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August 2021 - Heading into the second trimester

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BertieBotts · 16/02/2021 12:23

Old thread was about to fill up again Wink

I will try to get to the car seat/pram Qs in a bit...

@wimbler - EDD 29 July, having a surprise! 💛
@Champson - EDD 22 August (but really June/July), TBC 💛💛💛
@Jessicapebbles - EDD 5 August (but having C-section at 39 weeks, so really July) 💛
@smurf123 - EDD 5 August (but likely to be July) 💛
@WhatEvenIsSleep EDD 2 August, TBC 💛
@Smushty14 - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Rattyclife - EDD 6 August, TBC 💛
@Biscuitcat - EDD 10 August, having a surprise! 💛
@runnergirl123 - EDD 11 August, TBC 💛
@PurplePansy05 - EDD 12 August, Boy 💙
@BananaHammock23 - EDD 13 August, surprise 💛
@MrsB2019x - EDD 13 August, TBC 💛
@Magik01 - EDD 13 August, TBC 💛
@Carefree1 - EDD 15 August, can't wait to find out 💛
@DressyGerbera - EDD 15 August, surprise 💛
@lucyrp - EDD 16 August, undecided 💛
@BertieBotts - EDD 16 August, want to know! 💛
@Whatshouldbemyusername - EDD 16 August, TBC 💛
@WolfMother326 - EDD 17 August, surprise 💛
@Smallbean27 - EDD 19 August, surprise 💛
@WatermelonKisses - EDD 20 August, surprise 💛
@alittlexmasmagic - EDD 22 August, surprise 💛
@Millymay13 - EDD 22 August, TBC 💛
@Notinthestarsigns - EDD 23 August, TBC 💛
@northernsquirrel- EDD 31 August, surprise 💛

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lucyrp · 22/02/2021 19:40

@Inmypjsagain its weird because I actually do suffer with anxiety. Not so much this last year but had a couple of really bad years and was signed off work for a few weeks etc. But to do with pregnancy of course I worry but hot to that extent. Maybe its because I've done it before ? I'm not sure. Hahah don't be! I don't think I was this size until I was 20 weeks with my first! Not sure what that says about how big I'm going to get this time. It was a lovely and neat bump last time 🥺🙈

MrsB2019x · 22/02/2021 20:02

@PurplePansy05 Silver Cross are doing a gorgeous nursery furniture set half price for £550 - includes a wardrobe, chest of drawers with changing table on top and a cot bed. I asked them when the deal is ending and they said there isn’t an end date currently. We will definitely be getting that at some point!

@lucyrp My right one is often rather stabby, much more than my left! So bizarre

PurplePansy05 · 22/02/2021 20:03

@Carefree1 I adore Tenby, one of my favs. I miss it so much, we've not been since 2019. I went there after my first MC and it really lifted my spirit, beautiful, happy place xx

Whatshouldbemyusername · 22/02/2021 20:07

Ladies for those who esp are first time mums like myself there’s the virtual home baby show this coming weekend maybe that can help look at a few bargains too?

@MrsB2019x thanks for the tip. Will check it out too!x

Inmypjsagain · 22/02/2021 20:15

@lucyrp I empathise with the anxiety! I’m sure experience helps this time around too 😊 your bump still looks neat! Don’t know why I want to show, maybe as evidence for all the sickness I’ve put through 🤣

@Whatshouldbemyusername is that the baby live one?

Defo gonna have a nose at the silver cross furniture!

Whatshouldbemyusername · 22/02/2021 20:21

@Inmypjsagain it’s this one x

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-baby-show-live-home-february-2021-tickets-132805381471?discount=MFME21

Inmypjsagain · 22/02/2021 20:34

@Whatshouldbemyusername thank you- free general admission means it’s worth a look! 💖

Whatshouldbemyusername · 22/02/2021 20:36

Exactly. We’re in a lockdown too! Virtual for 2 days. I will check out for sure x

PurplePansy05 · 22/02/2021 20:40

My MW mentioned the Bounty app to me too, I recommend - there are some discounts and freebies there, new ones appear every few weeks xx

BertieBotts · 22/02/2021 20:46

@PurplePansy05 when I costed it all out last time, it came to about €2k so I think that's about right. We ended up doing it for less due to a lot of second hand/generous friends giving us stuff. But it's not a bad amount to budget if you can afford it, and if you have any left over just save it.

