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Due April 2007 - Pregnant women aren't just walking wombs on legs

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Ellieump · 04/03/2007 23:01

We all seem to be having a tough time of it in one way or another so this seemed quite appropriate somehow!

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mammyjo · 06/03/2007 17:55

Emmy, glad the police have been good. So unfair though that you have to pay the excess. My car was bumped in a car park once when I wasnt around. They bashed in the front wheel arch so I could barely open the passenger door. Nobody left a note and I had to fork out the £150 excess as the damage bill was over £800

Emmymummy · 06/03/2007 18:11

I know Mammyjo, we've had that a couple of times with cars - last year dh's car was totally bashed in in his car park at work. He is convinced it was a Securicor van that did it (the paint scrapes on the car were the same colour as their vans) and he even spotted the van he thinks did the damage (it had our car's paint scraped along its bumper). But would Securicor own up?

octopussyintummy · 06/03/2007 18:14

Evening all

Good luck 1B3 - maybe its time for the April twins to make an appearance!!!! oogggs - good they haven't talked about induction - no need really I suppose at this stage. BIL has to have an operation to have his gall bladder out - not sure if he has to stay in or they will send him home and add him to a waiting list.

Re mothers/MIL - my MIL pointedly told me once that she was a perfect mother

Emmymummy · 06/03/2007 18:18

Octopussy - what on earth prompted your MIL to make that comment?

octopussyintummy · 06/03/2007 18:25

she doesn't need any prompting - she full of useful gems like that!

octopussyintummy · 06/03/2007 18:25

I can't wait to get my tits out in front of them to breastfeed guffaw

flumppootle · 06/03/2007 18:26

ROLF octo [grin

Eddas · 06/03/2007 18:27

Emmy, hadn't thought about nesting, maybe, never had nesting instinct with dd but you may well be right. Oo does that mean baby will come out soon?!

Octo, that's a very strange comment, take it that it wasn't tongue in cheek?

My MIL is great, step mother isn't really. Don't think she's the motherly type(she does have 2 children). My mum was great IMO, but is no longer about which makes me sadder on days like today when i really need her.

Eddas · 06/03/2007 18:28

[bluch] Octo!!!!

Eddas · 06/03/2007 18:28

Octo!!!!

muminabigtumi · 06/03/2007 18:30

My goodness - what a lot has happened this afternoon!

OOgs and 1b3 - Good luck to you both am thinking of you and hope all is ok

Emmy - I am horrified at what happened to you alast night - thats really terrible - stuff like that makes my blood boil.

MMK - thanks for all the breastfeeding info - I too will print off and keep for future reference.

Eddas - glad you are feeling a bit brighter after your trip to the park.

Mammyjo - hope the twinges have settled a bit

Well someone must have been looking out for me today as Sky man came and went without major incident and was VERY tidy and also my cot top changer came at the same time so I didn't have to sit in all day after all - managed to get out and do a bit of gardening - although now in absolute agony!!

Phil has come home early full of a cold (explains the snoring) and has got the spare duvet out ready to sleep downstairs tonight so at least we may have a chance of us both getting some sleep.

Right best go and bath the boy and get him to bed so I can get my roast lamb dinner - YUMMMMM!
xxxx

Hopefully will get on later
x

octopussyintummy · 06/03/2007 18:30

Well - she has so much to say for herself think it may be the only thing that will silence her!

octopussyintummy · 06/03/2007 18:32

Oh Eddas - get you now - you were talking about her comment about being perfect mother - no - not tongue in cheek - she meant it and was aimed at me! Thought you meant about my bf comment!

maveta · 06/03/2007 18:46

Phew! mammoth day at work over and just caught up with you all aswell. mmk..looks like some great info, going to print and read aswell.. 1b3 and ooogs hope everything is going okay with you both..emmymummy - little shits! once a group of teens (and we KNOW who it was) broke the back window of our car for absolutely no reason, was parked in the village car park. Had to pay 200 euros to get it fixed.

I´m so sorry, I can´t remember anymore now.. thought I had retained more than I obviously have.

Had a good day with the boss, was nice to see her again and we do get on really well even if she can be a mercenary be-atch at times. She´s obviously still not going to offer me any maternity pay but there´s little point arguing it as she´s not obliged to. I do think she´ll want me to do the odd hour or two of work from home here and there which she´ll have to pay me for, of course, which is kind of good because we´re going to need the money. In an ideal world of course I wouldn´t even think about work for the whole 6 months but.. ho hum. In the world we actually live in it´s good to know that there might be work to be had if I´m up for it. And we have left it exactly as ´IF I´m up for it´ so there´s no obligation either. Not to say there won´t be pressure..but I can always not answer the phone

Off to make dinner and then will be back to see if we have any news on the twins!

babysopiniontakesover · 06/03/2007 19:10

Just thought I'd run an update past you lot, see if anyone else is feeling the same!

