Due in Dec 07 - Feel them kick!!

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Hi, thought I'd start a new thread. Hope ou find this OK!

Just been shopping downtown and bought a fab paid of maternity pants for work.

Also bought "The Baby Name Wizard" as Borders were having 20% off everything. Feel free anyone to ask me a question about names now!! The book categorises them into the following "style families" (chances are if you like one name in the family, you'll like a number of others - e.g. I tend to go for "Antique Charm" names for girls which include Abigail, Adeline, AMelia, Anna. Annabel, Annalise, Ava, Bella, Clara, Daisy, Eleanor, Emma, Eva, Georgia, Grace, Hannah and Isabel):
African, Androgynous, Antique Charm, Bell tones, Biblical, Brisk and Breezy, Celtic, Charms and Graces, Country and Western, English, The -ens, Exotic Traditionals, Fanciful, French, German, Greek, Guys and Dolls, Italian, Jewish, Lacy and Lissome, Ladies and Gentlemen, Last Names First, Latino, Little Darlings, Long Gone, Mid-Century, Modern Meanings, Muslim, Mythological, Namesakes, New Classics, Nickname-Proof, Place-Names, Porch-Sitters, Saints, Scandanavian, '70s and '80s, Shakespearean, Slavic, Solid Citizens, Surfer Sixties, Timeless and Why Not?

MrsWizz - compeltely aggree. I was just thinking that that is maybe the reason they feel to sort of aattack women who do terminate. I really did feel they were attacking.

As ever, whatever your personal situation, you just gotta do what's right for you!

I started to watch the Benefits prog, but got bored and switched over to Heroes (bit more heartwarming if totally unrealistic). It was sensationalism, and of course the guy was a complete twat. And his two women, um, they appeared to be borderline special needs. I have a special needs sister and she is much brighter than those brain dead women.

I don't know if it mentioned it in the prog, but i've heard of her (Ann W) speak before of this thing she'd like to bring in where, if you've been on the dole for a while, like in America, instead of being given money, you get given vouchers that can only redeemed against food, and so you're basic human rights are kept up - roof over your head and fed - but no luxuries. I think this is ace, as the whole point of working and EARNING is you can treat yourself. Also, i think she would like people on the dole who've been given a generous chance to get a job, would have to then work on community projects. I think this idea is particularly good as it would hopefully instill a sense of pride in people about their input. It would get the lazy arses out of the house but also give those who geniunely want to work but find a job a sense of satisfaction.

Anyway, i've rambled on and been all political, so i'll on this note: aren't Ann Widdicombe's breasts incredibly wonky?!!! i think she needs a trip to Rigby and Peller....

and just noticed that i've left entire words out of sentences. IOooops!

I noticed the breast thing last night

My dad said in Hungary (when they were Communist) that if you were unemployed for more than a month or so you had to go out and work building the roads or whatever government jobs were available until you found something more suitable.

That bloke and his family actually get £200 a week more than we do. that severly peed me off. We cant afford a car at the moment and use DH work van, and this guy had a sporty thing and a 4x4. we struggled to buy our TV and he had one even bigger than ours.

His "wives" said absolutely nothing the whole time. It was silliness.

She did find two teenagers in Liverpool jobs as painter and decorators (girls) and they loved it and got kept on for the summer.

Check this out ladies.

mumsnet xmas party

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1368&threadid=375501&stamp=070822132028

Shall we go? We can spontaneously all go into labour whhen the excitement gets too much. Sounds like fun tho.

Yeah i switched over in time for quick look and saw the car stuff. I just had to sell my car because I can't afford to run one and prob won't get another one til the baby is about 3 yrs old.
But y'know, I work and pay and mortgage so tough shit to me!

Hungary stuff sounds really good. At least a lot of stuff in the community - the poorer parts i guess - would get fixed.

Maybe we could start a Mumsnet campaign...!

that party looks prime ground for getting some political changes discussed! Imagine a ton of Mumsnetters on the loose (and poss a bit tiddly) marching round central London.

Ah, i'm dying for a revolution in my lifetime!

i love your daily soap box. You sound like my dad.... I think he is a closest communist, talks about Hungary very fondly from back in the day when he visited friends and not to mention an allmost obsession with Che Guevara and various other revollutionary types.

