Due Nov 2008 - PMA - our tums & bums are growing but we get an excuse to wear big knickers - now that's a stroke of luck!!! x x x

[ChocOrange05]

Hope you like the thread - minds not working so well at the moment!

Thanks for all your lovely words of support.

We are not going to sil's, with measles.
We are going to visit mil instead.
She is a sweetie and we will have fish and chips on clacton beach.
I bought school uniform for ds yesterday. He refuses to take it off. We have been trying it on. Learning to do buttons. And a tie ( yes our school has a tie, right from day 1 - stupid idea). Ds LOVES IT.
We are now off to the library and swimming.

Dh phoned to say that he loves me and I love him. I am sorry . He is too. We will look after eachother more. And pay ds more attention.

Will be back in a few days.

Oh Obs, have a great time with your family xxx

oh, meant to say Hi to expectingagril

congrats on your pregnancy and welcome to our "wee" thread.

Bugger yorky, looks like I've missed an opportunity. But, we'll see you there tomorrow! I'm aiming to get there for 10 so I can get my goody bag

thread was probably deleted as they put it in the wrong section or hadn't paid for a small business ad or something. I'll email and get on the mailing list for next year, if they are organising it again. I can do Usbourne books on one end of my table and nappies on the other

Hi Autumnlady...sorry to hear your ligaments are still dodgy. I'm with you in full empathy mode .

I have a sore boob! It feels like a blocked duct/start of mastitis and the areola is very sore and tender. Can you get blocked ducts at this stage? maybe TMI, but I can express a bit if colostrum so I suppose it's possible

hello!

Obs Hope you have a lovely weekend!

hello to the new ladies

yorky V. jealous of your trip to Harrogate - is my home town! I haven't been back since Christmas so haven't seen my lovely mum for 8 months

OMIGOD!!! dh just phoned - has been given lovely big payrise OMIGOD!!!!!

Looks like we may get a trip up north soon ourselves now

Yorky sorry - wanted to say good luck with the stall

sorry about your sore boob lacks

gosh i know, im finding it hard reading everything, i think its the way its set out maybe, lol, dont know, but ive never been the brightest spark..
any1 from leeds?

hey everyone. big hugs to all you lovely women and those precious little babies you're carrying with you.

Just wanted to say how amazing I think you (we) all are with all we have to deal with as women; the home and work and children and families and money and friends and schools and life (and weight!)...... parenting is the hardest thing ever and the role of the mother is just huge and amazing and stressful and scary but so rewarding (ok so it often doesn't feel it!).

I think all we need to keep us going is to feel appreciated and loved just a little now and again - if only our dp's realised!

and in less than 3 months we're gonna have new babies - woweeee

Hi everyone, sorry to hear a lot of us are having some tough times lately. It's all part of the territory, I think. I've missed out on a bit because dd and I went to my parents on Tuesday and I was suppose to come home that night but I got too tired and ended up staying til yesterday afternoon.

Oblomov Hope you are feeling better. Enjoy your weekend. Dh and I have had some serious ups and downs since dd came along. I try to stay positive about things and tell myself the tough times won't last forever. Pregnancy and small children do take their toll on a relationship but bring such happiness too.

I went to see my friend's new baby yesterday. He is a week old now and so beautiful. When I came home I said to dh that I am so glad I am pregnant because seeing the baby made me realise I really want one asap and I would hate to have to wait nine months! My friend is doing fine, a bit sore from her section and worrying about all the usual first time things but they seem really content. You can tell her dh is very proud even though he doesn't say much.

Welcome to the new members.

Hello everyone.

Have just come back from the hospital where I was having a 28 week scan. Everything is okay, even if the baby does have a huge nose! However, MonkeyMargot I think we can forget about the name James as we think the sonographer inadvertantly told us the sex. She said to us "she's happy", but then following this and DH and mines exchange of looks started using the word baby.

I don't know, it's possible when she said she, she was addressing me. I don't know.

Both my husband and I would like a girl for our first. People keep having a go at me for being honest/thinking differently, saying it doesn't matter as long as the baby is healthy (is there a book out there with standard phrases we should all believe). Forgive us, but we would like a girl and I don't think it's anything to be ashamed of admitting because we both want a large family and so a boy at some point will happen, well unless DH can only produce girls!

I'm in work at the moment and the girl next to me is in a right mood because I'm honest in wanting this to be a girl (which it sounds like we've acheived - well done DH) and because I've admitted to being totally ambivalant towards the whole pregnancy/birth.

I'm not thrilled about being pregnant, nor am I unhappy about it. I desperately wanted a baby and had trouble conceiving as I have PCOS. I'm not scared about the birth, I'm not worried about being a mother etc. All the things the majority of other mums to be are probably feeling.

