Due November 08 - We're STILL a bunch of worrying fusspots who don't know what we want to eat, but pass us the cheese (and rice if you must ) purlease, while we wait for 12 weeks

[Heartmum2Jamie]

Here's our shiney, new and slightly ameneded thread to reflect our main topic of conversation recently! Really didn't want to mention the cheese and rice in the same sentence, but as it is a favourite with so many of you, I had to add it in, sorry to Hanaflower!

I was wondering.
I asked about having the list the other day.
Would it also be helpful to make a list of

a)people for whom this is their 1st - I am only assuming that it is different the first time, when you don't 'know' what to expect.

b) Those that have had difficulties - either mc or conception - that might help us to be more understanding fo how people feel.

Just an idea ?

No peanuts ?
Oh dear , I have just eaten loads.

so sorry to hear the bad new mummyhill

Good news for the good scans, ive got mine on May 6th, first one, and it feels like so long away... as this is my 1st i still dont believe fully that is happening until i see that scan pic!

Recommended no peanuts if there is a history of nut allergy/ eczema not sure about asthma in your or you partner's family.

Good news on the scan date, emmanj- it's only a few weeks away.

Mummyhill - very for you. Take care x

Mad4 - sorry you are feeling rough. I have good days and bad days so I can sympathise. It is probably as Oblomov said, we are the 'youngest' in the group so they have all been through this and we are still slap bang in the middle of the crap.

Re peanuts - they are one of the only things I can eat at the moment so I am having tons. Don't have any history in the family and I ate them throughout first pg.

Ruthless - I am finding it so hard not to tell people aswell. Was thinking of starting to tell more people (family and close friends already know) shortly but have this awful paranoia that there will be something wrong at the 12-week scan (and worse, that there is just nothing there ) and I couldn't face having to tell people. I am, by nature, a very open person so it is killing me but I keep imagining the awfulness of having to tell people if something goes wrong and it does help.

Like Dh said to me the other day, how strange that you don't want to tell people you know in rl but are quite happy to broadcast it to complete strangers on the internet

Hi all, just calling in quickly, haven't been around for a while as DH is working away during the week atm and takes the laptop with him, got date for first scan, not till May 3rd, can't wait! Am feeling very paranoid and nervous although the yucky feelings are still there and I am soooo tired - having to nap when DS does, morning and afternoon!
Jealous of all yout scans oblomov, sorry for your news mummyhill and hope you feel better soon mad4
Sorry to anyone I've missed, just had a quick browse through thread

Oblomov, peanuts are fine unless you have a strong family history of food allergies or eczema. My ds2 is allergic to peanuts and had/has severe eczema, so no peanuts for me, but other nuts are fine, even though ds2 is allergic to other nuts too.

We still haven't told friends or family, except for my best friend. at first it was because we were scared somethnig would be or go wrong, but now that we have heard baby for ourselves, we could technically tell the family, but we have made it this far, we may as well wait the full 12 weeks, plus we have a scan on Thursday, so will be nice to show off a pic of the bean we are talking about!

Mummyhill, so sorry to hear your news. Take it easy and good luck for the future. daisy xx

I'm haivng very anxious moments about my scan on monday. that combined with my not yet treated PND from last pregnancy, and I've been a wreck all week. Am going to book in to see the doc and see if I cvan start on the ADs again as I don't want to get to the state I was in when I was pregnant with DD again.

but, have booked a couple of breaks for us; a long weekend for the may bank holiday in Northumberland and a week in Staithes on the Yorkshire coast in the summer hols (tis our spiritual home and we dream of the day we can buy a house there). Feel better already by just making the bookings.

busy busy this weekend, so I'll catch up on Monday after my scan

MOrning All, just checking in after a few days abscence...Firstly, Mummyhill I am very sorry to hear your sad news. I hope you and your family are all ok and you are on another an thread very soon.

For all those that are very worried - Oblomov, Lacksdaisy et al - As you know I have also suffered from MC and hence am very very worried about being PG. With DS1 I suffered from prenatal depression for about 10 weeks but saw a councillor who really really helped.