I also had a friend that wennt travelling in Hungary and said that most peeople he sspoke to preferred Communist Hungary - not too clued up on Hungarian Communism, but that is the first time i have heard positive spins on the reality of communiism in practice.

sorry going off on one

Beckle - good on you for posting on the other thread. I wanted to write a post very similar to your but felt that given the tone of the previous posts I would be completely stamped on as "not understanding". Glad to see that a number of others agreed with you. Personally I have to agree that there needs to be a lot more effort into providing information about the scans before people have them so that you can be ready to make the appropriate choice for you and not be pressured into something you don't want.

Off now to grab fish and chips to have with my Mum and DD. TG another week over (and only 17 to go!!)

When you say only 17 left to go it doesn't sound long does it. I've got 18+2 to go.
Anyone else think it's flying past?

Nearly 22 weeks, but feeling quite relaxed about the whole thing - other than the blasted migraines - had to leave work early yesterday as I couldn't cope with it. Not BP related - little things like driving and work triggering it off...

Will be 22 weeks on Wednesday. It is defo flying by ridiculously. Only two weeks left till scan - FINALLY.

Apparently i referred to baby as he the other night, DH got upset with me as he would really like a girl and waffled something strange about positive thinking. Honestly i dont actually mind either way but he just makes me a laugh.

lol @ your dp mm my dp wzs hoping for a girl, but is is really pleased is a boy.

We are talking about no 3 already tho!

Right got to shoot off, get ready for beach. Sunshining here and gloat!

lol (had so much crappy weather tho!)

Enjoy the beach.

Think there will be a number three if a boy but then it will stop regardless no more than 3 for me. Might see you back on the antenatal boardss then

Hey everybody. Haven't been on in ages as our computer was playing up and I'm just back from my summer hols. Was lovely to spend some time on the beach but came back with the worst tan ever as I couldn't cope with the heat.

Sounds like everyone is doing well. I'm beginning to feel very disorganised - 26 weeks tomorrow and haven't done anything with a nursery, buying prams, choosing names etc. Still only have a wee bump on show. Mentioned to the mw last time as I was a bit worried about being so tiny but apparently all is ok. Feeling loads of kicks all through the day now which is lovely, except when it kicks anywhere near my bladder. Hormones driving me mad, only takes the slightest thing to send me into tears.

I'm actually getting really excited about meeting this little person who's giving me sleepless nights already.

I want to go to the christmas party but I think I might be giving birth that day or the next. Imagine that, giving birth in a Clerkenwell eaterie. Still, I'd be surrounded by lots of experienced mumsnetters who could tell me when to push. Make a change from my usual fusty old works christmas do - thank goodness I don't have to go to that this year.

I hadn't thought of being 18 weeks away from giving birth, but i like it! Sounds closer than it is. I don't feel the time is flying by, but it must be as it wasn't that long ago that i told my mum i was 6 weeks pregnant. I woke up today thinking i would definitely like to have a second one quite soon after and then that'll be it for me. I want to go travelling and think it'd be easier to pop two out, wait for them to grow a bit, save as much $$$ and then peg it like a little band of gypsies.

Prob looking at the whole process with rose tinted specs, but isn't life what you make it? All those countries i want to go to have babies and small children in them, i reckon you just have to alter the way you do it.

As it's Friday, i'm off me soapbox for a few days, and although trying to write a case history for work, am mostly day dreaming about being a dancer for Kanye West videos!

HAPPY FRIDAY EVERYONE!!! And feel sorry for those opinionated judegemental other women that post horrid messages about other stuff COS THEY'LL PROBABLY AGE REALLY BADLY WITH ALL THOSE NEGATIVE VIBES FLOATING AROUND.

It's tree huggin friday

Erm don't know if this is a totally nutty thing to say, but i'm kind of looking forward to labour. Not as an enjoyable experience, but because i'll get the best present after. And also because it's a primal, natural thing to do. My mum's done it 4 times so can't be that bad.

Oh no, i've probably jinxed myself. Anyone got any lovely labour stories? You only hear the bad sides like tearing and blood and this that and the other. A friend of mine has two children and she said it was the most amazing experience of her life. And she isn't a hippy, earth mother type.

