December - yet another final thread!

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The last one was getting too long again. There's just no stopping us!

Thank you Eli! Knew I could rely on you for chocolate cake (yum!) and sympathy

castles- my cow story was aimed to cheer you up but I admit it was weak! Can't think of any funny anecdotes really...unless you cound DH getting paint stuck to his contact lense on the weekend and getting some sort of pink eye. I am cruel. Anyway I hope you feel better- have a cup of tea and a biscuit . I just have

Judemum, I missed the cow story. Too self-obsessed to read other people's messages properly now . I can think of a few people to send oxfam cows to for Xmas. Good idea! Oh and talking of chocolate, you can get chocolate advent calendars in supermarkets/M&S. I think I got last year's ones in Waitrose - better quality chocolate usually!

See, there you go again, I mis-read "non-chocolate" for "chocolate" !!!! I don't know, that is a bit of a conumdrum isn't it? Can you get them in a card shop? Clintons?

I think I better go and have a lie down ...

I second the sudden clinginess. They know something is going to happen... My DD is very clingy and has suddenly started getting sad when i drop her at nursery...Also, tell me about the getting up EARLY!!! I will be back on full time from Friday! I am constantly getting banged in the cervix now!

I have been flying around London today! Doing all the touristy things for the umteenth time with friend!

judemum - I decided this year it would be cheaper to just get a wooden calender we could re-use each year with drawers.

It was only £12 which I thought was a really good price!

www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/detailfash.php?type=FASH&code=A6849&branch=IT&category=KCD62

Means that I can put a little something in for all the family and I get to control what it is and gear it to the right age.

wierd- excellent recommendation- think am going to get it. absolutely love it.

calm- what does cervix being banged mean???????????? mine is too and don;t know if it is normal at this stage or means baby is coming early????

Castles...something to cheer you up? My MIL. I don't normally talk about her mad ways because her heart's in the right place (and my DP also comes on MN sometimes) but yesterday she excelled herself. She's always bringing me clothes and baby clothes from the local secondhand shop. Which isn't a problem, it's a kind thought, but some things are really inappropriate(huge tent-like 'maternity' dresses that dont fit coz I have a bump)...and we can't say no--we try, but it's impossible. Last night she brought some old frilly pyjama tops for BFing. She also brought me a 'BFing bra', not made for BFing of course,but a frontloader(won't they just both fall out?),completely the wrong size and one of her old ones-she's 77 and half my size!

Then she advised using a bag of sand on my bump after the birth...to help it go down!

Anna - LOL there was me thinkning I had a problem mother-in-law. Then again as you say yours has her heart in the right place, bag of sand ROFL....my MIL's just more devious and sly than good willed!

DD has been a mare all day. DH had her this monringas it;s his week off. and she seemed fine until they got in to a spat about her opening the frint door before he was ready to leave the house, and ever since then you can't say two words to her without her showing off or disolving in to tears. Bought her some glitter and chalks to make firewaork pictures and that went pear shaped when she could'nt wait for me to change which colour she was using. So as well as decorating some lovely pictures, my dining room floor is rather festive

MW has confirmed bump has dropped but is still head down - phew! She is coming round on Saturday monring to talk to me and DH about a homebirth. DH on the other hand is packing my hopsital bag by stealth (except I have realised) - secretly hoping I go in I guess, or trying to make sure he's prepared as he can be. You know men, they like to feel in control, so I let him get on with it!

Hello,

hope all's well! my internet connection is very dodgy at the moment. I think it's all the rain! i'm edging ever closer to Wednesday and am excited and terified at the same time to see whether I am going to be induced or not. i could do with another week to be honest, just to get organised.

I need to buy a sling too, i ill watch with interest.

Anna , I took magnesim and Vit b6 when I was breast feeding dd and they really helped to sort out my blues. I didn't get pnd until dd was about 15 months, luckily it was only mild.

Thank you for cheering me up. Anna, your MIL bra story reminds me of a mad friend of mine (20s) asking a friend's mother (70s) if she had a black wonderbra she could borrow one evening! Capital advice about bag of sand on bump

Eli, missed your post about your DD getting upset at nursery earlier. She sound's suspiciously like mine at the moment. Maybe they are as anxious as we are? Yes, my hardest bit about having no.2 was being away from no.1. The ole 'mones make it worse than it is and really they are ok No advice re rising bp though. Sound's like you have been suffering with it being lower this time?

Wow, good luck on Wednesday Lucy! Do you think you will be induced there and then and with babe in arms later in the day/night?

DH told me tonight I need to see the doctor tomorrow about my anxiety/depression. I managed to avoid ADs last time (although prescribed) and am terrified of having to succumb. I haven't even had the baby yet! I keep hoping that this is the bad bit and I won't suffer at all post-partum.

Anna, lol! I have no ILs, love hearing about other peoples'...

Its interesting to hear how unsettled all the LOs are at the moment...they must be picking up on our feelings, and impending changes. Thanks for the reassurance Castles, it really does help to hear from BTDT Mums. Re ADs....dh was on them about ten years ago, a few years after his brother died. The thought of them was much scarier than the reality, though he tried a couple of different sorts before finding one that suited him and actually made him feel more like him, IYSIM...then, they really helped: he dealt with his feelings too, but they were like a plaster cast that held his broken limb while the healing happened. I hope you won't need them at all - that this time you have a totally different experience; but worst case scenario, ADs needn't be so bad. Sounds like you have a supportive dh, which is good

Lucy, am getting excited for you too - if we don't hear from you on Wednesday, we'll all be wondering if it your internet connection or if yo'uve been kept in! My bp also higher, but mostly the top number - odd readings like 135/67 all the time. Seeing OB tomorrow, anyway.

