The due in September crew head into the second trimester! :) (Thread 6)

[Treaclepie19]

Hi all! Stats sheet here :)

worry I would also just wait then for the sake of an extra week. Do you have an inkling what you are having?

kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/

These are two pieces of advice used by breastfeeding advisors. I'd be interested to read your evidence suggesting you can't drink and breastfeed. It's about being sensible and not going overboard.

It's my first so I'll probs be wrong but I do think I know what I'm having and my older sister who is forever pregnant agrees with me! I'm not bothered what I'm having but it will be nice to know, especially if I'm right.

I am getting really disheartened by the attitude 'it's only nine months..one year..two years'. Please don't make me out be be irresponsible for something that is not bad. Breastfeeding a baby for 14 months and having odd drink, coffee and spicy curry is far far far better than formula feeding when I don't want to or denying myself things I love just because some people don't like the idea of babies being exposed to them.

Well you have a 50% chance of being right so the odds are in your favour I've been looking at girls clothes and getting quite excited, though I was surprised at first I always pictured myself as having boys (and friends have said this too)!!

Perhaps we should just park the drinking / breast feeding / formula feeding chat. They are such personal and emotive issues people can be upset without anyone meaning to.

Whatabout I am not upset but don't like incorrect advice to be given when there are lots of potential first time breastfeeders on here. Sorry but if I can't feel free to openly challenge false statements on here then I'm probably in the wrong place!

Ok well I formula fed my son and may well do this one. That's ok too.

I don't think this discussion should be on here to be honest and it should be on pregnancy or chat.

In hindsight I probably didn't word that bit well - I am not trying to start any kind of formula v breast debate as like you say it is not worth it! But what I meant was it was not worth ME switching my method of feeding unnecessarily! Sorry if I sounded like I was attacking anyone!

worry delighted you are feeling calmer at the moment: long may it last! I wouldn't bother with the expense of a private scan for the sake of a week. Think of what else you could spend the money on..

Bit confused on the alcohol / orange juice thing. Can anyone explain?

Re: alcohol in pregnancy / BF. I think they are 2 separate things and individual choices. As someone who has never BF, I do suspect that having alcohol while BF a baby who is also on solids is very different to one who relies on you for all nutrition. Surely once they are weaned you feed less frequently, the baby takes less milk and their bodies can cope with the tiny amount of alcohol that they get. I'm sure provided you are sensible it logically must be OK. Obviously you are not going to get blind drunk in charge of a baby (one hopes). Like so many things in life it's about making a risk assessment based on what you and your baby need, and the evidence available, not what other people think.

News here: our new house has been surveyed, so hopefully we will be in a position to exchange in the next couple of months, and then move before I get big. Also now thinking about swapping one of our cars to one with space to get 3 seats in the back, probably a 7 seater. Anyone else doing this? What are you thinking of getting?

The only wrong way to feed a baby is to not feed them. We are very lucky to live in a country where there is an excellent, clean alternative to breastmilk widely available. As mental health is equally important as physical health, a woman's decision on how to feed her baby is her own and should be respected.

I say that as a prospective bf counsellor and extended breast feeder BTW.

bonzo lots of food and drink has tiny bits of ethanol in. There was an experiment where a woman looked at the alcohol content of her breast milk (sorry honestly can't remember how much she had to drink!) and the milk had less ethanol in than the orange juice thus making it more alcoholic, which obviously we wouldn't see it as being thus making the milk basically not alcoholic at all. Sorry this is waffle. I can try to dig the research out if you want though am way of clogging up the board.

Oh, and Asda maternity/nursing dresses are really thin and show every flabby lump. I got a nice pink tunic though, and a couple of pairs of lovely soft skinny jeans from h+m

I agree Dela and that's why I pointed out I was not attacking formula feeders

I think the discussion is fine on here. It's healthy to talk about what we're all planning and as a first time mom I'd like to get as much advice as possible!
I will be breastfeeding but I haven't researched drinking during breastfeeding.
I will abstain during pregnancy but I haven't got any further than that yet.

No one should judge how people choose to feed their baby. I don't drink anyway but I know a lot about FAS due to my studies so I wouldn't anyway.

I plan on breast feeding but it might be hard to juggle with university when I go back, I'm not against formula though we all had formula and turned out perfectly fine. Each to their own.

I'm with treacle on this. I am totally clueless as a first timer, and just starting to look at the information available so appreciate being given non judgemental (if we can keep it to that) info and / or links to more background.

In other news, we told the rest of our families yesterday our news. General consensus is good, altho the sister I'm closest to was less than enthusiastic about the whole thing and reacted like a petulant teenager (she's 41) families!

I'm also wearing my new maternity trousers to work today and revelling in the fact that my waistband didn't cut me in two. Slightly perturbed by the fact I'm not sure they'll fit in another 3 months...

Worry fair enough but who was judging feeding choices? I wasn't as I have explained three times

I didn't say you was but you saying you breast feeding whilst eating curry drinking coffee etc is better than using formula comes across judgemental.

If you read my post it says rather than using formula if I don't want to. As in why swap methods if I don't need to. I wouldn't expect a formula feeder to breastfeed if they didn't want to and I wanted to breastfeed and because I don't feel those things harmed my baby, it wasn't necessary for me to switch.

I have already said I could have worded it more clearly

Exactly shin. It's about not being / feeling forced into decisions based on misinformation.

worry she's referring to the fact that she didn't want to use formula, and would bf and could still have the odd coffee etc. I don't read that as a judgement, she's expressing the fact that that's what she wants.

My biggest piece of advice when it comes to feeding is prepare to accept anything goes. I was set on breastfeeding. My son lost a huge amount of weight and we were put back in hospital. I do not make sufficient breast milk to sustain a small person. In hospital I was treated very badly and I ended up with post natal depression. I mix fed against the breast feeding midwifes express wishes ( she forcefully took the formula the paediatrician had told me to give and called me fat. Nice) until six weeks when my son started displaying allergies and I was told to stop. He then went on to dairy and soya free formula. I felt like a failure and this was reinforced by several professionals. There is a lot of support out there and a lot of judgement. This time I will be hand expressing from late pregnancy and freezing it and getting as much colostrum in as possible. After that anything goes.