Note you do not HAVE to spend £2-3k!! If you go for cheaper brands, second hand and avoid a lot of the pointless things it can be much cheaper but if you want mid-range stuff and mostly new then yes I think that's a reasonable minimum.

I would defo recommend NOT buying stuff that you won't need immediately. For example a highchair isn't necessary until you start weaning. Most baby toys are completely pointless until at least 3 months old. We didn't really do up DS2's bedroom until he was about a year old when he went into it. By all means, make a list and again if you see things cheaper in advance then snap up the deal, but there is no need to go crazy and plan months ahead. The shops will still be there when they are 3/4/7/12 months old, and almost anything can be delivered online these days. Unless they close due to a pandemic, of course :o but you should have plenty of time to browse this summer.

But yes, the year or two surrounding the birth of a baby and when they are little is likely to be the most financially lean period of your life, due in part to the increased costs of a baby but also due to the reduced earning potential.

My old employer and my doctor are disagreeing about whether I'm allowed to work now Hmm so that's helpful, as they are supposed to still be paying me but they haven't been and I thought I'd chase it up. They have offered me the job back if I want to continue though so that's nice Confused I would love to go back TBH but just not sure whether it's risky or not!

DH had all these plans of getting DS2 used to his room by doing nappy changes in there and we never even did a single one :o We just used the sofa with this travel changing mat every time! We now have a proper changing space set up in the big bedroom so perhaps we will use it this time.

I find "nursery furniture" is usually incredibly overpriced. My recommendation would be to either get a cot (120x60 size) that fits in your room, move it to their room as soon as you want to put them in there, or use a bedside cot/crib/moses basket in your room, and get a cotbed for their room (140x70 size, converts to toddler bed) for their room. Ikea ones are really reasonable, or we ended up with a really cute alien design one from a Russian company, as he has a space themed room. Then just buy normal furniture as and when. DS2 still doesn't have a set of drawers. We kept his clothes in a set of tiny Ikea plastic boxes which now store toys. Now his clothes are bigger, we first moved them into the shelves of an old wardrobe we already had, but that's going I think. So we were going to get him a set of ordinary Ikea drawers, but the one I wanted was sold out. Currently they are just piled on the old changing table that I want to sell.

In Germany it's really common to have a changing table that slots onto the top of a set of drawers which I think is quite genius! For example this one for MALM: www.amazon.co.uk/Kidsaw-Changing-Board-IKEA-White/dp/B07HWTF323/?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

But you could also just stick a changing mat on top of a set of drawers, or again Ikea do some really clever/simple changing tables, like Sniglar for £25, or there's one for £60 that turns into a bookshelf, one for £90 that turns into a desk. Changing tables are one of those things that splits people - some shell out for one and then never use it and find it an expensive waste of space. Others say it absolutely saved their back.

It's getting a matching set of cot + wardrobe + drawers which ends up being £££ and it really doesn't matter - pick a nice cot, and then a nice wardrobe and/or drawer set later in the same or coordinating wood or colour.

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Alittlexmasmagic · 22/02/2021 20:53

@PurplePansy05 personally the only thing we spent as much money on as necessary was the car seat. Like you, we wouldn't put a cost on safety. My in-laws bought the pram for us. We bought a next to me on offer, plus an IKEA cot & mattress (I hated the knobs so bought new knobs to make it nice). We've taken a side off turning it into a toddler bed instead of paying for a purpose built cotbed.