I'm up again at 1am, after trying to sleep for 2 hours (dd coughing, me itching like crazy)...hope the rest of you are fast asleep...

Lol, at your mil anna. You should write all of this down for posterity!

judemum, the cow story is brilliant. Maybe we should give my brother a donkey?

Went in today and I have gained almost 4 pounds in 2 weeks! eeek!!! I am now at what I hoped would be my ending weight with 4 weeks to go

As far as unsettled during the day, I am playing lots and lots of car games with ds. Last night I finally had to just say, Mommy needs a rest. I just couldn't do it anymore right then. But, I'm trying to acquiesce when he asks as I know our private time together is coming to an end.

As far as slings, I have a Maya wrap, a friend is (supposedly) shipping back my Over the Shoulder Baby Holder, I have a Baby Bjorn too. All from last time. This time I also purchased a Storchenwiege baby sling. Can't pronounce it and have yet to practice with it. It looks a bit intimidating.

Anyone else doing a maternity photo shoot? Besides magnolia, of course I finally found a photographer yesterday and she is working me in on Thursday. We're doing some with ds and some alone.

Morning all. I feel pants. 3rd night of no sleep as i have a cough and its made my asthma worse. even succumbed to cough medicine which i've been avoiding because of Pip (bump). Off to Drs in a bit.

Hope you're all ok

so sorry, tinshoes. I'm not even ill and here I am posting at 4 in the morning. This insomnia is the pits.

For all those who are feeling low at the moment, AND peaks apparently at 32 weeks so we have all just been over the peak of the worst of it!

Could explain a lot...

Is anyone else having tense moments with their dh? Mine seems to be so stressed at the idea of another baby that it's hard for us to relate anymore It just makes me so sad, b/c I'm so excited about this baby and love him to bits already and all dh can see is the extra bother of a second child.

Tin (and Jabber and everyone else with insomnia)- I feel bad for you- I had a really bad patch of sleeping a few weeks ago and if its night after night you really get a bit desperate. Just try and take things as slow as you can during the day and know that at some point soon, you'll be so bloody knackered that you'll have one long uninterrupted night's sleep and feel a whole lot better. And itsn't nighttime TV wierd??!! I watched a documentary on the lives of Princes William and Harry at 4.30am this morning ....nuff said!

Jabber- yes I have had some difficult times with DH recently, but I had a big "discussion" with him two weekends ago, on my mums advice and he has been brilliant ever since. Sometimes I think they just don't understand the huge physical and emotional strain pregnancy brings (and frankly how could they?) and they just think you're being moody/snappy/demanding. I felt like he wasn't at all interested in me or the baby, but in fact he felt that I was being moody and distant, so it was this self-perpertuating cycle. Anyway, thats enough of my marital ramblings. Can someone answer my head bouncing on the cervix question PLEASE!!! I am not seeing the m/w until friday and haven';t seen one for a long time and its worrying me.....

Thanks, JM. He just goes on and on about how tired his is and how bad he feels. He is 58 but has always looked and acted 10 years younger. I want to say, Hey, I'm tired too!!!! but then, I don't want to get into the whole discussion of how it was my idea to have another baby, etc. Which it was, and which I don't regret at all, even when i'm tired, cranky and hurt everywhere.

Sorry about missing the cervix question. do you get really sharp twinges down there? Kind of sudden and then it goes away? I didn't have it at all with ds, but then he was frank breech which I imagine explains it. I have gotten them from time to time with this one, more so lately.

That's interesting WB about AND. Wonder why I am feeling so bad since my "peak"? Probably anxiety/DS problems/hormones?!!

Jabber, my DH is opposite. Can't wait to meet the new baby and already talking about no.6. Ha ha ha!!

Poor insomniacs I hope you get some sleep soon. Eli, how are you feeling? Did you get back to sleep? I'm getting about 7 hours at the mo and it is truly wonderful. Also, highly recommend Spatone which is giving me loads more energy. Much better than that effing ferrous sulphate IMO. Slightly concerned about swelling fingers and possibly feet/ankles by end of day. Any advice? Jabber? Never had it before.

Jude, I have the cervix bouncing sometimes (LO also treats my bladder as a trampoline) and I've heard it's really normal at this stage especially if you have a head down baby. They are just trying to exercise and have run out of space.

Oh, yes, I'm definitely swelling at the end of the day with feet, ankles and hands. Hands are bad in the morning as well. Only real advice is try not to overdue and elevate your feet as much as possible. Keep drinking, too. Getting dehydrated won't help the swelling at all but will be bad in other ways.

Okay, going upstairs to try for sleep one more time.

Fingers crossed. Will check in with you all hopefully not for several hours

Re the insomnia my friend (who is a nurse) had it really bad last pg & ended up taking herbal sleeping tablets for a couple of nights (Nytol?). She was advised not to but did it anyway. It resolved it really quickly. Apparently it is the baby's metabolism which causes it ... preparation for them being up all night and sleeping all day

thank you- glad to know its not just me getting the sharp tinges and head bouncing sensation- i just don't remember getting this with DS1 -and so often. At least it sounds normal- was starting to think it meant that I was about to go into labour or something