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WishIWasSleeping · 13/11/2016 16:39

Oh, obviously I do know how! Grin

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PeachIcedT · 19/11/2016 17:45

I haven't been on here for a short while and so much to catch up on!

I'm still on for the meet up on the 24th.

Lovely to see the most recent scans! KJW I would guess girl from your scan.

In terms of prams, my sister has a pram from around 5/6 years ago (the iCandy Apple I think) which if in decent enough condition I will gladly use, especially knowing it cost £1k new! Though I know zero about other models.

Today was my first experience of a nearly new sale, which I had scared myself by reading about beforehand, with mentions of elbowing and mayhem, but it was quite civilised. A short queue and a small entry charge (more free Pregnacare tablets) and then once inside the newborn clothes were so cute but not hugely gender neutral. I have strong suspicions on the sex anyway and picked up a few practical items at a bargain price. I'm hoping to use as much second hand stuff as I can.

FoxMulder · 19/11/2016 18:06

Not convinced all terrain prams are really all terrain. Ours is supposed to be but I tried it on the paths round here once (muddy, rocky) and it tipped straight over. It is a few years old though so they may have improved. Still comfortably carry DS sometimes although he can walk for miles now.

Sipperskipper · 19/11/2016 18:19

We're looking at the bugaboo buffalo - we do lots of country / beach / coast dog walks and seems like a good option for this. Think its quite bulky but I don't use public transport so don't need anything super compact. I agree, prams / slings / carriers etc are a minefield!!

teainbed · 19/11/2016 20:09

I bought a massive crap travel system for my first DC which I really regretted as it was just rubbish, heavy and expensive.

Then I had a Quinny Speedi for my last two which was brilliant off road. Also had a cheap umbrella fold pushchair which I used quite a lot. I gave the Quinny away, not sure what I'll do this time.

Also used a variety of slings and a rucksack style carrier which were great for school runs and quick trips to the shops or the doctors.

Re books, I read them all first time round. I really liked The Baby Whisperer and tried her stuff with my first, it's a routine but a lot more flexible than GF. He happened to be a compliant baby but at the time I thought it was my parenting rather than his personality that had made it all work.

Next baby was lovely too and very easy, we didn't do any particular routine as we didn't need one and just did what felt right and apart from bedtimes it was all ok!

Finally my third was a nightmare. Velcro baby, wouldn't be put down, cried all the time, it's how I ended up on MN I was looking for ideas as nothing worked. I did read the Pantley book but didn't think it was particularly good. I ended up just muddling along and did a gradual retreat thing with her sleep at 10 months. She turned into a very secure and independent toddler and now 5 year old!

savagehk · 19/11/2016 20:41

On carriers, you can get carriers right up to pre-school age. We only got a lightweight stroller for our son when he was 2.5.

On Gina Ford... erm. We followed much more of an attachment style parenting method but quite frankly that was easiest.

I didn't go into making a rod for my own back or whatever, but in terms of slings, it means you have a contented baby and both hands free to do stuff.

We also co-slept (meant I didn't have to get out of bed to do the night feeds, which I think is much more disturbing to your sleep - by the end of pregnancy you will probably find you're sleeping very lightly anyway, and for me the night time feeds were an extension of that to some degree).

But - in short, do whatever works for you. No one else has your family setup, with your unique personalities (including the baby's!); or your own situations.

One of the authors (Dr Sears) who writes about attachment parenting has an interesting family background - him and his wife had 7 or 8 kids, in the end. They raised the first two 'normally' but the third was 'high needs' - wouldn't be put down, cried constantly etc. That's when they came up with various other methods that enabled them to keep living normally - she was calmer in a sling, etc, etc; and those are the methods they recommend in their books.

Northernexile · 19/11/2016 21:15

I'm not a massive fan of GF either. I'm sure it works for some, but mine- especially DD2- would not be put down awake, ever. It seemed to not work with bf on demand either. We fell into a routine by about 6 months both times. I co-slept for quite a while with DD2, and it saved my sanity! No Crystal Sleep Solution was pretty good I thought, and the Baby Whisperer.
Re prams, we live in the country and found carrying easier than pushing for dog walks etc. We have a couple of different carriers and would still back carry DD2 on occasion, at nearly two. A good carrier makes it pretty easy, even with a hefty toddler!

savagehk · 19/11/2016 22:03

Forgot to add that GF hasn't had any kids herself.

stationaryace · 19/11/2016 22:26

We bought the nice travel system last time (Uppababy Vista and the BeSafe Izi car seat) which I researched for ages, but then moved from UK to Australia for 6 months when DD was 4 months old and she was just as happy in the cheap baby jogger-copy version we got over there.

