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Due in December 07- we're almost halfway there!! NEW THREAD

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Caz10 · 03/07/2007 09:55

Hope this works....! Here's hoping July is the month for

  • proper bumps not fat looking tummies
  • feeling them move!
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buzzybee · 13/07/2007 09:27

Really? Don't think I've come across many in NZ. Mind you I thought that about Isobel and have stumbled over seemlingly dozens in the last 5 years. Actually most have been Isabellas - so my poor Issy gets called Isabella a lot.
I was talking to a friend today about the whole Downs Syndrome thing and it turned out that she is one of 8 and one of her brothers was DS (in the middle), he was No 4). She said he was treated just like one of the rest and had to fight his own corner because thats all his Mum could do and made it through ok (but died at 36 with heart probs). Very sad but also quite heart-warming I thought.
Canestan gets my vote for thrush every time. Used to get regularly until I started using that and after a few rounds I managed to knock it on the head completely and haven't had a recurrence for years.
Another trick when I've been feeling particularly glum is to deliberately go to sleep in front of the TV - something about noise in the background stops your head from thinking about all that other stuff.

mad4girls · 13/07/2007 09:33

if you ladies are having small waves of panic mine must be a tidal wave at the thought of managing with number 3 especially as ill mostly be doing it on my own as dp is always at work, some very good friends have never met my dp because hes always on a crazy shift, today is a good one.he hadto be there for 9.30 till 3.30 gets half an hour, then he has a shift from 4 till probably 11.30 or 12 thats happened three days this week, bearing in mind he has no set days off either, so we grab hours if and when.hope i dont get a colicky baby dd2 used to screm from 4-9 eavery night till about 6 mths ol, although hopefully ill be bfding they arent supposed to suffer with so much right?

well a day in town shopping for me off to buy dd2's cake and card etc chatlater

Bouncingturtle · 13/07/2007 09:42

ONly skimmed because busy, hope everyone is okay
DH and I are off to Scotland today for 2 nights in Aviemore!
Pecks - I am of your lovely bump, I am 16+5 today, and I still look like I ate all the pies.... It's just not baby bump shaped!!
HAve a good weekend everyone!
BTW I too am nervous about screaming like a baby during labour, pooing myself and having to have stitches and piles.

skidaddle · 13/07/2007 09:53

bouncing, don't think you'll be screaming like a baby in labour, more like banshee

cazzybabs · 13/07/2007 10:04

awen - are you a little stressed???? We love you!!!!

Two children is brilliant! It is easy when the baby is tiny (apart from your extremme tirdness) - three I am getting more worried about! we are going to have to get a car, more money on nursery fees, if it is a boy more clothes to buy - no more boden!!!!!!!``

claraq · 13/07/2007 10:49

I'm with the thrush brigade - keeps coming and going and the prescription pessaries don't seem to have got rid....

I am also with the terrified at the thought of two bunch. My dd will also be 2 - 2.2/3 to be precise. How do you cope with an active and tantrumming toddler all day when you have a screaming and hungry newborn??!!

As for breastfeeding, I agree with what people have said - it is hard at the beginning (well it was for me) but DOES get easier with practice. Buy some Lansinoh cream which really helped with cracked nipples; I also used nipple shields when things were really bad and couldn't have kept going without. I bf exclusively for about 4 months but might start using some formula earlier this time if necessary to help sleep at night (see earlier comment about hungry baby/toddler!! )...

MamaMaiasaura · 13/07/2007 11:38

yes abit cazzy.

Anyone else crying at pretty much everything? Is a tad embarrassing.

Claraq - poor you with thrush i have been lucky.

I am hoping to b/f again. b/f ds for a year. Was lucky as only had sore niple for a short time, which was because how i was latching ds on. Does tak practice tho and neither me nor ds had a clue what to do at first. I thought it would all come beautifully naturally.. There again i thought ds would be born to the peace and quite or a imly lit room, all very chilled etc. Gah.. the niavity of it all Now am not making any plans and having no expectations

skidaddle · 13/07/2007 12:13

awen, think we all have cry-ey/emotional phases, don;t be embarrassed, it is totally normal and at least you have the excuse of being pg!

claraq - my dd will also be 2.2 when baby no.2 is born. I have a friend with a ds the same age as my dd and a 3 month old, and she is having a right old nightmare (ds1 having 3-4 tantrums a day, ds2 feeding constantly, dp away for work a lot)and says she thinks it would have been a lot easier if she had waited a bit longer.

