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Due in June thread 6

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charleypops · 01/02/2005 13:52

All I can say right now is AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

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katzguk · 07/02/2005 13:41

i think that the giving birth is birth dependent, i don't expect to get off as lightly this time as i did last time. My labour with DD although unusal was great!

waters broke 2am on tues 8th oct
hospital check 9 am weds 9th (baby fine but no contractions)
arrived hospital 9.30am 10th, hormone drip applied at 11.30am DD born 4.20pm!!

can i just add that one the 9th i was wandering round mothercare finishing off getting the bits for my hospital bag!

katzguk · 07/02/2005 13:42

lipstick - maybe i should have posted my birth later

Lua · 07/02/2005 13:49

I agree with you Katz, I expect I will pay dearly this time for the easy birth with DD. This pregnancy is certainly already harder in my body!

Jonah, I have two cats on top of the dog. They were fine with the baby, and they really had no desire whatsoever to get near DD so I wasn't worried about them at all. I had toxoplasmosis test both times, and they came negative, so I am also with you that you would have developed something already if you had it ( they are indoor cats though!). I actually get more worried about the dog bringing something from the yard with nasty stuff in.

charleypops · 07/02/2005 13:59

Katz - i can imagine the toe wiggling working a bit (hope so anyway)

lol Lua at your wimpiness - you sound like my dp! Thanks for posting your experience - please tell me you're small and have a narrow pelvis!

Tea re the "bloody ball" - your poor mw!

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Uwila · 07/02/2005 14:31

I'm back from lunch (my favourite time of day ).

Oh oh, how can I briefly and politely state my view without getting on my soapbox... Well, let's just say that those attitudes to which Weshie refers on mumsnet (where you will find the name Uwila defending the caesarean section to the hill!) are what I am talking about. But neither they start nor will they end on Mumsnet.

The midwives and health visitors whom I have come in contact with posess these traits. The first time round, I just accepted the system and followed their advise. Second time round, am wiser. I know what I want, I demand the hospital of my choice, and I if I have a real medical question about this pregnancy, I want to talk to an obstetrician. Midwives are good for routine questions. But my questions tend to beof a more serious and technical nature. I want it all explained to me. And, midwives always say one of two following thing "ask the GP" or "ask the consultant".

And if you think I got up on my soapbox.... well, only a little bit. I could say so much more, but I've probably offended half the thread already.

Lua · 07/02/2005 14:36

Charley, I wouldn't say I am big or that I have hips to make babies...
But I am no elf either...

Lua · 07/02/2005 14:40

Uwila, I am sorry someone has made you feel bad about your choice.
There are no questions CS sections has saved many lives, so it would be just senseless to be against them.
I have to say in my case, I had the opposite problem. Nurses just wouldn't let me alone and kept on insisting that I should have some drug, and that I needed monitoring. Drove me crazy! I eventually just ran off to the bathroom and left them talking to themselves!

Here is a toast that we all get what we want and need, that we make the best informed choice, and we have lovely healthy babies that sleep by 4 weeks!

katzguk · 07/02/2005 14:45

i was very lucky with DD's birth and should be again,as i've mentioend before i have a wonderful midwife scheme of the same person all the way through PG birth and beyond! this meant that they was no pushing to give drugs and my midwife apologised after because she hadn't had time to fetch me a birth ball!!

katzguk · 07/02/2005 14:46

have to add C section have there place if i needed one i wouldn't hestitate but i'm planning a vaginal birth.

charleypops · 07/02/2005 14:49

Uwila - you've not offended me at all! I might end up with one anyway. What's the point of being a human if we can't take advantage of technological advancements?

If it weren't for you and your "soapbox" (lol) I might still be having my baby at St P's and never met the lovely mvs at the Royal x

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teabelly · 07/02/2005 14:51

Lua amen to healthy bubs that sleep through after 4 weeks!

Uwila, it's not just c-secs, it's breastfeeding, co-sleeping, disposables vs washables, GF vs baby wisperer...infact all the choices we make along the way...and I quite agree each to their own...we should be able to make our own choices and have our own opinion without being castigated for it...along with discovering how quickly things progressed with ds, after the event, I also discovered after the event (as I'm sure I've said before) that if 2nd stage was to be longer than 5 hours I'd have been given a c-sec due to my hole in the heart...pity no-one told me or I'd have insisted on that option straight away...and lucky too I guess that it was 7 mins short of the 5 hours!!!

Uwila · 07/02/2005 15:23

I just think that there is so much push (pardon the pun!) to have babies "naturally" that it leaves women feeling like they've failed in there role as a woman somehow when they choose to have an elective caesarean. I think that it leaves first time mums with unrealistic expectations of labour and delivery. What they should say in antenatal classes and this goes for NHS as well as NCT is that this will be the most excrutiatingly painful experience of your life. However bad you think it will be, it is so much worse. And, they should be a bit more honest about the recovery from such delightful things as tears, broken tail bones, broken pelvis, etc. I think that stuff, although rare, is part of an INFORMED DECISION. True, it is rare. But it does happen and women should be told about it when they are told about the bad things about caesareans.

