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[derlor]

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Oh sweetie, you HAVE been taked over - bloody hormones! Wonder if there's anything homeopathic you can take ... I'm going to sort my remedies for giving birth out so I'll have a look if you like. Perhaps you've some antenatal depression in there - hate to label it, but I think it exists. Or perhaps you just need to get the hell out of work and focus on yourself. Sounds like there's been a lot going on with you lately. Hope you are OK. Finish up, and have a nice time this evening! xx

I'd thought about a trip to a homeopath...or have a look jn Boots as they do quite a range...anything is worth a try, as it seems to be getting worse not better. DH thinks that now (!) I've given up work things should be better as i won't be stressed and worried. He thinks last night was down to me not getting things finished na dhaving to come into the office today.
He says he's coming over here at 3:30 and whatever I haven't been able to deal with is going in the shredder nice idea, but....
I'm gonna do a bit more exercise now I'm a lady of leisure...that should help.
Didn;t know there was such a thing as antenatal depression...thought I was just being a miserable cow
Well better get on or it'll all be in the shredder!

Hormones do funny things to your brain don't they daisy? You poor thing, hope you are feeling less stressed. I'm sure you'll be fine once lo is here and you are not pg any more.

I had a bit of an emotional night as well. I went to bed and for some reason got really stressed out and tearful. Dp fell asleep, started snoring and I ended up sleeping on the floor in dd's room. I was crying so hard I thought I was going to wake her up! I am now typing with shaking hands. I am so angry with dp's youngest. They have gone to park to play cricket and I've just been upstairs to tidy up and he has bloody wet the bed and just left it covered with the duvet. I am so cross. There is no way I'm dealing with disgusting boy piss so I've just left it. Dp can deal with it when he gets back. What makes me crosser is the fact that if I hadn't seen it he would have just left it again and slept in it tonight and then I probably would have discovered it sometime next week. It is vile and dd plays on that bed as it is the top bunk and she loves climbing on it.

Grrr....sorry, there is my rant over!!
Hope everyone is well and not stressed!

Lol at your police story doggus, sometimes you can't help but flirt with a man in uniform! I'm sure you looked very beautiful despite the interesting clothing!

Sorry guys, x post there! There is a supplement you can take for stress, but I can't remember what it is called. My mum used to have loads of homeopathic stuff, but it was years ago. Boots pharmacists seem to know a lot. I've spoken to them about homeopathy before and they've had some recommendations. May be worth a go.

Thank kids....just been lurking on some of the AND threads...gotta get this work done and out of the way, or I'll be back here on Monday at this rate!!

That sould have said thanks not thank...I swear my fingers are getting worse, but I think its just fluid retention!

BOYS ARE DISGUSTING. Shame it's your bed in your house Holly, or just leave it forever - even pigs don't sleep in their poo (not the same as wee I know, but the principle is similar).
Antenatal depression does exist - I know this for a fact (having had it EVERY BLOODY PG) and was thinking I would maybe take the black cloud of doom and go back on the AND support thread and leave you all in peace. Looks like there is no need (just yet anyway. Not that I'm implying what that sounded like but I'm sure you know what I really meant - I hope. God, can't even form sensible sentence) Glad everyone is present this morning (have been watching but didn't want to be only saddo posting on a weekend - that wasn't meant to be offensive either- I HAVE NO LIFE).
Hope we all have the best weekend we can have considering ... everything.
Homeopathy (sp?) for labour sounds interesting - where can I look for info?
My local health authority is surveying antenatal depression at the moment. I had to fill in a questionnaire at my booking in appointment. Maybe it's just 'cos it's grim up North...

Well good morning/afternoon everyone. Glad to see the entire gamut of life has been discussed whilst I've been away - step children, peeing, shopping, holidays and, of course, extrememely chocolately biscuits (sorry Doggus!! ). have been taking it v. easy since yesterday - have finally cottoned onto the fact that I'm pregnant and I have to rest more (I know it's obvious but I'm one of those people who just says 'yeah, sure, whatever' and carries on as normal). So lots of lying on the sofa and no more walking to my studio every day (coudln't understand why I was so knackered when I got there I coudln't do any work... Duh).
Really sympathise with all of you with step children problems. But good for your DH/DPs for being fathers (when they're allowed). It must be so easy to just walk away...
Re. peeing, must share story from bf of many years ago (not DH; one before). Have always been very big on shoes, and I used to have floor to ceiling shelves full of them. ONe night, bf had been out drinking with friends - I woke up to see him standing in front of my lovely shoe shelves about to pee all over them. Have never got out of bed more quickly... And he didn't even remember it in the morning...