At least our dds will be out of nappies or close to it and sleeping through (hopefully), they can 'help' with the new baby (as in find it a fun game) whereas if they were younger they wouldn't be interested and in a year or so we will reap the benefits and they will be best of friends... clutching at straws here but it WILL be fine, it has to be... doesn't it??

suey2 · 13/07/2007 12:21

thelady- big respect to you. I know how difficult it is to set up your own business, know how awful it is to wake up at the same time every night not be able to get back to sleep and desperately trying not to wake up your partner. It is even more brave to make the decision to give it up. Good on you- you can walk away with your head held high and never have to ask yourself the question 'what if?'- you had the balls to give it your best shot and have made the right decision for your long term happiness.
The way i managed to break the sleep cycle was to write down the things i was worried about before i went to sleep, and if i woke up, I gave myself 5 minutes to get back to sleep again and if i couldn't, i would get up and either watch the telly (lots of frasier on the comedy channel at 4am) or read a crappy novel. If i was dozing off, i would just go to sleep on the couch. Milky drink/ peppermint tea helped (but NOT hot chocolate- gave me nightmares) as did a nice bath.
Absolutely the best of luck to you- you will look back on this and realise it was the best decision you ever made. big hugs (sorry for soppiness)

thelady · 13/07/2007 12:38

Thanks for all the suggestions/sympathy! I won't be on much for the next two days as it's the end of our Festival (like a common riding) and I'll be a tad busy.

Wave if you're passing Jedburgh, Bouncingturtle (on the A68!) and have a lovely weekend.

About thrush. Mum used to get it every 6 weeks. She hasn't had it since she:

  1. Stopped taking baths or swimming anywhere except the sea
  2. Put a 1/2 cup of white vinegar in the final rinse of all underwear (it removes any soap residue which messes up the pH down there)
  3. Cut down on refined sugars - specifically, cut out fizzy drinks.
  4. Got rid of all non-cotton underwear, and stopped wearing tights.

My barmaid has mentioned other diet-related solutions, and I'll try and remember to ask when she gets back from holiday.

BeachBunni · 13/07/2007 12:54

Awh thelady that must have been such a hard decision to make but I'm sure the best for you and your family. I might have missed it in your post but what are you planning to do when the hotel's sold?

After all this talk of worrying about life changing - last night dp let me have it. He's been quite quiet on the subject but it must have been about 2 o'clock before we got to sleep last night. He is majorly worried - he says he feels so anxious he feels sick. It's a very strange situation because usually I'm the one who's highly strung and he's laid back and now it's the oposite way around.

HailBop · 13/07/2007 12:59

Hi everyone,
Hope there's room for one more here! Just had my first ultrasound yesterday and looks like I am 19 wks, so expecting my first, a son, on December 2nd. Its the first for my husband and I so we're very excited, had a celebration dinner yesterday and plastered ultrasound pictures all over our house!

skidaddle · 13/07/2007 13:07

hi hailbop (like the name) and congrats

beachbunni - your poor dp - what exactly is he worried about? my dp was the same, said nothing, said nothing, and then suddenly it all came out. Is he worried about the financial side? i think a lot of men tend to worry about that, and that they will be pushed to one side once the baby is born.
BTW I haven't forgotten the yoga class but my friend is away at the mo.

suey2 · 13/07/2007 13:12

it is bloody tough beachbunni- it must be a huge change in role for them- where i was independent financially and to a lesser extent emotionally I am now far more dependent on DH. I was lucky that we discussed this early on, and now we could not be happier- although scared, as i previously said.
Maybe he does need to acknowledge his concerns and the change in your relationship and then you will be in a much better place, i am sure. These boys do like to bottle things up don't they?

MotherofZ · 13/07/2007 13:13

Welcome Hailbop!
Yeah been worry about the financial side of things too - hubby and I have decided to put a little bit of money away each month until the baby is born, so we can have those little luxuries in life - maternity pay isn't that much, when you have things going out.
Anyway - been having really aching boobs today. Anyone else? Know of anything to help?

kerioke · 13/07/2007 13:16

looks like we're all a bit up and down right now.. darn hormones! we have ladies plastering scan pics and having celebration meals (welcome to mumsnet and due dec btw!) we have mid night heart to hearts fwith worried dads to be, bf woes, major career changes and we are allt hinking about those purse strings.. and all that without the usual thrush, bump, food, etc issues!

so i'm gonna throw another one in to the equation... when ds2 was born he met his big brother (then nearly 6) for the first time with a gift,. he brought tyler some seamonkeys, which he'd been asking for for months, recieving this gift from his new baby brother really helped tyler adapt to not being the only one anymore and whenever he seemed a little off we would tend to his seamonkeys and he would comment on how his brother had got them for him when he hadnt given anyone else anything... so we have decided to do the same thing for each of the boys this time... their new baby sibling will bring them a 'welcoming gift' to the hospital... any gift idea's anyone?? tyler is 7, phoenix is 18 months.

BeachBunni · 13/07/2007 13:25

Hi Hailbop

Ok so this is what I'm managed to get out him last night. He's not worried about the financial side - we do ok, house car etc completely paid for, although spend frivolously atm which will have to stop.

What he is worried about is that I won't love him the same and all my love will go to the baby (why is it I only hear men talk about this - tried to explain of course things will change, I'll have different types of love and he'll feel the same about the baby.)