When's the last time you heard someone praise a woman who had a caesarean? But, when a woman suffers excrutiating long painful labor, people say things like "good for you." or "Wow, respect." I think I have respect for the woman who can endure this (when it is her own choice and not because of medical staff talking her into it), but I also have to admit that there a small part of me that want's to say "masochistic lunatic".

Charley, I swear this is not my day to freak you out (now that I've moved on from the dog and new baby topic), but there is a childcare thread with posting from a user (majorstress) she is going through really painful problems now that result from childbirth and a tilted pelvis. I thought of you when she said this. If I were you, I'd check out her thread and possibly ask some questions.

HAve I said too much yet?

Uwila · 07/02/2005 15:34

Charley, if you are interested in the thread I mentioned in my last post, start at her 02 Feb 11:17 am post.

Uwila · 07/02/2005 16:29

Oh no.... it's gone all quiet. I hope I'm not a thread killer.

It would be some feat to kill this thread.

Welshie what's your caesarean story with your DD1?

teabelly · 07/02/2005 16:34

Uwila, you're not a thread killer...the boss came and sat in our section had to suddenly look busy and get off the internet for while!

Uwila · 07/02/2005 17:20

The trouble with having nothing to do at work is that I say too much on MSN. Jeez I have opinions about everything. I found a caesarean thread to go toot my horn on. So you guys can be spared...

Hope every had alovely afternoon, and I really do hope I didn't upset anyone while I was up on my soapbox.

charleypops · 07/02/2005 17:30

Is no one besides me wanting a waterbirth here? Why?

No, you didn't kill the thread Uwila - I did end up reading practically the whole of the thread you linked to though which took ages - I've been doing my pelvic floor excersises ever since! (and learned a few things about employing au pairs too!) I'm going to see if the doc will send me to a specialist to have a look at my pelvis when I go about the constipation thing.

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LipstickMum · 07/02/2005 17:50

It did go quiet didn't it? I personally, was out trying to find a pair of maternity jeans - no luck.

Nothing to do with you and your soapbox I'm sure Uwila, we all have them.

charleypops · 07/02/2005 17:59

Hi Lippy,

I'm watching these on ebay

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Tessiebear · 07/02/2005 18:09

Charleypops - I am planning a waterbirth too!!
I had one with DS2 and it was really good (well as good as labour CAN get!!)
Basically i went into the water as soon as i got into the birthing unit at about 2.30 in the morning (think i was about 5 -6 cm at this point)
Labour progressed quite quickly from when i was in the water, i also had gas and air. At about 4.15 i felt the urge to push and 1 push and he was out!!! He also came out REALLY clean lol!!! THey then got me out to deliver the afterbirth and in the mean time they re-filled the water pool. Then i got back in to clean off and the midwife washed my hair for me!! I pressume DH must have been holding DS at this point (i think i was a bit out of it on the gas and air!!) All in all it was a good experience

LipstickMum · 07/02/2005 18:18

Hiya Charley, stupid designer jeans made for skinny models the shop I went to, an outlet store, only had up to size 26, or something daft. I tried on a 29 which was actually ok waist wise but the leg was far too tight and of course the obligatory 6" too long!!!

I planned a waterbirth for dd. But, my birth didn't go to plan and I ended up with quite a lot of un-planned intervention. I haven't given birth that much thought tbh it will also depend on what position this one is in and how well things go. As I didn't dilate last time, I couldn't really have what I wanted. I'd definitely choose it this time round if it looks like I'll be in and out in 6 hours

LipstickMum · 07/02/2005 18:20

I think I'll just get some sodding jeans from the high street and get fancy designer ones that I can wear for longer when I am a skinny model again Ha!!!! lol

charleypops · 07/02/2005 18:28

Tessie - your waterbirth sounds lurvely - particularly the bit about the mw washing your hair. Think I'll put that in my birth plan - what the hell, I might as well request an Indian head massage while I'm at it

Lippy, I'm suprised you find legs on jeans too long - you're not exactly short are you? Of course I have that problem all the time! I could make about a dozen pairs of jeans from all the 6 inches or so I have to chop off over the years I know what you mean though about "designer" cuts - they are all modelled on catwalk models I'm sure , however, I understand the Sevens are quite a good cut for shorties.

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charleypops · 07/02/2005 18:39

Lippy - the times I've tried to buy high street jeans! It just doesn't work for me. Also, where the hell do you buy maternity jeans that are a "real" size 8?? the "8s" I tried on in Formes absolutely drowned me. Boys jeans are a slightly better cut - but they're hard to find in my size, and obviously you can't get boy's maternity jeans Even when not pg, I could never find any - they're all too big/too baggy round the hips or thighs/too mumsie/too high waisted/too artificially washed etc ..... I've become so phobic of going to buy jeans, the last pair I bought was well over a year ago (and I didn't particularly like them), the time before that was nearly 3 years before .

So good luck on your quest. Personally, I think you'd look nice in the trousers I bought at Formes. In fact I'd recommend them to anyone who's preggers.

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katzguk · 07/02/2005 18:48

i wanted a water labour (going to do the birth bit on land!) with DD but because of being induced couldn't, so this time i'm going to go with the flow my birth plan will simply read NO STUDENTS!!