Scan you see it yet? Due in Jan 09

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Am keeping us in antinatal rather than in preganancy so newbies can find us! Have posted for tink on her thread.

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The second one said girl for me but when i tried it for DS it said girl too!

1st said boy 2nd said girl for me
i have been @ my mums today for a bbq

If the pains in your leg/groin are shooting pains rather than aching pains it could be sciatica blot4 - I get that when pregnant, it is something to do with nerves getting trapped iirc. Apparently it isn't technically caused by pregnancy but I only seem to get it when pg.

FLF I would ask your midwife or GP about the digestive problems - it might be something they know how to sort out. Are your iron levels ok? That can make you tired and upset your bowels a bit. It could also be related to taking supplements - the pregnancy supplements upset me and make me constipated. I just take straight folic acid instead.

ah lenni - you may be right. i'm taking pregnacare and esp. when not eating much am finding them rather 'strong'. took spa tone last time and got pre-eclampsia and then read iron supplements can make it worse. grr. I think I'll follow your advice and talk to the midwife, haven't eaten proper for a week and am losing weight (still quite chunky though ). just worried as am bf'ing dd too.

it sounds like sciatica, i had it with my first pregnancy really bad and not so bad with my second. i couldnt climb stairs or get out of bed at one point and i am usually a very active person (hockey, netball, running etc) so it was a shock not being able to moove. this time i have already had the twinges down one leg and am expecting it to be bad with twins. if you go to the doctor they can book you into the physio. it really helped me, mine was so bad i was signed off work for two weeks. i had a twisted pelvis trapping a nerve. i think in my case it is made worse by me sleeping on one side. as it twists my pelvis, i am now sleeping with a v-shaped pillow under my bump and between my legs, it does help as it stops the twisting. also i was told by the doctor to sit on a pilates ball instead of the sofa (same as a birthing ball but costs half as much) that helped as well.
the physio did some twisting and shoving and gave me a belt to wear and i was back at work the following week.

FLF you really are sounding in the wars with this one. ((hugs))IS it so much harder second time around isn't it. I'd have a good chat with the midwife about everythig and I'd also mention to her that you are still b/f DD - your body is programmed not to deplete nutrients from the developing baby or the breastmilk so if you are low in anything it is you who is affected most. Is DD feeding a lot?

Sorry that was meant to be 'It is so much harder second time around isn't it?'
Bedtime.

hello ladies... took the gender test and both times said i was having a boy. i'm pretty sure it is. i've known forever that my first born would be a boy. we've been calling 'little henry' the whole time.

for belly butter i've been using mama bee's belly butter and it's fab. has actually softened previous stretch marks when i was fat. it is simply lovely. don't know where you'd get it in London. you might find it at john lewis as they have other burt's bees stuff or there is a children clothing and accessories store somewhere... down the road from sloan square tube.

not having any unusual dreams, well not any more unusual than before. last night though i woke myself up laughing so hard. DH said he didn't want to wake me because it sounded as though i was having a great time. must have been.

Thanks Lenni I will get everything checked out. It does seem harder this time round, mainly due to the lack of sleep I think.

I'm feeling a bit better today, and it seems DD has dropped the morning feed over the last three days (was doing morning and night) so only have 1 feed left. Maybe because I was ill the milk changed, maybe because she has just started walking and her independence has changed her needs. Very sad, but probably excellent given the circs.

Chef, Heals and planet organic also stock the Burts stuff in London.

What a lovely, sunny day {smile].

morning

hope u get everything sorted @ the drs
it is lovely and sunny here 2

Morning all,

blot4, yes a friend of mine mentioned SPD as she had it when she was pregnant.