Sorry, forgot to say WELCOME BACK LILKEL, have fun in Germany, and Sputnik, hope everything's okay. I know they can stitch the cervix if they're worried about it (they do it with twins sometimes in the 2nd trimester if the pregnancy's at risk) - if mw didn't suggest it, hopefully means she's not worried?

studio sounds arty...what do you do Marylou?

mummyjx - homeopathy for childbirth was recommended by my MV first time round at antenatal classes. Took one type two weeks before which was meant to help bring on labour - and DS1 was born on the day (caulphyllium, I think it was). Arnica tablets, and there was one called Kali Carb which was meant to help sleeping during pregnancy if I remember rightly. I was on checking it out on the WWW the other night by the Welenda site isn't up and running properly. Neals Yard do a child birth kit containing lots of things for about 30 quid, but there's no information on what exactly is in it, helpfully.

Holly, that's yuk. Is he doing it for attention? He must be embarrassed by it, surely. Does he do it at home? Has DP asked him about it? He's a bit old for that isn't it? must be a problem somewhere.

Daisy, get your work done and fuck off out of there, your DH might have a point!

As for me, have aches and pains all up my left side. Which is the side I've got varicous veins on.

Oh shit, the little horrors are throwing mash around the kitchen. God, kids are annoying.

oh god, had to shout at them and leave because I was going to PMSL. there is mash everywhere. Right, serious angry mother mood right about now.....

oh dear girlies you are having a shite time of it huh - Holly i just cried reading your post about you crying all by yourself on your dd's floor.
i'm wondering if it is 'st johns wort' - the homeopathic stuff you were thinking about for stress/depression?? not sure if you can take it while pg but worth asking in boots or somewhere.
i haven't had antinatal depression but i did suffer for 2 years from post natal depression after my ds and it was the worst time of my life so i really do sympathise with you while you are struggling to control your feelings and emotions.
least you can sound off on here and get plenty of sympathetic understanding virtual mum's listening to you. x

Ha Derlor...is that virtual mums cos we're on here or virtual mums cos some are nearly, but not quite mums yet ...see trying to put a brave face on the day, but am sitting here surrounded by boxes and paperwork (and still haven't tidied up the project I'm handing over) and I just want to cry.
LOL at the mash everywhere tho foxy...DS sometimes does things that you know you shouldn't laugh at but just can't help yourself..tehy are annoying little buggers, but can be cute and endearing when they want to..

Oh, and it cost me £285 yesterday to get my car fixed....if I hadn't knocked that wall over I could've had a bloody bugaboo

holly....missed your post. R U OK? we need to orgainise a meet up so we can all give each other real hugs instead of virtual ones.
(sends lots of (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) anyway)

Daisy, are you a bit sad about leaving work and saying goodbye to the 'professional' daisy? I know you've done it before and its not forever, but I was wondering if its anything to do with leaving something behind? Must be hard. Do you feel OK about going from 1 to 2?

I'm just wondering if its all getting a bit much and seems insurmountable?

As for Mashgate, I just had a huge Jekyll and Hyde moment. From cracking up seeing them having mash in their hair, I turned into a screaming banshee in tears. No easter bonnets or easter nests now as i've had to scrub the radiator. Am still shaking even after 3 bits of toberlerone and a cup of tea. DS2 laughed at me, which is what I think tipped me over the edge. To be fair, he wasn't laughing at me, he was trying to goof his way out of it, which usually works for him because he's so cute. DS1 put his head down and got on with eating his fish without a complaint, knowing when to tow the line. Poor DD was really concerned. I hate it when its the children asking if I'm alright and 'do I need a cuddle?'! Now I feel shite.

derlor, hows DD? Chicken pox or virus?

Gosh, you lot sound like you are having a right old time of it.

Daisy did you see the AND thread under antenatal groups (hasn't been added to for a while I don't think) it was a really old thread I searched for and reinstated a while back as I thought I had AND (doctor says I don't - I'm just 'anxious') might be worth a read even if it's just to see that you are not unusual in the way you are feeling. I know it's crap at the moment and we are just not our real selves. I hate that my body isn't reacting the way it used to, and emotionally I can't deal with even the tiniest of things. I hope you feel better now you have finished work, Very can't wait to leave mine, just finding it all a huge strain. Hope you pack up and go soon! You're not alone - see, even v cool foxy has been having a wobble too!

H&A, what a shitty weekend for you too. Step families are so difficult, I don't envy you one bit. Hope your DP sorts out the bed, and those stinky boys. Can you stop him drinking before bedtime? I know it's difficult when he is actually quite old. Does he do it at his mum's?