Oh Beachbunni - tans are so overrated! All the women on 10 years younger have ruined their looks generally from outdoor exposure and/or fags.

Fake it, it's easy....i have a chum who is exactly same age as me and has been a sun worshipper and i swear she looks about 15 years older. She's got a hard look to her face that doesn't match everything else.

I think it's ok to tan your body a bit though, nice to have slightly brown leggies!

Ok i'm gonna do some work now...i feel all BOUNCY though

Positive Birth story. This is long.

2 am woke up with pains in belly, abdomen or whatever, kept just trying to go back to sleep.

5 am woke DH up and we had some tea and toast. 7am called hospital to say I think I may be in labour. all completely chilled. No omg this is it. She told me as I could still have a conversation and not stop for the pain it was early and to have a bath and just get on with my day. Had said bath and went back to bed.

Went shopping and for dinner in Chiquitos, bought an awesome Al Pacino print that I had wnated forever - but I digress. Popped to the hospital as it was across the road. Midwife said 2 cm dilated and said I may as well do a sweep whilst you are here, then went home. Contractions had been about every 10-15 minutes all day and uncomfortable but noot hugely painful.

Went home the moment I walked in the door they were 2 mins apart and very painful. Couldlnt settle anywhere. Had to stop talking when having one and focus.

DH came home from getting some food and BIL dropped us to hospital, quite funny as DH forgot his phone and we had to go back and BIL clearly thought I was going to give birth on the back seat.

Got there and couldnt believe still only 2 cm - this was 10 pm Monday evening. MW sent us out for a walk around Warren street and look like such a fool waddling around stoppiing every now and then for a contraction.

Got back and they got very painful and couldnt really decide what i wanted to do so had some G&A. DH had to show me how to do it.

MW decided the time was right for me to go into the pool and I got in.... completely addicted to G&A by this point so couldnt use pool to full advantage as I needed the access - but the weightlessness etc felt absolutely great. After a while I decided to get out and was still only 4 cm

Then I am sure I went into the transition stage as it hurt like hell and so tired. No idea what time this was and asked for epidural. MW suggested I try diamorphine as I was in thebirthing centre and would need to move to the delivery ward if I had epi. Agreed. Got the diamorphine and fell asleep so did DH.

Next MW came and it was my MW. I was 7 cm. Askked for epi again and she said no and I screamed and swore for the whole world and she said ok.

Thenn she said you have to walk to the delivery ward.... kicked up a fuss and saaid are you mad baby is going to fall out. She insisted and that tiny little walk made me 10 cms - got there and she was like ok time to push, it was 10 am. She said baby would be here by 11. DH was at thhe business end telling me he could see the head and MW kept insiting i touch it, which i did reluctantly. DS born at 10.57 am on Tuesday straight onto my chest. brilliant.

i did poo tho and i constantly went to the loo to emppty bowels as i was para about this but it made no ddifference.

All in all I cant have asked for it to go any better. it IS painful, first time seems to take forever - i think it would have been much more manageable if it didnt go on for so long.

This time am going to use the pool again but try to keep off G&A until I am in the pool and I would like to deliver baby there and dont want diamorphine as it made me really drowsy and alot of things are abit of a blur.

There is a thread with good birth stories - i will find the link.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1365&threadid=197093&stamp=070816202342

Interesting MM. Really into hearing about everyone's birth stories at the moment....

That's lovely Mixedmama, I hope mine goes well like that - and I want a pool too.

Your story is cool MM.

A friend of mine who gave birth last Christmas said she can't reccommend the pool enough, and also said if you can get the breathing right then you can limit your use of drugs and therefore be less drowsy.

yeah definitely try for the pool... if you dont like it (and some people dont) then you can just get out.

i really didnt like the diamorphine and that is something that will be a complete NO NO this time as I hated the way i felt and it didnt give any pain relief just knocked me out. If i feel the need to have pain relief then i wiill ask to be transfered and have an epidural, but am hoping it is all a bit faster this time round.

For me I found the most important thing for me was being in the birthing centre rather than the delivery suite, as only certain forms of pain relief are available, therefore less likely to be able to get the epi if i asked, but still possible IYSWIM. All within reach but not blatantly on offer.