) my migraines were caused by hanging onto emotions from when my dad died when i was 10 so Nat Mur got them out (in a big way one evening) so now they also make me a big more emotional during this pregnancy when i take them but also better able to deal with things if that makes sense.

I am also feeling like DH is the best thing in the world, i have always thought he was great but at the moment i think he is amazing and also can't keep my hands off him, he is good looking with an awesome body but right now he is Brad Pitt to me mixed in with father & husband of the year, 3 years running. He thinks all his Christmases birthdays and new years have come at once.

Veggie thanks - I'll stop worrying about the dose then aand maybe up it too.

Effie/Poison I may well be in Clissold at same time as you tomorrow - I'm 6'3 with shoulder length curly blond mop and a three yr old strawberry blonde/ginger DD if you fancy saying hello.

wow GBB you are tall!!! i now have an imagine of you as leggy blonde and nothing you can say about large bumps will make me think otherwise. In fact in my head you are all slender gorgeous mother-goddesses.

Yes, all welcome . Will look out for you GBB. DS will prob be the shouty one hanging off his reins...

GBB thanks for indigestion link. That's fantastic that your hospital are supportive about you not having to have a section with twin 1 breech - mine gave me no choice but I guess it was first delivery...

I worked up until 34 weeks, but am lucky enough to work from home. I was commuting about 3 hour round trip a day twice a week in my last pregnancy but fantastic boss let me stop coming in at about 30 weeks...

I am very jealous of you all meeting in the park . Would love to bring along my DDs for a play.

Am sooooooo uncomfortable the last few hours. No idea what position the baby is in but its throwing all its weight forward so I am practically toppling over!

The only way I can sit comfortably at my desk is to arch my back backwards over the back of the chair with my bump half under the desk! Will be intrigued to see how its lying, if they can figure it out at my antental appt next week.

Hatty - mine's in a weird position too - feels like it's right up under my ribs on the right. Keep having to arch backwards too. Chocolate. That's what we need.