November 2017 #5. You wait ages for a baby, then 3 come along at once. Ante/post-natal chat ...

[Zampa]

No specific post-natal category so I've added it to the normal ante-natal category ...

Oh @lydia I’m so sorry that sounds awful :( poor Liliana! The wind is the worst! Seeing them in so much pain makes you feel so helpless doesn’t it. Do you have parents nearby that could maybe come round and hold her for an hour or two so you can try and catch up? And ouch to the broken coccyx! How did you do that? Xx

I just came back from the kitchen having left Matilda on her play mat and found her half on her side nearly rolled over 😳 surely it can’t happen so soon?

Having another baby is my worse nightmare! Maybe I'll change my mind in time, at the moment I'm still traumatised by a horrid pregnancy and early dramatic arrival of Bea. I adore her and love her so much but I find this baby stage incredibly boring. I like older children.

Ah that’s understandable @sock. I’m one of those terrible people that is always looking for the next ‘thing’ to look forward to. Have found myself looking at new houses too! I really just need to stop and enjoy what I have for five minutes! Don’t get why I’m like this 🙄

Thanks @Hazandduck broken coccyx was during labour :( and fractured pubic bone too! It is truly brutal isn't it?!! I love the cute newborn phase @theotherendofthesockportal apart from the lack of sleep obvs! I'm at a new level of tired today and very tearful. I'll be ok just need a decent few hours sleep!
Hope everyone holding up ok January feels a bit miserable sometimes doesn't it?!!

Having said that @theotherendofthesockportal there's no way I could imagine having another baby right now!

@Hazandduck I have grand plans for my house. We moved here just over a year ago and my DH did a lot of renovations to it. It's not finished by any stretch of the imagination, so I spend my days getting inspiration of the Internet as a way of getting round the boredom, I then bombard DH with ideas when he gets home.

@lydiangel83 wow! That sounds incredibly painful, I didn't even know that could happen during giving birth! How are you feeling now?

@lydiangel83 sorry to hear you are feeling tearful! I hate January too, it always feels flat. I'm hoping things will improve next week when we start attending our first ever baby groups.

@theotherendofthesockportal apparently coccyx damage is relatively common but not breaking it. Think pushing down on to operating theatre table :( I think its combination of pain (nipples also on fire), exhaustion and the most unsettled baby we have experienced to date that makes me feel low :-/ it's my birthday at the end of the month so hoping to have things with baby better by then :-/

@lydiangel83 have you made plans for your birthday? Would it help you feel better if you do some birthday planning. I'm finding just taking each day as it comes with a baby. I'm hoping the exhaustion will ease off soon. I'm a moment of madness earlier I contemplated 1 day a week of day care, even though I can't afford it and deep down don't want to. I just want a break!

@lydia83 I absolutely didn't know that's something that could happen during labour, sounds so painful! I hope you feel better soon.

I actually usually like winter, but I've really been feeling the effects of the short days and almost constant darkness while I've been off work on maternity leave. I can't wait for Spring.

We're also going to our first baby group next week. I think it'll probably be completely wasted on 8 week old DD who will either sleep or cry through it but hey, it gets me out of the house and talking to other adults during the day so that's got to be worth a few quid.

Baby group wise, I really recommend Rhyme Time at your local library. It's free and you get to learn all the nursery rhymes and children's songs!

I didn't know about the coccyx thing either until after DD was born. I was a bit worried I might have broken it and/or my pubic bone but by week 4 they were definitely improving. Now DD is nearly 6w & I'm just getting the odd twinge if I get up too fast, move in an awkward way or try to do too much. I think it's one of those fun things that "they" don't tell you about until it happens to you!

I've had a hard day. DH has it in his head that we have to "do something" with the DC when he's home. This invariably involves some trip somewhere or other activity that always takes longer than planned & then dinner gets pushed back & the DC end up getting to bed late. Imagine nearly 2 weeks of that, coupled with a child with ASD who needs a relatively calm & consistent routine... then DH goes back to work leaving me with over-tired, out of routine children & a small baby who's decided she can't be put down at any point. DS2 is 4.5y & still wetting himself every day, or we have epic tantrums if we insist he goes to the toilet. I don't understand it - he was completely dry in the day for 6m but it's like we've gone back to square one! It's just so much to deal with by myself when I've been used to the extra support. DH commented that DS1 was so much easier to get to bed tonight than he has been the last week or so... I had to bite my tongue so hard not to point out that it was because he's been allowed to set his own, calm routine today & not had someone imposing "exciting" activities on him when he needed down time! DS2, OTOH, screamed for well over half an hour because DH wouldn't let him change his PJs after he was already wearing some.

