Due in June thread 6

[charleypops]

All I can say right now is AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

Katz toe wiggling?? I'm intrigued - not one they mentioned in my antenatal classes

I had a epidural too, and I think they're fab...if it slowed things down I didn't notice coz ds was out in under 5 hours (2 hours after epidural first administered)...and I only fear this one coming quicker and not having enough time for another epidural!!

Big ben eh, Welshie, you little rascal...you should have got one - if nothing else they make dh/p's less 'cocky' pardon the pun!!

TMI WARNING Lippy I'm sure there's other things that get you 'moving' but the orgasm is definitely the best way I've found so far...and as for little ones, I don't think it bothers them...although it can put you off your moment if they start wriggling and kicking just before, he he he!

Ahh Welshie, that's too sweet! Charley sometimes snorts over mine!

Thanks for the tips on conjunctivitis! I have been washing each eye seperately with warm water, but I'll try the tea idea Lua!! Sadly no breastmilk on offer here... yet.

You think caesarians get a bad wrap Uwila? I personally don't think they are 'bad' and have never really got that impression. If they're necessary, they are life-saver. I suppose what may have given them a bad press is all the "too posh to push" celebrity mums..?

Charley, nice!

Welshie, bless her! My ds presses his nose against my bump and says 'hello mummy's baby I'm Lukie', love him!

Lippy I think some people on other threads on MSN can be very judgemental about c-sections. I've certainly felt that - that might be what Uwila means.

tea - i announced about 2 hrs into my labour that i din't want an epidural because i was wiggly and flexing my toes which really helped with the contractions and if i had an epidural then i wouldn't have been able to feel and move my toes therefore the contractions would be worse, thankfully neither the midwife nor DH were stupid enough to mention that with an epidural there would be no pains and therefroe no need to wiggle toes!!! DH still teases me now about it

LMAO Tea!!

Wow Katz, I knew breastmilk had super powers, but getting rid of eye infections is prettty impressive. I will have to remember that.

Interestingly re giving birth on your back. That's how I deliverd dd, although I had little choice as I could barely feel my legs. Before the birth of course I scoffed at this un-empowering, old-fashioned method of delivery, an active birth for me!! But at the time, it was pretty easy, I was very relaxed and could concentrate totally on pushing and not supporting myself.

Charlie, definitely keep up the music thing. I always listened to music with dd and (even though I say it myself) she is really musical; constantly singing and dancing. When I hear a song I like on the radio I turn it up loud and she comes running in and we dance together, then she runs off to get her favourite toy cat and we all carry on dancing. It's so cute!

DD and i often share a bath at night she she insists on washing the baby bump, she got a suprise last night because the bump kicked back and now all she talks about is the wiggly bump!

Ah, I see Welshie. You haven't done it 'properly' if you don't push baby out, that kind of attitude..?

Hi All,

So much to catch up with....

Scraggy, I'm not finding out the sex either, although I'm convinced its a boy. I'm all "up front", rather than spread round the sides(its an old wives tale, but hey, its fun).

Pink, I'm on a chilli diet as well. I just love them too much to give them up, although they give me chronic indigestion. My DH and I are big curry/thai fans, so junior better get used to it.....

Charley, love the idea of a dog bed, but I feel its my duty to point out that any self-respecting dog, given the choice between a dogbed and a human bed will always pick the human version. I've got the cat issue. everyone looks at me like i'm a terrible to-be mother when I say my cat sleeps on my pillow, but i've read a little about the bugs you can get from cats and I think if I was going to be a carrrier, it would have happened years ago. Luckily, this cat isn't a jumper. The last one we had was (sadly died. DH and I are still in serious mourning) and that was going to be a worry with a baby. Like you say, I suspect that at the first sign of a baby crying or unpredictable jerking and the cat will scarper as fast as her little fat legs will carry her (she's a heinz, but looks like a less evil version of the James Bond cat)...

Lippy bless her.

Charley - it's not music that you want to play to the little one it's the theme tunes of your favorite programmes...that way when your ds is here he'll calm down and sleep each time your programme comes on the telly!!! I kid you not this works...ds always calms down (even now) when Corrie or Enders is on the box (guess what I was mostly watching when pd last time, he he he)

pd...pd?? PG I mean...