Changing tables aren't worth the expense new really, a chest of drawers with a mat on are the perfect height and functional. We were given a JL change table which my SIL had bought for £20 off eBay to match her JL cot (new) and matching wardrobe (also £20).
Breast pumps are worth keeping an eye on for bargains but really are better bought afterwards when BF established, just in case it doesn't happen for whatever reason.

Those who have Boots cards, join the parenting club & you'll get 10 points per £, essentially 10% off.x

BertieBotts · 22/02/2021 20:56

Baby baths are another common source of regret/major space stealer!

The only ones worth getting are Tummy Tub (or unbranded equivalent), Shnuggle, or just get the Angelcare bath seat for inside any cheap bath. Or stick them in the big bath with a parent - absolutely free!

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BertieBotts · 22/02/2021 20:59

On the car seat front though, it's worth mentioning that the infant seats can be extremely pricey and what you're paying for is a rotating feature or something. Safety wise the most expensive is not necessarily the best. Price makes more of a difference for the next stage up. You will probably only use an infant carry type seat for about a year, so budget accordingly.

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PurplePansy05 · 22/02/2021 21:05

This is what I love about this thread, the no nonsense approach! Thanks ladies. I'm looking into Ikea as we speak, actually. I have also considered getting a non matching furniture and upcycling it, for example in different colours but with the same knobs. I've upcycled a lot of our furniture already, question is whether I have enough energy for this now, but I have lots of ideas...this might be quite a nice and unique thing to do. I'm not sure if Ima huge fan of paying £600 or even £400 on a set of furniture that frankly looks a bit cheap, because most of them really do.. of course you can pay £2k just for that and it will be a sturdy wooden set, but equally I can get it second hand for peanuts and upcycle to my liking...

lucyrp · 22/02/2021 21:24

Funny talking about IKEA furniture. We don't have enough room for wardrobe and drawers so using a billy bookcase with tension rod attached to the top for hanging clothes and then baskets on the remaining shelves for nappies, wipes etc. Really excited to do it. Saw someone on Facebook do it and feeling much more relaxed now I have found something that fits in the space we have left without taking the room over !

Inmypjsagain · 22/02/2021 22:10

@BertieBotts yours posts are amazing. I wish there was a way to bookmark them all- really looking forward to your blog! The malm topper you have linked to is perfect for me, thank you! I hadn’t even considered a baby bath, I feel like my list is probably lacking in helpful things and probably full stuff I don’t need!

I’d follow your dr’s orders but don’t know it works in Germany- are there measures for pregnant ladies to work remotely etc?

I had a look at the silver cross furniture and I was quite surprised at the cost (the deal for £550 is good though)- must admit I’ve been looking at IKEA. A lot of our place is west elm but their cot is £499 😬 seems a lot which I can’t justify. Very similar and £170 at IKEA!

I downloaded bounty, thank you @PurplePansy05 and there’s a discount on the Chico next me, £65 off which seems quite good. Still think it’s early for me to buy but will definitely keep my eyes peeled! I’d like to find a bugaboo discount, I’ve been recommended them by so many different people saying it’s just the best etc but so pricey. Mircolite looks quite good but 🤯 too much choice. I asked my DH for opinions and he said it’s just a pram, we just need one that moves and folds.... I mean in theory he’s not wrong 😂

notinthestarsigns · 22/02/2021 22:12

If/when anyone who is organised has written a list of their “must have” items it would be great if you could share it, it is hard to know where to start and as others have said I’m sure it is so easy to get carried away with things that you don’t actually need! Especially as the baby won’t stay little for long.

notinthestarsigns · 22/02/2021 22:15

We are hoping to move house before August, had the agents out to do a valuation today. Whilst we do have some savings I’m sure they will be eaten up pretty quickly between house move and baby!

LyraShaeLilly · 23/02/2021 00:37

Omg haven’t even thought of a baby bath, is there a way to get around that or do you actually need a special bath to bath a newborn because of safety?