We've got a house full of stinking colds so I broke out the hot toddies tonight for DH and I. Won't be fessing up to the midwife next week but I should be able to sleep tonight.

I do love all these child-free baby experts Hmm

Badgerbird · 19/11/2016 23:33

When the twins I nanny for were babies the mum requested I follow Gina ford. It was challenging enough getting them both to sleep, then by the time they'd fallen asleep I'd have to get them back up again Confused Felt so guilty! It was 10 yrs ago so I don't remember exactly how but we settled into a routine somehow and they are gorgeous kids. Can't see me doing that with mine though.

raspberry I totally think you've gotta try whatever works best for your own family though and just find a way through which I'm sure you will :) mamushka I enjoyed reading your thoughts on it! Funnily enough I'd been saying the same re how it seems to raise independent kids with my mum earlier today.

Hey autumn great news that you had a good scan :) Hideously nervewracking after that experience isn't it! Glad you can start to enjoy it a bit more now.

lullaby23 · 20/11/2016 04:44

Agree with the frustration of reading a baby book and just not being able to follow the guide - DS just did not (and still doesn't!) ever exist in a state of 'drowsy but awake' - he is either wide awake or zonked out Grin

I must admit I am a bit jealous of friends whose babies slept through from a few weeks, usually formula fed. Having said that I am happy with my decision to BF (still going at 18m!) and intend to do the same for DC2 even if it means less sleep to begin with. Co-sleeping for a while definitely saved my sanity too oh and lying down feeds/naps in general, not much hope of that his time round!

Congrats on the scan autumn.

mummyplus7 · 20/11/2016 05:49

Been having so much trouble with headaches, getting a bit fed up. Hope everyone is going well.

SK28 · 20/11/2016 06:07

What a chatty bunch you all are! I didn't think I'd been away that long but I've missed loads! How exciting that we are now at the stage of talking about prams and everything Smile

For DD1 we bought an M&P Armadillo Flip travel system at the Baby Show and I love it. Unfortunately the country I live in now has terrible pavements and no dropped curbs and my lovely buggy couldn't cope so after we moved I got the cheapest thing that was suitable that I could easily find - a Mothercare 3 wheeler travel system - and I hate it. So heavy and difficult to steer. Every time we visit the UK I use my Armadillo and it makes me sad to leave it! Hoping we will move back before DC2 though and can use it again full-time.

I also had a Caboo which was a lifesaver in the early months. My DD1 barely slept unless in the Caboo and it was also great to have a no-pram option for quick trips out too. I moved to a Connecta when she was bigger. Have about 4 other slings and carriers too, but those two were my best investments.

So lovely to read some of you are meeting up! I was East London too before we moved so if we do end up moving back maybe I can join some meet-ups when the babies are here!

Adventuregame · 20/11/2016 07:03

Anyone have any thoughts on the lie flat car seats/carry cots. We'll be doing a lot of car driving to both sets of parents as they are unable to come to us and after reading about length of time babies should be in car seats I wondered if this would solve that but how safe are they ?

EsmesBees · 20/11/2016 07:10

Ah lullaby I remember that jealously well. But, overall, breastfeeding is such a wonderful experience, and thinking back, those early sleepless months go so quickly (although, it doesn't feel like that at the time!).

Both me and dd have been blighted by colds and cough this week. I also started a new job too so am very tired. Think I'll have to try and have a nap when she does later.

