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Due February 2017- thread #6

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Readyfortwo · 14/08/2016 19:40

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ScottishSnowflake · 26/08/2016 08:22

Morning all. I'm off for my 16w midwife appointment later today and having seen the doctor on Weds, she said our MWs do listen for the HB, so fingers crossed my MW will at least give it a try!

My 20w scan isn't until the 16th of September - so long to wait until then and to see if my original sonographer (sp?!) was right about the sex at only 13+2.

I'm 16+5 today.

wispaxmas · 26/08/2016 09:12

nasche, I do know someone who refused an induction at 2 weeks over and got a section instead. NICE guidelines say that any woman who wants a section even after being told of the risks and recovery should be given one and if the obstetrician isn't willing to give one that they should refer to one who will.

divadee · 26/08/2016 09:13

I want remember who was looking for black work trousers but Peacocks have some maternity ones online. A friend recommended peacocks for basics such as t shirts etc.... And the prices are really cheap compared to some. Hope that helps!

divadee · 26/08/2016 09:17

Sorry can't not want

LondonGirl83 · 26/08/2016 09:44

wispa my trust specifically sent out a letter saying they don't follow NICE guidelines concerning elective c-sections!

wispaxmas · 26/08/2016 09:57

It might be seen differently in terms of induction post dates and elective section as a woman may have very valid concerns regarding induction, especially if she has a low bishop score. An induction gets increasingly likely to fail the lower the bishop score and I would doubt a consultant would balk at allowing a section if the likelihood is that the induction will fail and end up an emergency section anyway. The person I know who had the section instead of induction was in east London- there are definitely trusts around that will consider it, but iirc she had to fight her corner and present research to support her stance. My trust say they don't give elective sections 'without a medical reason,' but there are so many medical reasons, including severe anxiety about birth. They would try to alleviate that with counselling, though.

wispaxmas · 26/08/2016 09:59

Scottish, I'm jealous- my scan is a week after yours and I'm almost a week ahead of you. I'm desperate to find out the sex.

kikisdelivery · 26/08/2016 10:05

Morning all! Smile my black work trouser recommendation is from Next, who do over-the-bump maternity trousers which seem pretty good so far. My bump isn't huge yet, but the over-bump band just makes them so much more comfy to keep on all day.

These are the ones I got: Next Black Bootcut Trousers

(The bootcut flare isn't as flarey as I'd like, but they'll do for the office!)

twocatsandatoddler · 26/08/2016 10:14

I'm definitely refusing induction, although I will aim for a natural birth this time if I go into labour before my elective section date. I haven't had my VBAC appointment yet, but the midwife I spoke to at my booking appointment said it was my right to refuse induction and ask for a section so it doesn't sound like my hospital will kick up a fuss. Strange that it differs so much around the country.

LondonGirl83 · 26/08/2016 10:18

Forgive me ignorance. I'm still reading my pregnancy book and haven't begun to learn anything about birth (much less taking care of an infant)! What are the downsides to induction? Is it just that you think you'll be too far over due for a vaginal birth by the time an induction is recommended or is there more too it?

twocatsandatoddler · 26/08/2016 10:48

London there are two methods of induction - one involved a pessary or gel on the cervix which releases hormones and tries to encourage the body to go into labour naturally. I didn't have this as my waters broke first and then contractions started naturally, but I think it's relatively non-invasive and if it does induce labour then labour can often go on as normal.

If that doesn't work, then they give you syntocinon via a drip - it's a synthetic version of oxytocin (I think, trying to remember from last time). It makes the uterus contract which progresses labour, but the contractions are often much more intense than with natural labour, so most women on the drip end up with an epidural to manage the pain. It also means your labour will be much more medicalised, as you'll be monitored more closely. There's also a chance it won't work and you end up needing a c-section anyway, although I can't remember know the percentage of women that affects so don't know how much of a risk it is.

I had the drip as my labour didn't progress, but because DS was at an awkward angle, he basically got stuck and therefore was squeezed and distressed by the contractions. I ended up with a c-section, but induction or no induction, I would have had one anyway as he was in such a weird position that I doubt he'd have ever come out vaginally. It was a one-off due to his position and I think it's highly unlikely to happen again, so I'm not blaming the induction for me needing a section. The reason I'm refusing is because it wasn't a pleasant experience being induced because DS was stuck and distressed and his heartbeat kept slowing, which meant on several occasions the midwife had to press the emergency button and a flood of doctors came running into the room, concerned about the baby until eventually his heart rate came back up, only for it to happen again every time they tried to turn the drip up. It was traumatic, and I don't want to bring back memories of that if I get induced so I'd rather have a repeat section.

ScottishSnowflake · 26/08/2016 10:55

Oh no wispa, how come you have to wait so long Sad

I've just been allowed to hear my baby's heartbeat Smile I was given some really good advice by a lady at work who said that the MW may let you record the heartbeat on your phone. Mine did and now I have a lovely little recoding to listen back too. Hopefully you may be able to do the same at yours!!

Dreamingoutloud7 · 26/08/2016 12:06

scottish that's a brilliant idea to record on your phone, especially as dh won't be at mw appointments.