At my booking appointment, I obviously went through my history and the madwife recommended I had councilling (sp!) this time around. I have my first session with a fully trained midwife next week.

With DS1 I let it fester and it got quite bad, with DD2 I only had 1 session and hopefully the same with this PG. Once we have all had our scans,I am sure we will settle down........Is anyone else worrying about something being wrong with the baby? This is what has been keeping me awake lately......

where do i get bio oil?

Renaissance you should be able to get it in most chemists I think Asda and tesco also seel it. Boots def do it and so do superdrug.
Hope this helps

Morning All, Thought i'd pop on the computer before I go and meet a friend for lunch. Poor DH is sitting office behind me doing accounts argghhhh...but i'm off out no wine though!

OB - I do think it might be a good idea for the list of us first timers and people who have had mc and trouble conceiving (i probably think this is a good idea bc i fit into all catergories).

I am a first timer. I had a previous MC in Oct last year. I have severe endometriosis and was told I would never conceive without IVF/ICI (how wrong was that guy)BUT that news broke my heart. My husband is 20 years older than me (29 and 49) and had a vasectomy 14 years ago. Had a reversal in Nov 2006 and was told he had 33% good ones. Following 2 operations (1 serious 1 less for my Endo' as it was all over my womb, liver, kidneys, bladder, (Still all over bowel but we are saving that for after babies), ovaries etc) and ttc for 18 months we were given the saving grace of CLOMID (which i had also been told by IVF professor wouldn't work for me). Was waiting for AF to start so could take 1st round of clomid and discovered I was pg. The joy like everyone would know after all our bad luck was just unbelivable but then that was taken away from us when I MC in Oct 2007. I took the positive from it by making myself understand we could do it and that clomid would only help matters. Started clomid, started 2nd course too (didn't ovulate) started 3rd course and finally ovulated... discovered on day 27 (soooo early) that I was pregnant with Tarquin (JOKE that is what we call PEA at the moment). So that's where I am. I really just wanted to blurt that out as in a way it has made me feel better. I have just re read it and thought WOW, look what we've overcome. Sorry for such a long post. xxxxxxxxx

P.s. Lacksadaisy - GOOD LUCK FOR MONDAY x

Wow Pinkali, you really have overcome a lot! I'm just in awe that you stayed positive and got there. Best of luck for the next few months!

I feel most incredibly lucky that I came off the Pill in Jan and got pregnant in Feb. Thought it would take a while, so when my period was late I thought it was nothing as they can be irregular. But then on day 3 my nipples started going funny and I thought, sh*t! And sure enough I was. I couldn't believe it.

I really felt the irony that it can be so hard for some and so easy for others. Thank God that in this day and age there are such things as IVF and people don't just have to give up.

Oh my gosh I've just realised I've been up for over an hour and have only just got hungry! VERY unusual. Actually I'm starving now, off to make scrambled eggs

Wow pinkali that's an amazing story it is no wonder you are so anxious. Only a little while to go now till your scan and 12 weeks mark so hopefully we can all start to relax and enjoy a little more.
Hope everybody has a lovely weekend

Pinkali, I've just read through the last few pages and I can feel your stress streaming through the computer screen! You are going to do yourself an injury!

You can't do anything about it even if there is a problem, so try to do something nice today and take your mind off it (I know how hard that is as I am counting the days til my scan too...) I'm sorry it's so worrying a time for you.

I'm feeling a lot better than I was and only have slightly sore boobs and am still getting the all-consuming tiredness. No sickness now and the aversion to food is fading. 11 wks today yeay!

i'm also having the doubts about what is going on in there and am paranoid that the scan will find an empty uterus. I think because I have never done this before and just can't get my head round the idea that there is a human being in there. It's crazy!

Right I've got to stop posting messages cos you'll all be bored of me

morning, I'm having a sofa day today and have pinched DHs laptop so I can post from the front room rather than our "office"

dozy, thanks for your post. I'm going to see the doc on Monday to get started on the ADs again, or a referral back to the neo-natal unit at the psychiatric hospital for counselling. I was referred to then before DD was born and went until she was six months old. I'm not sure they will see me this early though?, but as my issues are still tied up with DDs perganacy and birth then hopefully they will.