It could be sciatica although it's not just the shooting pain, that only happens when it's really bad. The bone that you sit on at the bottom of your spine really hurts when i sit down on hard chairs. I had it just after dd was born, i think i damaged it when pushing dd out. The pain went away but now it's back

Nightmare about the wedding cake. The bride told me on Friday she was pregnant. She is only in the early stages and no one else knows. The groom told me that ever since she found about my pregnancy, that's all she gone on about so i suspect her pregnancy was brought on due to mine! Either through jealously or i don't know but i feel like she is going to steel alittle bit of my thunder even though she is 3 months behind me!

Well i am not getting into competitions with her, i can't be bothered. I was thinking of going to Southampton today as they have a big Mothercare there although i am too small for maternity clothes and too big for normal clothes

Sparkle, it doesn't have to be a competition; its lovely being pregnant at the same time as your friend as it gives you another dimension to your friendship, as well as being on maternity leave together! Having said that, I did have a friend who was pregnant at the same time, who I couldn't bear to talk about babies with (still can't!). Did make me re-evaluate the friendship somewhat though (see her as little as possible now). It won't spoil your pregnancy; once you have a baby thats where all the attention will be, and you'll get yours first .

Morning! First midwife app this morning, nervous but excited! Lets hope she can pick up the heartbeat. My last 2 apps were cancelled as they are so busy - is it just here or are they stretched to breaking point everywhere?

I have a sad dilemma with a friend who was pregnant, due the same time as me roughly, but who has just found out she lost the baby. She is a very close friend and I want to give her support, especially as not many people knew, but seeing me still pregnant will obviously be very hard. Anyone been there from either side with any advice? I've just beem texting so far trying to be as tactful as possible.

Hi MsSparkle, sorry you are in so much pain. I don't have any personal experience of this, but when my mum gave birth to me and my sis she broke her coxyx (sp) (tailbone) both times. The first time no one realised until a few days later when she mentioned it to the midwife. It healed quite quickly but she did still get some pain sometimes. Maybe something similar happened to you?

I am desperately waiting for my maternity jeans that I ordered to arrive today so I can finally have a pair of pants I can get on.

Loosey; I had a similar thing, though friend wasn't quite as advanced as yours. I think you can just be sympathetic and take your cues from her. If she decides to avoid you for a bit it is understandable. I have another friend who I still haven't really seen since I had DD because she lost one during my first pregnancy and its just too painful as she may now never have children.

I think pregnancy/childbearing is a real time for seizmic friendship changes. You forge so many new ones with mothers/pregger people that sometimes some of the old ones get swept away/left untended for a year or two. Its a bit like leaving school for Uni all over again!

So after 3 weeks of checking the post for my combined (nuchal plus blood) test results, I finally called the hospital and found my risk is 1:580. This is officially 'low risk' but I'm still suddenly terrified.

Would I be crazy to consider cvs or amnio with a 1% risk of miscarriage? I would hate to offend anyone with different views, but I really, really don't want to have a baby with DS.

1:580 is still twice the usual for my age -- will be 35 when baby is born, so am I just getting things out of perspective? I really just wanted one of those unambivalent results like 1:120000... but I guess we all do.

Loosey I also had the same thing happen in my last pregnancy - although my friend lost her baby at 20wks as she was diagnosed with cancer and had to have chemotherapy. I tried to be there for her, but when you lose a baby it is all consuming for a while and she couldn't handle me still being pregnant. We drifted apart, although I saw her by chance recently and she suggested we meet up for coffee, which will be lovely. I would make contact with your friend but be prepared for a similar response just in case and if she does push you away make it known to mutual friends that you understand her reasons etc. that way she won't be uncomfortable about things once she has had some time.

I also found when I was pregnant with DD that a lot of friendships were changed - some friends had been trying themselves and can feel resentful when you fall pregnant (not in a nasty way, but many of us will know how much ttc can affect you), others aren't children people and won't understand your desire to procreate. I also found that towards the end of my pregnancy I wasn't feeling particularly sociable and some friends didn't understand that and drifted away. The same happened once DD was born and suddenly going out with friends became a mammoth and sometimes impossible task. But I have met loads of new people through ante-natal groups and toddler groups and they have become good friends, some closer than the people I had met through work and things before getting pregnant. Now that some of my older friends have got babies themselves, many of them have got back in touch too.

miss jackson... if thats your views about DS, then you obviously have to have the amnio done?! That said, like you are told, 1:580 is still a low risk. Have you spoken to OH, Midwife, & Doc about your concerns?

