The due in September crew head into the second trimester! :) (Thread 6)

[Treaclepie19]

Hi all! Stats sheet here :)

Guava I'm not taking any and didn't in my first trimester they made me vomit my consultant my consultant said I should be fine it's just a guideline and people had perfectly healthy babies before folic acid supplements and vit D

Guavasforbreakfast do you get healthy start tablets? The midwife gave me huge job lot of them at my last appointment for the rest of pregnancy and for breastfeeding so guess it's still important in their opinion but sure it's more vital before conception and in first trimester? I had to stop taking the fancy pregnancy multivitamin I bought as I couldn't swallow it without retching then got diarrhoea after taking it but I am fine on the freebies!

Just checked. NHS says vit d every day during pregnancy and when breastfeeding and folic acid in first trimester. But no harm in taking folic acid longer term.

As Worry said if your diet is good and you get enough sunlight you're probably fine. My diet hasn't been great so am taking every precaution!

Hey everyone! Hope you're all well. It's been a crazy, busy week at school. Next scan is 5th May.

Brilliant DoctorDOnna...snap too!!!!!!!!

Anyone else having sharp pains in their lower left abdomen? Am assuming it's ligament pain but it's blimmin' annoying!

A GP was astounded when i said about Vit D - absolutely not! I mentioned that it was on NHS recommendation list and tbf he went off and researched it but still said dont bother as no proven benefit???? Suppose each dr has their own opinion.....

Lastnight I had that all week it was so annoying and painful! It's finally gone now though (hope I haven't jinxed it)

I dropped off too so just getting back on! Hope everyone has some nice plans for the weekend! We're off to dinner and the theatre tonight

That sounds lovely snowflake :) Enjoy!
We're going out for breakfast and then to get our mothers day presents. I may even treat myself to some maternity jeans.
(And krispy kreme if I can persuade dh)

lastnight I've had that too!

snowflake good luck with your interview!

It feels like I've got a stitch! I got up from my desk yesterday and it was really sore, looked a bit like quasimodo/igor as I wandered around.

Might have a cheeky glass of fizz with lunch today...will be going out with my mum and godmother and breaking the news. Seems reasonable, no? I've been so well behaved and teetotal otherwise. Just don't tell DH...he is the food & drink police at the moment!

Last night I hate to be a killjoy but I watched that program everyone's been talking about "when pregant women drink" on itvplayer this week and after watching it plan not to touch a single drop until after baby arrives. It was really very shocking. Anyone who hasn't seen it I strongly recommend it. Upsetting but I think important.

I'm pretty blase generally but still swerve alcohol till well into 2nd trimester, and then just a stingy half glass of wine rarely. it's such a short time to abstain for, is it really so important to you to have alcohol?

Lastnight it's really tricky with the booze thing as there's no one line of advice. ITV thing would say no but, as I said previously, I'm a little wary of following the advice of an ITV programme over NHS, NICE etc. All guidelines seem to say that no risk would be no alcohol (obvious I guess) - at the moment, I'm thinking I will limit myself to a mouthful of champagne at a wedding in April and at my 30th in April - but not more. Xxx

And monkey Re vitamin D, my lovely doc was also very dismissive of it too! Seemed to think it was a bit laughable!
BUT then went to midwife 2 weeks later and she strongly recommended it! Grrr! Been taking it since! Xxx

It's by no means 'important' (makes me sound like a raging alcoholic... ) but thought it might be a nice opportunity to celebrate, that's all.

As I said - haven't touched a single drop since the beginning of the year so figured that a small glass of champagne as a one off would be within the whole 'no more than one unit once or twice a week' thing. Wasn't aware of that programme cornberry - we don't watch much tv. Might check it out though.

That was my thinking sauv but it seems I'm out of date!

I only watched it because there was plenty of talk on the pregnancy boards and it's very interesting. Due to morning sickness I haven't had a drink since half a glass of champagne on NYE, but thought once I was better and into second trimester the occasional glass was acceptable. Apparently not. They show you sonograms of fetuses in the womb at around 18 weekend and compare one whose mum has drunk during pregancy but not recently - and not a lot at all - and one who's abstained, and you can see how the alcohol affects the baby's behaviour, even in the womb. Terrifying. Apparently the UK is one of the only countries where guidelines say a couple of units a week are acceptable. They also explain that alcohol in pregnancy is more detrimental than heroin!

Sorry but I have never read any evidence on one glass of wine causing damage to a foetus. A glass a day maybe. Not one every few weeks or even every week. Nine months isn't that long but it is if you're avoiding a huge list of things unnecessarily. There's plenty of evidence that one mouthful of rare steak can cause damage to a foetus (and yet many women eat things like that and just call it 'cheeky') but no evidence one glass of wine can unless the programme uncovered new evidence (and reading up on the reviews of it it didn't) . Most things we do in pregnancy involve risk. Many are avoidable. But whether you choose to completely avoid something due to no proven risk is a personal decision. I know most people will probably disagree with me but honestly there's plenty more things more dangerous than one glass of wine that women choose to do and don't get criticised over.

Cornberry that's interesting it says it affects baby's behaviour in the womb. But surely so do sugary foods and drink (which in themselves can be dangerous as can help lead to gestational diabetes if you're at risk anyway). Anyway I'm happy to be proven wrong as I have read up a lot in this and the food risks though there's always new evidence. I find it really interesting what is deemed risky and what isn't.

sauv did you see the programme? It's not the advice of ITV, it's that of leading specalists from all over the world! Worth noting that the NHS change guidelines for things often as scientific discoveries progress. It may be that it's not a problem to have a small glass occasionally but it just seems safest to err on the side of caution. :)

www.theguardian.com/society/2007/may/29/health.medicineandhealth

I found this article really in my last pregnancy

shinjuku I would have said the same but if you watch it you can't fail to be struck. Also while sugar is bad, alcohol is a poison. I won't eat any Camembert for example just to be safe and it does seem to make sense to not also eliminate what is effectively a drug if you're avoiding cheese!

That article is 8 years old. It contains info on NHS guidelines which have since changed, such as caffeine allowance. I'm not saying you have to be teetotal, I'm just saying that a) drinking shouldn't be so important to risk it and b) worth watching that programme if only for the sake of information as it contains info obtained with technology not developed in 2007. I think there is a lot of scaremongering, and I'd love a piece of blue cheese, but it just seems safer to avoid if possible, and alcohol is extremely unnecessary.