Pinkali, you have overcome such a lot and been through loads to get where you are so it's no wonder you are feeling anxious about it. I think you need to see your GP or CMW and tell them of your fears as anxiety isn't good for either you or the baby. Have you tried relaxation exercises or anything like that. And some women have good results with acupuncture and homeopathy for this sort of anxiety.

this is such an anxious time though, as in this day and age we are all more aware of the things that can go wrong that women in our mother's day. My mum had four pregnancies and went through all of them with minimal midwife appointments. She didn't know anything about possible problems (other than MC) so consequently didn't think about it.

I worry endlessly that there is something wrong with the baby due to my advancing age. I'm also pretty forgetful when it comes to taking pills so my folic acid consumption is intermittent at best. Also being coeliac, I don't eat as many fortified foods as non-coeliacs.

I hope we can all try and relax into our pregnancies a bit more once we are past the 12 week/1st scan hump. In the meantime, it's wirht keeping hold of the thought that the chances of things being OK far outweigh the chances of things going wrong

have a good weekend folks

Well, I am a basket case right now. I found that I was spotting a few hours ago, muscousy brown, only when I wipe. I know that brown is old blood and strictly nothing to worry about and I guess that if I were still having periods, one would be due around now. I am not cramping, but I do have an on/off dull pain in lower left, like ovary pain I guess. Anyone have any experience of cysts and do they cause spotting?

Thank god I have got a doppler, as I can hear that baby's heart is beating away and that baby is moving. EPU is closed (what is the point in having one of they aren't open weekends?), the hospital said to rest but call the on call GP if the bleeding/pain gets worse, or go to A&E. I just hope it all stops by tomorrow, like a bad dream.

Right, best get back to resting.

How are things now Heartmum? You are due the same day as me as my period would be due this weekend too so its very possble that it could be that. I read that a lot of women have a little spotting near when their period might be due. I'm also having a little like ovary pain when i stand up too quickly or stretch which i too hope is normal. Roll on our scans next week
Let us know how you get on xx

Hello all

Heartmum2jamie that is weird i have been having EXACTLY the same thing, i started a thread yesterday. My period would be due today and the bleeding has eased off tho i still have cramps. Hope you manage to get some rest.

mummyhill I am so sorry, wishing you strength for your recovery.

My mother has finaly gone, i have told her about the pg. Her first response was "what about me, what about my plans?" not really the response i was looking for, especialy as she isn't even in the country for 6 months of the year and i rely on her for nothing.
I am feeling sick, knackered and generaly poo atm. Off to start a theraptutic "i hate my mother" thread

Hey Serendippity - have just been over to your vent thread - sound like she is just one of those women and the only thing you can do is manage YOUR own feelings and ensure YOU stay ok despite how your mother is. You have to know that you are not responsible for what she does or says or feels. Why is it though that even as grown adults we still need this 'approval' from our parents - I think it must be such a human trait to try to please them - from little kids up to adults. I guess the trick it to learn that we can't please them all the time and actually don't have to.

I am nearly 10 weks and am really struggling with the tiredness - my skin feels like I've been on a long haul flight (does that make any sense?!)

Have just checked our stats thread, from what everyone has listed we have 11 scans next week! Wow - it a really exciting week - I guess lot's of you turn 12 weeks then? Hearing all your news will keep me going until mine.

Evening All - 11 scans next week...that is amaaing, i haven't got mine until 8th May which feels like forever!!

Roca - my skin is alwaya always dreadful during PG...a simile to long haul flight skin is actually very accurate!

HEre is what I have found helps:

Estee Lauder Idealist Skin Refiner on cleassed skin is utterly amazing.....

follow with your usual moistuiser but 2x a week use Chanel Sublimage which is a complete, thickm gorgeous anti ageing cream...

Now take a deep breath....the cost of the Estee Lauder is £40ish and the Chanel is gulp £120 (DM runs off to cover her head in shame, but hey by not drinking for 9 months probably equates to £10 a week or £400..so hey I am saving money right??!!)

DM x