We thought we would buy new this time around and then all the items can be used for future babies too, anything that breaks or then needs replacing we can get second hand. Would second hand items last e.g prams if you wanted to use for all future children? That just feels like a lot of use?

lucyrp · 23/02/2021 06:33

@LyraShaeLilly I mean you don't "need" a baby bath but they are useful for their first few baths but then I'm pretty sure I just used shallow water in our actual bath. You still have to hold the baby either way so it doesn't make all that much difference. Surprisingly a lot of people don't actually use their travel systems for long at all which is why if you buy second hand you can find some good deals as a lot will use it for the carrycot use then transfer to just a buggy. My friend swapped over from her icandy peach to a cheap mothercare buggy by 6 months so realistically 6 months of use is not a lot. Especially as I found I didn't actually use my pram a great deal with DS but now we live somewhere different can see me using it most days for walks where as I would have just used it for going shopping before

BertieBotts · 23/02/2021 07:23

You can bath them in a sink (if the tap isn't in the way) or in the main bath - but it's really awkward to lean over the side of the main bath and reach in to a tiny, slippery, wriggly newborn at the bottom. Not so bad once they can sit up reliably, but that's 8-10 months away!

So a baby bath just saves your arms/back really, and means you don't need to run so much water. But do think about how you will empty/fill it. If you have a baby bath on top of a stand it gets quite heavy and awkward. I think we just used the baby bath twice on the floor :o Then DH did all his baths with him by just running a bath for himself, a bit colder than he would have liked, and holding DS2 in the water. I really like it when breastfeeding to have bathtime be Dad's special time as they don't really have a good "excuse" to do anything skin to skin and oxytocin producing otherwise, and it's quite nice for them to have a special thing which is just theirs. And when I tried to bath with DS1 he would just go "Boobies!" and try to latch on. DS2 doesn't though.

If you get a special baby bath, you can either rest one arm in it to hold the baby or get a bath seat to put them in. The Shnuggle is good because the seat is built in. If you don't get that one, the Angelcare is the best seat. Others don't really compare! Pricey but you might be able to find second hand. Obviously also you cannot leave the baby once they are in the bath, and when they are tiny that actually means don't take a hand off them, so it can be easier to have everything (literally) within arms' reach if you're using a baby bath depending on the size/shape of your bathroom.

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PurplePansy05 · 23/02/2021 07:48

@notinthestarsigns I hear you 🤝 This is going to be a financial haemorrhage all at once, but worth it in the end! Once the most expensive months/years are done, it will get better.

I must say childcare is extortionate too, I've looked up the costs in my area and they are £7 PER DAY more than when I looked 2 years ago when I was pregnant. It's bloody shocking, they were bad enough then! This has just added around £150 pcm to my future childcare bill. It will exceed £1k for us, no doubt. xx

notinthestarsigns · 23/02/2021 07:56

@PurplePansy05 yes it will be an expensive few years with mat leave and then paying for childcare. I am hoping I’ll be able to go back to work 4 days, but only drop a few hours, and then we are hoping grandparents will be able to have the baby for a day each. If so then nursery will be down to 2 days a week which should be doable.

PurplePansy05 · 23/02/2021 08:05

@notinthestarsigns Mine will be a minimum of 4 days as we no longer have the family childcare option unfortunately, their own health has deteriorated too much. Think this will have an impact on timing DC no 2 in the future, unless we become super rich 😂 xx

biscuitcat · 23/02/2021 08:09

@PurplePansy05 childcare is crippling isn't it! Even looking at the price of nurseries makes me wince. But as you say, hopefully only a short time and then it'll ease up as they get older enough for free hours/school...

Thinking of cots, does anyone have any thoughts about if going for a regular cot or a cotbed is better? I think we can just squeeze a cotbed into the room as long as we don't go for a fancy sleigh style one as they always seem to be enormous! But not sure if it's worth it? We'd quite like another in 2/3 years so would need a cot again then anyway!

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