Due in December 07 - look at that bump!

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OK hopefully no-one else has started a new thread!

Skidaddle - I watched it - definitely a Spock person myself! A few things that the dreaded CV said made sense but not in the way she does it. Routine is good - but in the sense of letting babies learn that certain things happen, like making night-time feeds quiet and in a dimly-lit room so they don't think it's playtime, or having a wash/milk/cuddle/bed routine. Not setting time limits or anything like that though! And fresh air is good, but I take that to mean going out for a walk - it's good for both you and baby, not parking the pram outside in all weathers!

Didn't like the "don't breastfeed in public" line - so long as you aren't exposing yourself, I don't have a problem with it. I used to go to a cafe where I knew they had comfy sofas and not too bright lights - made sure I was wearing something that i could subtly lift up without exposing breasts or belly - usually had blanket round DD so that hid the belly if I lifted my top slightly.

DH almost looked emotional when those twins were crying (which is saying something, he only shows emotion when there is an English sporting triumph eg in the Olympics, or at the birth of DD2).

Spock's visitor ideas were good too - you need peace and quiet, not people coming round expecting you to show them the baby and make them tea! If people come round and make their own tea (and one for you), then leave soon, that's perfect! Friend with baby is coming round tomorrow, she wants to make a journey out of the house rather than us to go to her, which I can understand, so I will do a lasagne in the morning ready to heat whenever suits her & her family, so they can have an evening meal before going home.

taped bringing up baby last night as couldn't stay awake - annoys me that people assume you can't bf discreetly, last time people would often not realise I was feeding just giving ds a cuddle - will have to watch it tonight and try not to get - did you hear on radio that there have been loads of complaints about prog to ofcom for going against current gov advice on sleeping...

I don't have 3 of each fav names only one of each and they are already on the list - Matilda and Noah is what we're going for - looks like I could be right about them being popular!

had to smile that dh stayed up to watch bringing up baby - isn't funnyt how they change after children, he was actually genuinely interested to find out how the babies were coping!

I would go further and say even non-discreet bf is fine in public - obviously most mothers would rather be discreet for their own sakes but if you are a new mother and not yet adept at latching on etc you are bound to expose some boob for a while and if people are offended by that then I just don't care! How ridiculous that they find a mother feeding their baby offensive

Insy - were the complaints about co-sleeping - are government guidelines anti? I didn't know that. I thought it was lovely when that mum said that she thought her baby had woken up a few times because she felt him feeding - it must be so comforting for a newborn to know milk is right there and there's no need to cry for it

insy - my Dh was pretending to read a DIY manual about loft ladders but he was really listening to every word!!

skiddale - gov guidelines are baby in own cot, asleep on back and in your room for first 6mos to reduce risk of cot death (have to say we had ds on his front and in his own room from 6 wks for our own sainity but think complaint was yuo shouldn't undemine HV...)

I agree about bf - I feel so sorry for people who say they bf but only privately, it must be so restricting - one mum used to go to public toilets to feed if she was out, the idea is horrible, I wouldn't want to eat my lunch sitting on the toilet!

lol about reading about loft ladders

Just posted this on the Jan thread, so posting it here too as it's brightened my morning up as my boss is being his usual stinky self..

Check out Milla www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=485199&in_page _id=1773

Looking enormously preggers and gorgeous. She looks prettier than i've ever seen her and she admits to eating lots of doughnuts. How refreshing...

I missed it as my eyes just would not stay open, really disapointed. Will it repeat on one of the other channels do you think?

I dont like the idea of feeding in public, altho I am not offended by others doing so altho exposing whole boobs to me would make me feel a little uncomfy but i would just try not to look as it would be my problem rather than theirs. at the end of the day if BF is the choice then baby needs to be fed, that is the bottom line really.

she looks fantastic! how refreshing.

That is fantastic and I dont hink her choice of dress was that bad, what do they expect her to wear???

Errr what do they expect an 8-9 month pregnant woman to look like? WHERE is she going to hide the baby?

I think she looks gorgeous. I love her hair.

She's going to be my non-lesbiatarian pregnant pin up.

(I am actually looking for an outfit for Christmas parties where i look glam as GASP i'll be as enormous as Milla).

I can feel my soapbox isn't far away today, but really it's my boss i want to rant at so if i start ranting someone please tell me to stop...

I think she looks great, prob put on that much weight because she was so super skinny in the first place!

mixedmama - breast feeding tops are great if you feel uncomfy feeding in public and wanted to try it, I have to say people getting their whole breast out I just find a bit unnecessary and why deliberaly make people around you feel uncomfortable it just adds fuel to the fire of people not wanting you to feed in their cafe etc especially when its so easy to be discrete with some practise

Completely agree, but I do also think people dont need to make a big issue out of it to the person involved, I would just turn a blind eye, altho would certianly feel a little uncomfy.

Re English in Scotland: remember that most of these reactions are 'small town' rather than 'Scotland' i.e. here in Jed you're foreign if you were born more than 4 miles away, and I know that's the same in small English towns.

I'm South African by birth (and keep having to cut folk off at the legs when they start ranting about foreigners) but was made completely welcome in Glasgow in a way that DH (born and bred in Edinburgh) will never be in a small town in the Borders.