Katz - no you're right no-one dares contradict a woman in labour if they know what's good for them, he he he.

Haha! Tea, you are onto something there!!! Theme tunes to soaps, that'll piss dp off The children are cute aren't they, it's so nice that your ds can actually talk to and has some understanding of 'the bump', kissing etc, it's too cute. My dd says "baby" and points to the bump, but I think she means my navel Although she doesn't call hers "baby" so maybe she's brighter than I give her credit for!

that was labour-logic for you but then i'm sure the lack of drugs helped me to recover sooo quickly when my mum arrived an hour after DD was born she couldn't believe i'd only just given birth!

Lippy - Dp won't come near me - he feel weird about "it" now I'm pg - I'm not too bothered though tbh... Good for you not passing your nervousness on to your dd - I've seen mum (and dads) FREAK near a dog - which of course makes the child freak, which in turn makes the dog freak - it really 's me. Your dd will understand the "mixed" messages eventually - all kids should learn that not all dogs can be approached, and to ask the owner first. I wouldn't let mine anywhere near your neighbour's either!

Katz - what a great tip re wiggling toes, I 'll have to remember that one!

Hi Jonah - yes, there's no way Charley would sleep on a traditional dog bed - that's why we're having to get him a Junior/kids bed Sorry you lost your dcat

Tea - another great tip - I very rarely miss my soaps, so, fingers crossed the same will happen here

charley and anyone else whos interested - re the toe wiggling i found by scrunching them up and loosening them and really concentrating on doing it it really helped to take my mind off of the contractions although my toes did ache the next day, thankfully i only had 4½ hrs of contraction!

Awwww Charley, poor dp! Does he feel like he might 'hurt' Podrick ? My dp never had that problem...

I do tell dd that certain dogs are ok to stroke etc and some dogs don't want to be. So, I hope she takes some of it in and it wont be as confusing as I think it could.

Jonah, I was 'all bump' last time, didn't look pg if you saw me from behind etc. but I had a dd... those old wives and their tales!

Oh god yeah Katz imagine if you'd have had 9+ hours of it!!! It sounds tempting, but my epi experience was very good (even with my absolute fear of needles) so I'll definitely try for that option if poss...however if things move too fast I'll keep the toe wiggling in mind...although judging from the language I was spouting until the epi took effect last time I may have to concentrate more on not swearing sooo much or sooo loud

LOL at having a high pain treshold! I am a awimp!! I take a paracetomol at the first inkling there is aheadache coming, and claim I will die when I get a cold! I think my decision was mostly due being really scared of that huge needle in my spine. I know the chances of something going wrong with it are small, but then the chances of something going wrong with my spine without it is zero, so that was more reassuring.
Pain is such a weird thing isn't? I don't know why I could put up with it easily. I think it had to do with knowing exactly what was going to happen and knowing that was a temporary thing. I think is much harder to deal with it when you don't know what is and how long will be for. If I panick, I just can't handle anything. But honestly, for me it was like intense period pains, but better because it did give me a minute in between to relax!

I think the reason all american births you see end up with women in their backs is because of the epidurals. As Lippy said, if you can't feel your legs you don't have much choice...

Dd was posterior, so I had a long, back achey ordeal.

Contractions began on Wednesday after lunch, cons increased to every 2+ minutes all night, but no dilation.

I went to hospital and was admitted on Thursday morning, still contracting every 2 mins ish, no dilation.

Thursday night epi and synto - bliss!!

Friday morning (6) dd born.

I hope it's easier next time!!!!

That kind of thing exactly Lippy. I think that however you do it - well done you and wouldn't dream of having a go at anyone for any decision they made like that.

Lippy poor you! I had waters go 6 am trickled - I expected a gush so presumed I'd just wet myself contractions started 6.30ish pm, unbearable pains 40mins later, agreed to epi @ 9.30pm after gas and air did nothing much, ds out 11.13pm. Later discovered I'd gone from 2cm dil to @ 8cm in 20mins(mw couldn't check properly coz of flailing arms/legs and v. bad language everytime she came near me or suggested I bounce up and down on a bloody ball to 'make it all better dear')...I'm sure I got the epi to shut me up...but it worked

God!!! Women who 'just' pop babies out in, like 5 hours!!!! #mutter, mutter#