Thanks @AccrualIntentions It's been 9'wks now and pain seems to have plateaued :-/

@Zampa thanks for recommending will check it out. Our library also do baby cinema - films at low volume for under 2 year olds may check that out some time!

@theotherendofthesockportal I asked our local leisure centre yesterday how old kids have to be for crèche, it's 6 weeks! Tempting to put her in there for an hour so I can have a swim and coffee in peace, is that bad?!

Ouch the coccyx thing sounds really painful! Hope it heals soon lydia and today is a better day for you. January is such a dark grim month anyway, add in sleep deprivation and it's not fun. I'm looking forward to Feb when the days get a bit longer. I've not been out doing as much walking as usual because DD has been home on school hols and have noticed that I feel worse for not getting out. We walked into town yesterday and as usual F started screaming in his Pram but DH was with us so experienced it for himself and how stressful it can be. We put my phone in the pram with white noise playing and that really helped, F even miraculously stayed asleep for 45 mins after we got home.

He's done an amazing 7 hour stretch of sleep tonight but he won't really settle after 4am and everytime I do put him down, DD comes in because she's woken up at 5am and needs a wee/can't find her teddy/can't sleep anymore/wants to go downstairs so generally I don't get any sleep after 4am.

@AGnu my DD is really unsettled at the moment. I think she could do with going back to school - she's off for 3 weeks which is too much really. Lack of routine plus adjusting to a new baby is getting to her.

Freddie has his 8 week jabs tomorrow - how have they been for those of you whose babies have had them?

Thanks @butterybollocks if is painful and feel quite sorry for myself as I know long healing process. Sounds like u have your hands full! Jabs ok but gave her 24 hrs of calpol after as precaution.

@lydiangel83 an hour swim and coffee by yourself sounds amazing! I would definitely do it if my leisure centre offered that service. I'm starting swimming again this Sunday and I can't wait. I'm planning to shift 2 and a half stone this year.

It's day 2 if our new routine. We get up at 7.30, I'm hoping it will encourage a good night of sleep for both me and Bea. Wish us luck!

Good luck @theotherendofthesockportal I had to wake Liliana up this morning as had to go to dentist - typical! She was still squirming in pain tho, even in her sleep :-/ xx

Has anyone heard from some of the other formerly frequent posters like @redfragglebiker and @stuckinny? Hope all went ok.

@gingerhanna has also been quiet.

I think of everyone often.

@butterybollocks Iris had her 8 week jabs today. The rotavirus drops have given her awful trapped wind & she is screaming in agony, it's horrible seeing her in so much pain. I've just given her another dose of calpol as the first one did seem to help so fingers crossed this one does too. If all else fails I'll take her out in the car to help her sleep.

@lydiangel83 I'm planning on joining a gym in the next few weeks that has a crèche so I can get a couple of hours to myself a week & get fitter in the process. Just need to get some gym clothes that fit first! It's important to have a few hours to yourself so you can be you and not just mummy. I went on a spa half day on Friday, it was lovely to relax & have some time to myself, even if DSiL & I spent most of it talking about our children!

@Topsyloulou sorry to hear it but that is interesting as Liliana has had terrible wind for last few days and now that I think about it it started 2-3 days after injections. Wonder if related?

@Topsyloulou mother in law thinks 9/10 wks is too young to leave in crèche so will have to keep it quiet!

@lydiangel83 broken coccyx are just horrendous so you have my sympathy. I broke mine about 7 years ago coming off a young horse and it was agony. It can still twinge occasionally if I sit on something cold but I would say after 4 weeks I sort of forgot about it.

We are in for a sleepless night tonight. J had his first jabs today and has been so poorly with them. We have been using calpol but he is just so unhappy and just keeps whimpering and crying. He never cries normally unless he is hungry so this is so very upsetting to hear and nothing I do seems to comfort him.

Aww @DuRezidal poor baby, I guess just comfort him is all you can do :( I hope it passes quickly. Bit worrying what you say as I'm 8.5 wks in now and still hurts like hell whenever I sit on a hard chair. Need to find the energy to write a complaint letter to hospital as I think my Labour was poorly managed. This may trigger a review of my case at least

Anyone have any experience of bronchiolitis? Just had lo weighed and the nurse thought she had it. We have our 6 week check tomorrow but wondered if anyone knew how I could help baby out with symptoms in the interim.