I just think it's who I am. I don't worry. I don't get stressed. I just deal with things as and when they happen.

The things people say to me really get to me, but I never have a go at them like they do me as I believe that they have every right to belive/think differently and thanks to freedom of speech verbalise their thoughts. What gets to me is that there seems to be no room for thoughts/beleives that don't fit into the norm or whats considered norm.

This is rather profound for just gone past noon isn't it. I'm sorry. I must sound like such a weirdo.

Whats wrong with wanting a girl first time around?
Whats wrong with not feeling one way or the other about pregnancy/birth?
Whats wrong with wanting a home birth?
Whats wrong with wanting an active and drug free labour/birth?
Whats wrong with wanting to follow the continum concept?
Whats wrong with wanting to carry the baby in a sling and not wanting a pushchair straight away.
Whats wrong with working right up until the birth?

Maybe if people would put aside all this rubbish they've been reading which says all pregnant women think/act this way then maybe my thoughts/actions wouldn't suprise them so damn much.

Sorry for the long rant, I'm a loner and very antisocial and don't like people at the best of times. Right now I just don't want to be around anyone.

Again sorry for the rant.

Oh by the way, going back to the hospital tomorrow for glucose tolerance test, anti-D injection and appointment with the consultant.

Thankfully I don't have work tomorrow so won't have to listen to petty minded peoples thoughts.

I'll update tomorrow.

Is there anyone on this thread who is also ambivalant about the whole pregnancy/birth thing?

As I said in my previous post, I did and do want this baby so much and had problems so it took us a while.

i'm in Leeds expecting and there are a couple of others from around abouts as well.

We definately need to sort out a northern meet-up since London are organising afternoon tea. We can all go to Betty's in Harrogate

MrsRigby, gotta dash so can't give your post the full weight it deserves, but all of the things you have on your list are normal imo. the ambivalence is very common, especially with a first time pregnancy, as is the not enjoying it. But, we are programmed to think that we should all be jumping for joy at being pregnant and not being so is seen as weird or unmaternal. From my experience with DS, unplanned and felt really quite weird all through it, I loved the very bones of him from the minute I saw him. We are all different and all take things in our strides in different ways. Will chat more later. DD is awake and I still haven't had a shower today so it looks like bathtime for the both of su

MrsR...do a search on here of the archives; there have been lots of threads covering ambivalence which you may find reassuring. I think (although tell me if I'm talking out of turn), given that this was a much longed for baby, you are probably feeling a little guilty that you aren't jumping for joy . Try not to worry, it is normal and common.

right gotta go

Oh I forgot to add, both DH and I are committed vegetarians (and just to remind everyone vegetarians do not eat fish as fish is also meat) and are going to bring our baby/child up as a vegetarian also.

Oh well, you want to hear what people have to say about that and the expressions on their faces.

In fact, its a wonder social services haven't already been called to take the baby once its been born as I'm obviosuly such an evil person and will make a very bad mother. I'l probably end up killing my child through not feeding it meat.

2008 - I don't think so, we're obviously still living in the sodding dark ages.

Thanks LackaDAISYcal, your not speaking out of term and what you've said has been helpful.

I do feel guilty about the way I feel all the time, but no one seems to understand.

DH is REALLY annoying me at the moment, the nesting thing has bypassed me and hit him, bless. He wants the whole house clean and decorated before the baby arrives. We moved in, in September 2007 and still haven't completely unpacked! I'm a complete slob. He's completely right of course, it's just the way he's speaking to me and ordering me about.

He's actually more lovely than what I make him sound. He's a wonderful husband and I'm lucky to be married to him. He takes care of me like no one else ever has.

Anyway, this talking/posting on mumsnet helps. Thanks.

Off to have lunch - vegetarian bolegnaise and baked potato, which DH kindly cooked for me last night. He'll make a wonderful father.

Sorry about the spelling, I'm actually a better speller when I'm not ranting.

Hi all

Can't keep up with all your chatter! Was off work yesterday as not feeling all that great. Was nothing in particular just a bit achy/coldy/tired etc and just couldn't get up and get ready for work. Luckily my bosses are brilliant and have just told me not to worry and if I feel like that then just stay at home and rest - see, some Politicians are nice, honestly

DrsWife - have posted your book today, sorry for the late posting again! Hope you're feeling a bit brighter and nice to have you back on line.

Vbab - I totally sympathise with you and understand what you're gong through as I am experiencing something similar. My DH has actually moved out at the moment as he's 'not ready for all this' and needs some 'space to think'. Mind you, he comes back every morning for a shower and change of clothes and a nicely ironed work shirt so he's not entirely suffering. Am v with him for being so rubbish when I need him most and for upsetting me so much and I feel the same as you describe - I love him but don't know quite why. I have got MIL and FIL involved and FIL is fuming with him and totally on my side, which is nice to know. I just worry he's having a breakdown or something but really don't have the time or energy to devote much thought to it if I'm honest. Grrr, could do without it.