My advice: pick a place with a large 'incomer' population. Even in the Borders places like Ancrum and Newcastleton are very open and welcoming, where traditional ex-industrial towns like Jed and Hawick are anything but.

Locals are locals everywhere - think League of Gentlement - and I got far more grief living in rural N. Yorks (Ripon) than I ever did in Glasgow....

There was a woman at a baby group I used to go to who always used to wear quite skimpy tops and took the whole top part of her top down to bf and did it in a bit of a sexy way - it was really wierd because it did make you feel like you shouldn't be looking whereas normally watching someone bf is completely unsexual. Don't know why she did it that way - maybe she just did everything quite sexily! She was Scandanavian and I imagine they are very relaxed about bf over there.

Louise76: The NCT class I'm on is out Redford way - think there's still space for one more couple.... and the lady who runs it is anything but opinionated and bossy.

Email me at ljnoble [at] gmail [dot] com if you want the contact details of the leader.

What do they mean 'what not to wear when pregnant'? It's a lovely dress, she can't be expected to look thin in a dress when 8 months up the duff!! It's lucky she could get something to fit her. She looks lovely.

People keep telling me I'm big, but I've only put on 1 1/2 stone, 5 stone - yikes!!

Hello all sorry its been a while just taken me ages to catch up on all your news from epis (also reassuringly, mine's fine after dd- as my mum said (being a midwife in the 60's)'a cut is better than a tear to stitch up as its a straight line and can make you 'back' to normal' ikywim ) to names -we're still stuck..

Milla looks great but its that whole 'how dare a celebrity NOT think about their figure when pg' thing that charlotte Church had to put up with too. Bad and wrong.

Well I'm supposed to be getting prices for a cast iron fire surround and not alternating between here and ebay!!! The house is getting along nicely even though I can't believe we are going to be in there in less than 4 weeks. The plastering is taking ages but we can start decorating soon -yipee! (Although everything is just going to be white for now!)

We had another scan on Mnday to check on his kidney and its still dilated but workin ok, looks like its the predicted scenario of anti biotics after the birth and a scan when he's a few days old. Everytime we have a scan he's asleep bless him

LOL @ skid's dh "pretending to read a DIY manual about loft ladders" whilst bringing up baby was on, dp was the same

LOL housemum "Perineal massage - sounds like a job for contortionists!" I'm just not sure about it at all, let me know how you get on?

ITs nearly rasp leaf tea time again isn't it, GROAN, but I can't risk NOT having it as dd's birth so quick and easy and I had a lot of the stuff... I'm sure I bought capsules in the end though??

Bye for now

skid - so cute about your DD wearing her hat in the bath! My DHG mentioned Malaika as one his favourites, but am not keen on it as it reminds me of a Bollywood actress!
MM and skid - I asked what a general verbal test was?? Hope I didn't sound too thick! I eventually found one on-line (on pg 4 of a Google search and scored 19 out of 20!)
Wizzska - I've reached the 2 stone mark now!
Watching that programme on C4 - made me interested in a sling - anyone know of any good and reasonably priced ones?

amani - yes it made me think about getting (another) sling too - think one that crosses over at the back is best for safety (i.e. baby not falling out!) and comfort but don't know about brands

I've loved the name Malaika since I lived in Tanzania but my Dh thinks it would sound a bit (HATE this word but can't think of another) chav to Bristish ears

I have also reached the 2 stone mark in weight gain but have looked it up and it is well within the healthy range so will go and get myself some choccy biscuits

Lizzer - good that everything is going well with the house move - it will be so exciting once you can start putting your mark on it and making it all homely

Het thelady ...I was born in Uk but grew up in South Africa went to school university etc there and only moved back to UK when I was 25 and only settled her when I met H ...so even though I was born in UK - I will always feel South African and that will always be "home" to me ...my dad and stepmum still live in JHB and am looking forward to trip back end next year/early 2009 when LO will be a year
Off to 28 week MW appointment

Loucee, I used to get my eyelashes tinted but would put a bit of vaseline on them for the mascara effect-the advantage of the dye is no mascara streaks or having to use eye makeup remover

Amani and Skidaddle, I have a wrap sling that i can't recommend enough. I havent actually used it with a newborn in yet but have put dd's doll in and he seems very comfy! Would definitely be able to bf in both the cradle and upright positions. I can also carry dd (16 months) in it, although not very far, not that she would agree to be carried far anyway. Mine is a Calin Bleu stretch wrap, but if you are planning to carry for extended periods beyond the 4 month mark you'd probably be better off getting a non-stretchy one cos they offer better support to heavier babies. Wraps are a bit daunting when you first get them but once you are used to putting them on they are a doddle and soooo comfy.

thanks claireybee - there are just so many to choose from - and lots of threads on it amani if you're interested - is your one hard to tie and put your dd in claireybee? That was the problem I had with my last one - needed dh there to help me!

I was sent this link choosing a sling but not had a chance to have a look yet
The advert on the right hand side is for the sling used on bringing up baby (designed by CC lady but think its 50 pounds!)
I've been looking on ebay but too much choice - thanks for recommendation claireybee I love idea of a 'proper' sling this time