He's worried about caring for it - maybe he'll drop it on it's head or give it something they're allergic to. Worried that he'll mess up the child in some way and it'll turn out to be a druggie or murderer or something. Don't even get me started on the 'what ifs' he came up with.

I tried to clam him down said there's no point on worrying about the what ifs, as long as it's healthy and happy that's all we should care about. That's it's on the job learning and we'll do the best we can - we were given good moral standards by our parents and we'll pass them on.

I feel a bit sorry for him because women can talk about these things but men can't. I asked him last night could he not talk to one of his friends who has kids and he said no that he'd only wind him up more for a laugh.

kerioke · 13/07/2007 13:31

aww beachbunni bless him! he has suddenly started to experience the parental way of life.. worries, woes, what if's and if only's!! and the guilt... oh my god i had never felt anything like it... i felt guilty for everything when my first was first born.!

Give him a big hug and tell him that kerioke from mumsnet reckons if he is worrying like this now he is gonna be a brilliant dad with all the right qualities! xxx

mad4girls · 13/07/2007 13:33

ooh i had forgotten that one kerioke think i may get the girls a goldfish then as they have been asking for ages and they dont take too much looking after do they

they really wanted a hamster which i was considering until we babysat my aunties while she was on holiday in febuary and dd2 let it out and it died of shock in the corner of the room, i felt awful me thinks they are not old enough for that yet

just got in from town got dd's prezzie/card paper/cake etc and done other bits and bobs went in to wilkos got some stuff half price some nice lunch bags half price,got them both a new one each for new term, dd2 will love me as she been after a dora explorer one fore ages

hope everyone is ok
welcome hailbop- we are due about the same time i am 19 wks too,congrats to you

BeachBunni · 13/07/2007 13:41

Awh thank you kerioke, that's really sweet. Funny enough that's what he said last night 'this is it, I'm going to be worried sick for the rest of my life'. He's going to make a great dad

thelady · 13/07/2007 13:46

BeachBunni: we are gradually working our way through a book called "Babyproofing your marriage" which has, so far, been an eye-opener for both of us. It seems that we're rather typical in our reactions to the impending baby bomb.

You might find it worth a nosey - we take turns to read a few pages to each other when we can stay awake long enough.

After the hotel. Whoof. Well, initially we'll be renting a small place. If we move before tadpole arrives, we hope to stay within the catchment for the local hospital. If after, then we're probably heading for Glasgow as you get an extra bedroom for your rent compared to Edinburgh.

Long term: we want to return to the tourist industry, but this time in a guesthouse rather than a hotel. It's the public bar which really ties you to a place, and creates most of the hassle in terms of paperwork, employees etc.

DH will probably look for a job in a kitchen in the meantime - he says he's not ready for much more than sous-chef based on the size of our tiny restaurant (22 covers) and he's probably right. Still, chefs are very employable, so that's one good thing. Before we did this, he had worked in TV as a techy since he left uni and had zero self-confidence to boot. It's almost worth the £200 000 loss to have seen him blossom the way he has here .

BeachBunni · 13/07/2007 14:02

thelady I have a friend who's a chef and there always seems to be jobs going which is good. The long hours and late nights seem a bit of a downer but I'm sure you are used to that by now. My brother and best friend both live in Edinburgh and the prices to rent and cost of living both seem to be pretty shocking - you don't get much for your money.

Hmmm - might check out that book and see if it's worth a read. Tbh I'm not particularly concerned about our relationship (may get my eyes opened when the baby arrives though). We've both been through A LOT in the seven years we've been together, it's taken a lot of work but we've come out stronger for it in the end. I come from the viewpoint that relationships aren't plain sailing and do take a lot of time and effort to make them work. I suppose I saw my own parents go through a very rocky patch and now they're more in love than they ever were. We're even talking about setting a date for the big day now - think it may be about three years before we're able to afford it though!!

Nbg · 13/07/2007 14:48

Hiya everyone

Just got back from my 20 week scan, everythings ok and we're having another boy.
Definatley no mistaking that it was a boy!
I've never seen anything so clear in my whole life!!!
But the main thing is that it was moving around and v healthy.

PeckaRolloverAgain · 13/07/2007 14:52

YAYAYAYA Been waiting for you to post NBG

So thrilled for you - got any good pics?

GIRLS> I am at the moment toying with the idea of booking a gender scan privately. I just CANT WAIT to find out and also would love an extra scan for reassurance.

~Votes please? I have called them and they have an appointment on monday which is my wedding anniversary so thought that would be a nice gift to each other!!

What do you think??? YES or NO

(NHS scan in 4 weeks btw)

MotherofZ · 13/07/2007 15:13

nbg - lovely that you know what you are having , now you have to start thinking of boys name...

Pecka - why not - if it puts your mind at rest..