Due in Jan 2007 part 4: Sex?! Don't make me laugh! (When I laugh my back hurts MORE, and I wet myself)

[2Happy]

Whaddya think?!

OMG...I feel like shit.

Just came on this afternoon.
Extreme tiredness, feel like I'm going to be sick at any minute, ache all over, and horrible gassy/windy belly ache.

can someone please come and feed my kids...the thought of cooking makes me want to weep.

whens dh home LTH? I can send some roast chicken your way but think you live far away from me (I'm in Kent)

Sounds like cold/flu thing hope you get to have a nice bath and realx a bit tonight take care xx

dh not home until about 9pm.

have been a very slack mum and given them sandwiches for dinner....

Just need to bath them now.

Would a bucket of cold water thrown over them be considered cruel, do you think??

Put the central heating on high, stick em in the bathroom with water pistols, shut the door and pretend it's summer! On second thoughts, that may not be the best way to calm them down ready to go to sleep...

Cyber waves of sympathy to everyone out there feeling so tired ('specially those who already have a little one or two). I feel chastened that all I have to look after is two barmy Bengal cats so I'll stop grizzling about lack of sleep.

BTW. Anyone had problems on public transport? I was feeling tetchy and hot and on the verge of confronting a bunch of people on the London tube the other day (mainly young men) for not being gents and offering a seat but chickened out. I can see it coming though...

Elliepmonstermummy thank you so much for the OK tip. I'm planning to use washables if I can enagage my brain enough to choose a brand but thought disposables would be great to start with. To my surprise the Boots I tried (Brent Cross) were puzzled but didn't put up a fight. I do love a bargain! First baby purchase out the way. I feel so behind with it all . Hey ho, tomorrow is another day. Off to Granny's in Gloucestershire this weekend so at leats I'll get to pick her brain.

Have a good weekend all.

2happy....are you mad???

Water pistols are banned from my house anyway....and concidering I have 3 boys that quite an extreme ban.

Hoonestly, I'm not joking either. The house of LTH os a water pistol free zone.

Just putting ds3 to bed now, and I'll be retiring to the sofa.

Ah well, my second suggestion was going to be a sedative in their milk

Love2dance: I have to travel on the tube each day and although most of the time I do get offered a seat there are some times when people just look straight through me. I had one old fart the other day barge in front of me to get the only remaining seat. At the next stop a seat down the end of the row became available and as I walked past him I gave him the filthiest glare I could conjur up, he then followed me and leaned in with his 60 fag a day breath to tell me that he didn't realise I was pregnant. Luckily for him I had had a pretty decent day up until then otherwise I would have told him that he was a rude old sh*t anyway .

And ditto on the not sleeping well thing, I find that if I lie on one side and raise the oppostie knee and shove a pillow under the bump and knee then I feel a lot better.

Starting to waddle a lot now too, and dh calling me his football!

Have a good weekend everyone.

yes, it's funny isn't it? when you're walking down the street, everyone seems to think your bump is public property, they pat it, remark upon it, and lavish it with attention...as soon as you get on the Tube, you're invisible.

i gave up my seat for another, more pregnant, woman on the bus the other day, we then had a very loud conversation with each other about how rude people are. old people are the worst. i gave up my seat for an old lady a while ago, and she looked at me like i was a piece of sh*t and said, "it must be difficult being pregnant so young and (looking at my then-naked ring finger) unmarried". i could've punched her!!

on a more positive note, i got my pram yesterday...it's a three-way travel system, £300 from mothercare and been used about twice by my friend. her LO's 1 now, so too big for the car seat, and she said i might as well have it!! for free!! (well, i had to have a new tyre on it, but that was only £20, which for a practically brand new buggy i thought was a bargain!)

on a totally different note, has anyone thought about cord banking? i read an article about it on the BBC website, which said that private banking was expensive and a waste of staff's time, but altruistic banking was good. just wondering if anyone knew anything about it....

wow, i ramble don't i? this was only going to be a quickie...i've got to take my parents to kettering......what a treat.

oh, i meant to say, for those of you that travel on the tube regularly, you can apparently get badges which say that you're pregnant, so even if it's not obvious (and i know i have quite a hideable bump still) then people still know. you can get them from either the dept. of transport or london transport, i can't remember which one. i'll try and do a search later when i've got more time. hth.