Officially 5 weeks to go and TBO am now very officially crapping it.....BUT...

Am very glad that this whole scenario will now eventually be over and very much, like the rest of you alcoholic lot, looking forward to:

1- Drinking copious amounts of both red and white wine without the GUILT TRIP!

Not a big spirits drinker but still looking forward to a very large brandy and baileys with ICE.

2 - Being able to eat sensibly once again in attempt to lose all this baby fat that I have aquired.

4- Being able to eat peanuts/snickers/peanut butter melting onto toast.

5 - Being able to order NON PREGNANCY clothes from next.

6 - Being able to walk into a shop without someone feeling really sorry for you and saying "are you ok".

7 - Being able to WALK and take my DS to the park again.

8 - To not being a prisoner in my own home.

9 - To the extra amount of money the government kindly give you in the first 12 months of having your baby!

10 - Being able to go to the gym/swimming/running and getting those feel good hormones circulating.

11 - Sex? no maybe not. Not for a while anyway let's face it.

12 - To the thought of never having morning sickness again - ever!!!

Bugmum · 06/03/2007 19:49

Forgive me if this is already in MMK's mammoth post (bound to be, I guess ), and I have posted about this before - a long time ago, before we had real bumps, I think - but it's sometimes useful to get people's RL experiences, isn't it?

I BFed DS for a year; six months exclusively, then six alongside solids, no formula. I am categorically not a Jersey Cow type; never got the really huge norks (big for me, but everything is relative ) and I never leaked once. This made me worry that I didn't have enough milk, of course, but nonetheless DS grew from whatever did come out of my own personal breasts.

Top tip: swaddling. Even if you don't want/ you baby doesn't want to use this for sleeping (though I think it's a great precursor to the Grobag myself), my HV explained that it stops the baby's arms flailing and ensures a better grip. You only need to do this for the first few weeks.

Second tip: little fingers. Whenever BF is really hurting, it is likely to be because the latch is bad; as soon as it starts to hurt more than a little, hook your little finger into LO's cheek and s/he will instantly detach. NEVER, no matter what the temptation, simply pull him off [watery eyes emoticon]

Third tip: when getting BFing established, try the (nauseating yet useful) mantra my MW taught me: Nose to nipples and tummies to mummies. The LO should have a nice open mouth (you can kind of juggle your boob to help him achieve this), with more of the bottom part of your nipple in his mouth than the top. Again, once you and he know what you are doing, you don't have to think about this and can simply shove him up your jumper.

Fourth tip: it is likely that you will have to put up with very, very frequent feeding at first (DS was every 90 mins - 2 hours); this is normal, if exhausting, and WILL settle down, but you do need to go with it. I've bought a ring sling to help with that this time around, as those who know about those things tell me it makes a big difference, especially if you have other kids to look after.

Fifth tip: remember that all over the world, most babies are bfed; we are so unconfident about it here because we so seldom see our rellies and friends and random people doing it, so normal stuff - conversations about latching etc - rarely happen. Don't be afraid to make them happen with other mums at mother & baby groups etc.

Sixth tip: good nipple cream. I echo the recommendations for Lanisoh (sp??). Slather it on, right from before the second feed. Lovely stuff.

I am hoping to bf again; okay, there might be reasons why it can't happen - who knows? But all things being equal, I intend to try and I intend my default position to be that I will succeed, iyswim. If I don't, there will be a reason that is likely to be medical rather than psychological.

Hope this doesn't sound arrogant; I know there are people on this thread who have had a horrid time with bfing, but I do suspect that for many, it has had to do with poor advice and help. I was lucky, I had great help. A mate of mine, btw, was helped enormously with painful, engorged breasts by an NCT BF counsellor, who basically came and held her boobs and did strange things until all was well again, and she was able to continue to bf. So a good counsellor can be great (although I hear some are not so good, so if you don't like yours, trust your instincts).

Anyway, thought I'd post this for what it's worth, and hope I haven't upset anyone unwittingly

maveta · 06/03/2007 19:50

LOL - like the name.. for my part I can´t wait to...

  • eat jamon serrano and fuet and paté and feta cheese and..and..and home made CHOCOLATE MOUSSE!
  • do anything without being asked ´should you be doing that?´
  • have a really hot bath without worrying I am boiling my baby
  • wear my normal clothes
  • drink of wine and beer and vodka with anything
  • hug my dh properly really really hard without him becoming almost a foot shorter than me as his body curves around my bump
  • sleep on my back, or my tummy or any bloody way I want (though just sleeping at all would be a great start)

I CAN´T WAIT!

maveta · 06/03/2007 19:55

xposted bugmum, great post and fab advice, will print yours out too and am sure it will get referred back to many a time. Not offended in the slightest by any and all advice anyone more experienced can share! x

babysopiniontakesover · 06/03/2007 19:56

Nice one maveta - forgot about those ones and thanks for reminding me:

Sleeping on tummy and back, though your tummy feels all squishy for the first few weeks, or lets face it months bit like an extra cushion.