Sorry for spilling all this out to you all but it's part of the reason I've not been writing as much as I used to. Also our connection at home has gone down again and not back for another 2 weeks!

Rant over. Hope you are all doing better!

xx

MrsRigby poor you - you sound a bit down today. Well don't know if I can help you out but as for my thoughts:

Wanting a girl - who cares, thats your choice - I assume you wouldn't drown it at birth if it were a boy (hope ) but you are allowed to have a preference!

Home birth - again, this is opinionated people who don't know what they are talking about and want to live with the view that childbirth is a medical condition as opposed to a completely natural process that has been going on since the dawn of time (well, human time!) I have found that most people who are open minded actually accept the benefits of a HB once they understand the good reasons for them. Either way, it is a choice, some people feel comfortable in a hospital environment and others feel happy at home - its your decision and people who don't accept that make me !

Vegetarianism - well I think you are crazy but thats cause I love meat ! And as for wanting your child to be veggie, again its your choice so do what you think is right! I think its completely fine to be a veggie as long as you are getting all the food groups you need. Although some people's bodies can't cope without meat (my stepdad was a veggie who kept getting ill and the homeopath told him to start eating meat and since then he's hardly been ill in 12 years!) it is something millions of people choose to do.

I hope you get my ranting on your behalf - life is all about choices, there are good ones and bad ones and your choices fall into neither category for everyone, but as long as they are right for you then thats whats important.

But now, I want you to read the post title and remember our PMA attitude - so get that smile on your face, eat some chocolate and remember its Friday tomorrow!!!

Blimey, what is wrong with all these men?!

Autumlady - that must be so hard, really annoys me that they think they have the right to 'think about things' whilst you're busy having to get on with it. You sound very strong.

Autumnlady I hope you are not ironing his bloody shirts!!! I am really sorry you are having to cope on your own at the moment, and at your DH on your behalf. for you and hope things get better soon! x

AL, sorry to hear about things with your DH and i hope that you can get things resolved soon.

unfortunatley a lot of men have major wobbles when their wives/partners are pregnant, especially if it wasn't exactly planned or happened ahead of schedule (it is you who is only recently married isn't it?)

I hope that this is all it is from your DH's POV and that a few days away will help him sort himself out. And fwiw, I think you were right to get his parents involved; it's their grandchild after all.

{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}} to you lovely

(PS, If you want to chat off board, my email is daisybump @ yahoo dot co dot uk)

Thanks Roca, I don't feel very strong but I did raise that point that I don't have the luxury of having time and space to think about things as I am carrying a lovely little boy who deserves all the love in the world! I think being pg has actually calmed me down somewhat as I used to be a very 'shouty' person and now I'm not so much.

Welcome MrsRigby - sorry I didn't say that before! I'm a veggie too and thin kit is entirely your choice whether or not you bring your LO up in the same way. I have decided that I will give my bump meat as DH eats meat but will also introduce him to veggie foods too. I agree with ChocOrange - these things are personal choices and as long as your LO is getting the right nutrients then there's nothing wrong with having that diet. Ignore others when they give you their opinion as it is just that, their opinion.

x

Thanks for the hugs Choc and Daisy, I really need those right now

It's not me that's only just got married, we've been together 10 years and married for 2 and kids have always been on the agenda. This bump was unplanned and totally unexpected but DH was fine about it up until about 2 months ago, so I'm not sure what actually changed????

Am very to say that - yes, I am ironing his shirts still!!

Thanks for your email addy Daisy, I'll take you up on that!

Oh dear everyone is sounding very down at the minute, it must be 3rd trimester blues!!!!

autumnlady sorry to hear you are dealing with this on your own at the minute, hope everything gets sorted out for you

doctorswife you sound a bit lonely at the minute, have you looked into local mother & baby groups, aquanatal classes etc you could maybe go along to meet some of the local mums/mums to be and continue once baby is here?

mrsrigby I dont think there is anything wrong with how you feel about any of the issues you raise, they are your feelings and nothing to do with anyone else! You mentioning about being vegetarian which does mean you also dont eat fish made me as DH is vegetarian and he also gets annoyed by people who say they are veggie but they eat fish!!!!!

Hope some of chocoranges PMA rubs off on everyone

Autumnlady You should be - I would like a promise right here, right now that you are not going to even touch another one of his shirts (unless maybe to rub in a little itching powder !! (yes, I know I'm bossy!) My DH and I are fine and I don't even iron his shirts!