Sonnet18 · 20/11/2016 07:35

My DD was formula fed and didn't sleep through until 5 and a half months so I wasn't one of the lucky ones!

raspberry, the best thing to do it to wait and see how you get on with your baby. You say you plan to breastfeed but don't want a clingy baby...bf babies have only their mummy to rely on for food etc so you may find you'll be a bit more flexible than the Gina ford way. We did do controlled crying and were able to put DD down awake but it took quite a lot of stress, upset (both me and her!!) and strict routines. It has paid off as she's a brilliant napper and mostly sleeps 7pm-6am and is genuinely a very happy little girl. However, if she (and me!) hadn't been coping with the routine and the controlled crying then I would've given up!

growcookeat · 20/11/2016 08:12

Adventure I'm wondering the same as you about the car seats. A pg friend seems to think the advice is now 30 mins in a car seat which seems very short! Everything I have read is still saying 2 hours. We will use the car seat a lot and was hoping to use it on travel system too but don't want any problems for Baby if they're in it a while.

Anyone getting a lie flat seat? I can't seem to find many that will work with the silver cross (pioneer) as a travel system.

Off for a bit of retail therapy today with my mum who's recently moved back from abroad (great timing in her words!) - can't wait for some family time and possibly Christmas shopping!!

mightymouse76 · 20/11/2016 10:53

Happy Sunday everyone- this thread moves at the speed of light! Lurking on the pram/car seat chat as have zero experience. I'm learning from you lot!

Quick advice request- think I have a UTI as of yesterday (painful whilst peeing and after), plus soreness around abdomen. Oh and a nice, unrelated sore throat to boot.

Have any of you had a UTI during this or your previous pregnancies? I'm going to make a docs appointment first thing but any self care advice appreciated- I'm downing water but really uncomfortable.
Thanks all

FoxMulder · 20/11/2016 11:01

I don't think the lie flat car seats are supposed to be as safe in a crash as normal infant carriers. But that half hour rule is right until they are a month old, then it's two hours. The fb group 'car seat advice for mummies and daddies' is good despite the somewhat patronising name!

peasandquiet · 20/11/2016 13:24

Hi all, we have a uppababy vista, which i'm still using with number 1 hoping that by next may he will be trustable on a board so we don't have to bother with a double. My holiday pushchair is a BJ City Mini which is a good pushchair but it's nothing in comparison to my vista, the push is so much easier and the basket is HUGE, the only justifiable fault is it's big and heavy when folded, however that is all reflected in the use of it, no such thing as a big lightweight that copes well on rough ground! Car seat wise we have a pebble and will re-use that, just got to figure out the base conundrum as my son is in a 2way pearl ERF on the pebble's base and I don't want to pay £175 for another base if I can help it so may just buy him a new seat will be worrying about that next year!
The other thing I'm looking at is a co-sleeper crib. We got on terribly with a Moses basket 1st time round, and he was in his big cot by 8 wks old. think I want a snuzpod and know for sure we will be getting a sleepyhead.
I've got a stinking cold, no fun at all when you can't have any cold and flu drugs.
Hope everyone's having a good weekend?

peasandquiet · 20/11/2016 13:25

Mighty Mouse uti wise defo GP tomorrow for some treatment, hope your not feeling too rotten and if you get a temp or start to feel terrible call 111.

peasandquiet · 20/11/2016 13:26

Oh and I love a sling we have 3 Blush if anyone has and Q'a on them fire away!

savagehk · 20/11/2016 13:26

There aren't many lie flat car seats out there. I have half a thought a new one has recently come out though which may be worth looking at. This last week there was new research which is where the 30 min recommendation came from.

As an aside, rear facing for as long as possible is considered safest, you may want to look at a seat which lasts longer from birth than most do, rather than having to buy a new one fairly soon.

Flingmoo · 20/11/2016 14:54

Anyone else really hungry?! I am still getting a lot of nausea but all the time I'm actively stuffing my face with food I feel better. The second I swallow the last bite I'm hungry for more.

Today I've eaten a ridiculous amount of bread Blush

So far today, I've had:
1 slice of marmite on toast for breakfast
2 slices of bread with homemade carrot soup for lunch
2 slices of Philadelphia cheese on toast just now as a snack!

mightymouse76 · 20/11/2016 15:11

Thanks peas, will do

mamushka I'm the same- have to actively try not to overeat and make myself more sick! Twice this week I've been late for prior arrangements as I've had to detour to the brick lane beigel bake...and it's even that local...

mightymouse76 · 20/11/2016 15:12

'not' even that local!
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