Jamon serrano - not sure about that one sounds very spanishy to me? Something to do with ham perhaps? Sounds like the french jambon.

Lol at the hot bath without boiling the baby, thats always been a worry too.

In fact EVERYTHING is a worry!

Bugmum · 06/03/2007 20:01

Glad you think the post will be useful, Maveta

I am looking forward to nice long walks with the baby and DS; my SPD hasn't been letting me walk much and it's driving me (ha!) crazy!! I'm the type who gets really down without enough exercise, you know?

Oh, and re the wine etc? I'm afraid to tell you I used to be a serious party girl, but since being PG with DS (he is now two) I have been a serious lightweight Heigh ho, at least I'm a cheap date now...

maveta · 06/03/2007 20:24

yes jamon serrano is the spanish version of parma ham. I love ALL cured meats..mmmm...

Bugmum - I know what you mean, I´ve always been a lightweight anyway so this is mostly big talk, I´ll probably get halfway down the first glass of red and slide off the sofa slurring to myself And with summer setting in not long after the birth it will be too hot here for exercise but yes, as soon as the temps dip again I can´t wait to get out and get some again.

muminabigtumi · 06/03/2007 20:39

Bugmum - thanks for the info...I really want to give BF ing a really good try this time so that will help me enourmously too!

I can certainly joing the lightweight crew...and can't say I'll be dying to get back to any exercise.....

Am dreading what the state of my c section overhang is going to be like second time round.... I'm sure I've said it before but my stomach is like a saggy elephants scrotum as it is ....

Had a horrible bathtime tonight with James - had to just walk away and cry - I think it is tiredness on both our parts but I just lost my patience totally with him and I was scared at how cross I felt - I had to just leave him and let Phil take over...makes me worry about what I'll be like with 2 .

Poor Phil has Man Flu - he has duvet and pillows at the ready to go ont he sofa tonight if he snores as I cannot cope without any more sleep....I have given him sympathy and made his tea and washed up so he cannot complain but I really feel like I need some TLC tonight - just feel weary...
I am ready and I want this baby now!!!

At least I know I won't be going overdue - don't remember being this impatient this early last time....

I too will look forward to sleeping on back (can't sleep on side after section anyway)
I think I will look forward to also not aching - my back and hips make me feel like an old woman and everything now seems a big effort.

I will however miss the kicks and squiggles when they are not there any more as I do find them comforting...but baby being there will more than make up for that.
x

WestCountryLass · 06/03/2007 20:40

Really am sympathising with everyones various problems (Eddas, EmmyMummy etc...)

Octo, what is happening with schools? I must have missed something? We are having our own school issue here as DSs school is a pile of pants and there are "leadership issues". I am now in the process of looking at other schools and nursery places for DD, which I could really do without this right about now!

I have to say I am not looking forward to anything or desperate for this pregnancy to end. I am feeling pretty good now and as this is probably my last baby I am determined to enjoy it

Sexonslightlypuffylegs · 06/03/2007 20:58

My God ladies, you can talk!

So much to catch up!!

Oogs, really hope you are ok and the hospital are treating you like a princess. Hang on in there.

1b3, hope everything is ok with you sweetie. Let us know.

Emmymummy, what a frightening experience for you all. Hope you have no more bother again the little buggers.

MIABT, hope you are ok and get a good nights sleep tonight.

Opinions, loved the post - so true!

God, I cannot remember anything else. I know lots of you have been feeling hacked off with dh's or feeling ropy. My thoughts are with you.

I have been on a bit of a downer this evening. Just feel the same as everyone else really - hacked off with being uncomfortable and incapable of doing the smallest thing without being exhausted. Also feel peed off with the fact the I want to nest but have no energy and feel physically incapable. Dh keeps saying I have to accept I need to slow down and stuff is not going to get done, but he just doesn't understand - stuff needs to get done! I had a good old rant when he came home, and Becky came over and cuddled me and said it's alright mummy. Bless her heart; she is an angel.

Right, sorry for the rant.

Bugmum · 06/03/2007 21:21

MIABT - Oh, it isn't that I want to get back to exercise for its own sake or because I'm so concerned about being trim - just I get depressed without it. I don't mean I'm normally out there pumping iron five nights a week! Mind you, my Sis-in-Law is a real health nut these days: no refined sugar at all, and the gym every day. She and her hubby came to us for Christmas but stayed at a nearby hotel, and even on Christmas Day itself, she was in the gym first thing, and wouldn't have a single choccie

Hope all you ladies (including me) sleep well tonight, and that all the nasty things that have been happening sort themselves out.

Blimey, I feel like a hippo today (she says, stuffing French bread and choc spread - see, it's organic so it must be good for me). Oh well.
xx