ScottishSnowflake · 26/08/2016 12:24

Hi dreaming. My DH wasn't there either and he was disappointed that he wouldn't be able to hear little one. He's so pleased about the recording - not quite as good as being in the room, but almost Smile

kikisdelivery · 26/08/2016 13:37

Urggghhhhhh!!! Suddenly feeling morning-sickness type sickness again today, from mid-morning. Dammit! I can't win, I was worried about lack of symptoms in the second trimester but now feel pants again!

topmammy · 26/08/2016 14:08

Thank you for the black work trouser recommendations, will check them out. Smile

I was induced after my waters went with a pessary as my contractions weren't really happening. Only needed the one pessary luckily. The drip is much stronger and brings contractions on quicker I have been told, which is often more painful like twocats said. I hope to avoid the drip if at all possible this time. I really hope I go into spontaneous labour.

LondonGirl83 · 26/08/2016 14:25

twocats that does sound distressing. So sorry you had to go through that. In your position, I would also go for a c-section.

Between being told at my scan on Monday that my placenta is a bit low and the history of large babies on my husband's side I think its about a 50% chance I'll end up with a c-section anyhow, which if fine by me.

From what I've been told, a planned c-section really isn't too bad. Emergency sections seem to be more difficult to recover from, which is understandable as the consultants are rushing as its a potentially life threatening event.

topmammy · 26/08/2016 14:56

People I know who've had planned sections have said they are lovely and calm. Though, a couple of people I know have had the disappointment of turning up on the day, waiting around for ages and being told to come back the next day as they've had a lot of EMCS so couldn't fit them in, but how common that is I don't know. There's usually always some waiting around however you have your baby anyway - apart from that woman (who doesn't live too far from me) who had her baby in the entrance of the hospital while her husband was parking the car Grin!

Readyfortwo · 26/08/2016 15:17

Thanks to this chat I've spent the day mulling over how I feel about induction etc & have come to the following conclusion:

  1. I would love to have a spontaneous natural birth, preferably completed within 12hrs of first contractions.
  1. If I was sure that my labour was going to pan out exactly the same as last time (horribly long slow induction, starting with pessary finishing with drip nearly 48hrs later) then I would march straight in & request the drip & an epidural and get the whole thing over & done with asap.
  1. I can't guarantee either of the above, and everything other than option 1 is sub-optimal anyway so will prob just go with the flow again & deal with things as they happen. (Would be sorely tempted to decline a pessary induction & go straight for the hard stuff tho!)
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GinIsIn · 26/08/2016 16:06

About to brave my first trip to mothercare..... Wish me luck!!! Smile

wispaxmas · 26/08/2016 17:31

Scottish, my trust call it the 20-22 weeks scan and mine just happens to be closer to 22 weeks, that's all. It's fine, really, I'm just extremely impatient!

As far as inductions go, they tend to only work well if the baby is already in a favourable position, meaning head pressing against the cervix, cervix already having thinned out a fair amount, and if you're showing signs of general readiness, which is what the bishops score assesses. I can't remember the stats on it, but I think it was covered a bit in the book Expecting Better. I really need to reread that thing!

twocats, that sounds like exactly the type of situation a lot of women want to avoid when they say they don't want an induction, sorry you had it, though. FX for your spontaneous vbac this time!

I'm trying not to jump to making any decisions until I speak with the consultant next month, but I'm currently leaning towards a planned section.

SpinALittleFaster · 26/08/2016 20:58

My planned section was awful. I have low blood pressure and the spinal dropped it so far that I was totally out of it and couldn't even look at my baby. The second part was painful and I struggled to breathe through it.

I don't know which I'd rather have this time. They won't induce after a section though which relaxes me a bit about vbac.

CinderellaFant · 26/08/2016 21:29

I had an induction with my son... I went into hospital on the Thursday and got the gel, I started contracting within hours and water broke that day. To cut a long story short by lunchtime on Saturday I still hadn't got passed 3cm and DS was distressed so I had to have an emergency c section under general anaesthetic. With DD I was adamant I wasn't going through that again and had a planned c section, which was amazing. I'm having a planned section this time too!

topmammy · 26/08/2016 22:26

Gosh Cinderella they left you quite a while then. Don't blame you not wanting to go through that scenario again. At my trust they have a 24 hour limit to aim to get baby out by after waters have gone. I actually took 26 hours and doctors were coming in soon after birth taking DD's temperature checking for any sign of infection.

twocatsandatoddler · 27/08/2016 07:28

spin my blood pressure dropped to 80/40 during my section (so DH tells me) and I was also really out of it so remember mumbling DS's name when told he was a boy and then not much is clear after that until I recovered in the room afterward. I didn't pass out but I certainly wasn't with it - could have been the diamorphine though!

That's why I'd rather have a VBAC than a planned section, but I think a planned section and the wooziness would be preferable to reliving my induction experience.

All in all my labour definitely wasn't the natural water birth I was expecting and I really struggled to come to terms with that afterwards. This time I am going in with an open mind and prepared for the unexpected which mean I'll hopefully be in a better mental state to cope with change!

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