Foxy, sorry you spent your afternoon cleaning mash potato up! Good idea on the chocolate front though. I have another lindt bunny in my fridge, quite tempted by it now...

foxy...i love the way you ask after everyone before telling us your woes....you are a love. hopre you're feeling better....try tthe whole bar!! Aren't these hormones just bloody horrible, why we do it I'll never know.
I am a mass of conflicting emotions at the moment, and am a bit sad about leaving the professional me behind, but I've been struggling with it all for ages now, even before I got pg. i want to be the best wife, the greatest mum, and a shit hot structural engineer to boot, but at best am feebly managing to do all three. I know that being off is going to do wonders for the wife and mum bit, but at the same time....I really envy these women who seem to have it all, and can do it all without much of an effort. Anyway, have cancelled tonight...pg a great excuse, and instead am taking my boys to see the new 'turtles' movie....going for gold on the greatest mum stakes

Bumper...had a read through that post and was surprised to see so many familiar names on it....I also had a bit of a read of stuff and ordered a book from Amazon. Also found a R4 recording about it. Think I will def see the doctor. they know my history after all so I don't think I'll be waved aside.

I read a really depressing article in the guardian a while back (entitled 'having a baby will ruin your career'!) saying that working and being a mum means that you never quite feel like you are doing either job v well. If you are a SAHM at least you can say you are being the best mum possible. I'm feeling the same conflict as you (though I don't have any other DCs yet) that as much as I want this baby and want to be a good mum I also spent 5 years at uni, am in a great job, and after LO is born I will probably work PT which will affect my promotion prospects and mean that I have to think twice about taking on any exciting opportunities like travel etc. Sounds really selfish doesn't it, but I think we are just bought up nowadays to expect more for ourselves as women.

I bet you are doing sterling job at being a mum and an structural engineer (wow - sounds impressive) at least now you've finished you have some time just to not think about work for a while and concentrate on your family. I really feel for you and how you are feeling, there is just such a lot going on for us all at the moment and we are meant to take it all in our stride!

Do you know, my eldest feels curiously let down because I don't have a job and so he doesn't go to after-school club like all his friends!
I think we're all in a generally no-win situation here.
I am also the only SAHM/non-working mum in my immediate family circle and I can tell my MIL disapproves (she had a job and waist length hair and was very thin and had four boys under five - you know what it's like!). The only person who does think I'm ok is my mum (she didn't have a "job" as such, she was a farmers wife so was always at home).
Men have it SO easy... don't they?
But even so, I would like to think I am being the best mum I can be. (But just at the moment I don't actually do an awful lot!!!!!!!!!)

Perhaps I need a proper job then I would have less time to be so introspective and miserable?

Sounds like we're all on the crest of a hormonal wave here. Daisy, try and concentrate on getting the hell out. Once you're rid of the stress of work things should get a lot easier.

foxy, don't know how you cope with 3. I'm finding it hard enough with 1, you are doing brilliantly.

H&A, huge hugs to you, you've had your space invaded, I hate that when it happens to me. I was crying last night too, DD woke me up coughing, I couldn't go back to sleep for hours, started thinking about all the worst possible scenarios, going into premature labour etc etc.

Today I had to face invasion of the inlaws who had invited themselves round and was getting into a state about that too. I have to admit though that once I told them the situation (and I'm not good at admitting that maybe everything isn't going fabulously) they were great and wouldn't let me get up from the sofa. Turns out my BIL has a SIL who had to stay lying down for 6 months because of a problem like mine.

Now I'm more alert to it I have felt some small contractions, but I've had so many aches and pains recently in the under bump region recently, thought it was just my strained ligaments and muscles. Hopefully the medicine they gave me and a bit of rest will sort things out.

daisy and bumper i kwym about the job thing i managed to work full time, put myself through a degree and also take 2 diplomas when i only had ds also at that time my dh worked away from home every 2 weeks for 2 weeks - look back and wonder how the hell i managed but you just do don't you - well for so long anyway! ( i also had undiagnosed pnd at the time and was a bit of a nutter to put it mildly!!) anyway i ended up having almost a complete breakdown and had to just stop EVERYTHING.
took me a while but got my life into perspective and 1st thing i did was reduce my days at work to 3 a week - it felt brilliant, scary at first but SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better.
Now i am in a fairly new role within my career, work 2.5 days a week which i love. i feel it is enough time for me to feel like me and forget that i am mummy but i also love my time that i do spend as mummy cause i have found the right balance. I am lucky that i work for the NHS which is very working mother friendly but hope you can manage to get something suitable for you in your workplace.
well i'm just back from the park with my ds, dd and my friend and her 2 lo's. very pleasant afternoon indeed. park was mobbed - typical 1st sign of sun on a scottish weekend and every man and his dog rushes to the park! we don't get too much sun up here you know so have to make the most of it
Foxy thanks for asking amidst your mashed potato hell - dd's spots still visible but not really come to anything so just a viral rash me thinks (phew) toblerone mmmmmmmmm

spoke too soon. I am Ria-from-Butterflies (without the bloke on the side - can't be bothered). The boys tea was the most "disgusting" meal they have ever been served (I cannot say eaten as they didn't) and [poking with spoon in manner of a chisel] the custard was "a bit hard".
Why do we bother?
'Til later...