48 Hours and Counting until my Scan..... Hurrah, i'm so excited to have it done! Dh i think is finding it to believe i'm really pregnant sort of. Being firstimers, i dont have much of a bump (apart from the evening for sure now!) but the lack of a period, 12 weeks of awful sickness, tired all the time and Two tonne breasts you think he would be convinced! haha! So lets hope its a good picture, i'm praying the baby is awake and waves or something lovely!!

I guess everyone else has had they're 12 wk scan, given that mine will be 14+2!!!

OK, sorry for first panicked post... having had all of 20 minutes to reflect, I've decided the positive way of looking at it is that given all the tests, my chances of having a healthy baby are double what they would normally be at my age.

The counsellor who told me was really helpful and made an appt for me to see a consultant next week, so I will talk about amnio then -- I would hate to lose this baby, but really couldn't deal with DS so like you say, rrr, maybe I should consider it anyway.

MissJackson - I don't think that is a question we can answer for you too easily, it really is a personal decision and I couldn't give you an answer without it being reflective of my own views on the subject. If you feel that strongly then as rrrayray says perhaps you should have the amnio, but only you and your partner can make that decision. Sorry not to be of more help.

sorry X-posted with you then.

MSsparkle - people get so funny (not ha ha ha funny) when they are pregnant!!! My sister in law recently told us she is pregnant - she is one month behind me and I am so excited for us to be pregnant at the same time as our kids can grow up together and we can support each other through the pregnancy. However I get the distint impression that she is not so happy that I am pregnant and that she would rather be receiving all the attention and being the only one to be pregnant in the family, and she certainly does not want to talk baby talk with me. So ridiculous but sometimes you have to just let these things go, not take offense and focus your energies at what is really important.

Thanks Lenni apologies if it came across as me asking for answers; of course that's a decision we'll have to make for ourselves but just wondered if anyone else thought 1:580 was actually a low risk for my age or could offer reassurance. I guess I really should trust the medical profession! I'm sure they wouldn't class it as low risk if it wasn't. Gosh, these numbers are all so confusing and scary and ultimately they are just statistics.. if I was playing a lottery at odds of 1:580 I certainly wouldn't be betting much money! And I've worked out that it's way better than a 99.5% chance of having a healthy baby! So now it seems a bit ridiculous to be scared. I guess I really just panic-posted!

Deep breaths....

MissJ, if you can have further diagnostic testing and you feel that you'd prefer to know and make that choice if needed then it's probably a good idea to go ahead.

Are you the other peron who's at the Whittington, or have you moved out of London already? The reason I ask is that they offer quite a good screening/testing programme, much more I think than a lot of other hospitals, and their experience of diagnostics is likely to be much better as a result - that should hopefully make CVS/amnio safer.

As mentioned last week, my risk came back as 1:120 and therefore high risk, mainly on account of being 39. I'm being booked in to have a CVS test on Thursday, and will probably learn initial results next Monday. I will probably continue the pregnancy, dp and I have discussed it, but I really feel a need to know now - the risk seems much worse when you know what it is however much you try to ratiionalise. In my first pregnancy I was just told, by post, that I was LOW risk (their emphasis) although I was already 37 and I didn't ask more, maybe if I'd been told the numbers I'd still have been scared.

I've started a thread to ask others' experiences of CVS/amnio, Miss Jackson, under the Pregnancy topics, if you'd find it useful to read that. Generally the responses I've had on here, my first antenatal/postnatal thread and on that have been quite helpful and supportive.

Fingers crossed for you Elkie, I'd be doing the same.