Hi all. Totally agree on the tube thing!! Luckily I don't have to go on it everyday but when I do it always seems to be in rush hour and I get so hot and sweaty and pissed off with all the people trying their best to ignore me so they don't feel bad about not offering me their seat! I've found that middle-aged business men types are the worst. I think it's just because a lot of them really do consider themselves the centre of the universe and just don't ever think about other people

Just wondering if any of you other London mums have had or are having your babies in UCH/EGA? I'm starting the NHS anti-natal classes later this month so hopefully I'll get to find out more about the hospital then, but I'd love to hear anyone else's experiences!

jessddibs - thanks for the advise on the hair colouring thing. Even if things are getting completely out of control from the sholders down, at least I can try and make the top bit look decent!!

smileyjimjams - I have the evil sock marks too and am also really missing the booze!!

right, if you want a "baby on board" badge so people know that you want them to give up their seat for you, phone 0845 330 9880.

or, go to here
and type "pregnant women" into the search box.

Well, afternoon all! So far I have been quite lucky with the public transport, although I do tend to try my hardest to make my bump stand out as much as possible and huff and puff! and it's worked everytime.!

Very crap day today. I actually fainted in starbucks on my way to work! I was stood in the queue for my latte and suddenly had a massive head rush, blurred vision and awful nausia, I grabbed the man next to me in the queue and said "i am gonna faint" then did!! Luckily for me he had hold of me and dragged me backwards to a chair where after a few mins felt better again although very 'cold' sweaty and pale. At least I didn't hit the deck and do myself damage. But for the rest of the day I have had very heavy legs and feel mega lethargic. I looked online for advice and it just says that it is quite common and to make sure you eat, drink etc enough and don't over do it!?! Anyone else experienced this???? I am so worried that it may happen again....Also my legs and feet are swelling up, aaahhhh! But dh brought me some Ugg's today and they feel like heaven on my feet... He is trying hard to please me at the mo....

Hope all is ok with everyone else, glad the scan went ok Trinity.x. How'd the virgin party go laughalot?? And I had my night at the cinema with the girls.....Devil wears Prada is sooo predictable and not even that funny, plus I had VERY irritable legs! and we had to sit in the bloody front row!! not the best evening out..

Hello, i'm on the December thread but just wanted to say that I love your title!

Hi all - please stop posting so much (only joking ). I've been meaning to post but it always seems that by the time I've read up on everything it's time to go and cook a meal or take dd somewhere or just go to sleep!

Welcome to the newbies - hope everything is going well.

Had my growth scan yesterday to see if LO really is a big one! Appears he is just above average size; so much for the fundal height measurements. But it was nice to see him moving around yesterday and, a minor miracle, they called me in for my appointment 5 minutes early!

Urban - sounds like you got a bit of a bargain with your buggy. I have an M&P Pliko which I don't like but unfortunately can't think of a justifiable reason to get a new one for this baby!

Glad I don't have to contend with public transport, strangely one of the few places I'm comfortable at the moment is in the car!

jess - this happened to me all the time when i was first PG, but i have very low blood pressure. when are you next seeing your mw? might be worth mentioning, especially if it's not "normal" for you.

hello all, to all those having a bad time on public transport I lukily do not have to battle the tube living in the pennines - just a few grumpy sheep and over fed ducks.

Hattie: did I read right that you have a pilko pramette this was the pram we were thinking about is it no good? - what does everyone else have any good tips a little lost with this one had to leave M&Ps as staff hacked off as I was merrily taking prams apart but then not getting the damn things back again lots of huffs and puffs.

Jess, I have been getting really light headed and almost fainting (although thankfully havnt actually yet and not in a public place-poor you!!) and when I mentioned it to the midwife she said what they say to me about anything I mention - "yes, Im afraid thats quite normal in preg, just try to take it easy" - rediculous when I quite clearly have a 14month old!! Grrrr!!!

loosh - mines not the pramette, just the normal pliko pushchair. It's ok - just a bit flimsy and wobbly once you get out onto real pavements rather than the nice smooth floor of the M&P shop! If choosing again I'd definitely go for a single handled one so you can puch with one hand and therefore hold an umbrella or phone or whatever in the other hand. Have also got a maclaren volo which I keep in the car. V lightweight but only suitable for 6 months plus.

Pram tips: practice putting it up, taking it down one handed, for the times lo won't be put down. Take it out to your car and check that it'll fit in your boot while leaving a bit of space for groceries. Consider if you need pneumatic tyres (make for a more comfortable tyres, but if you live in the sticks they're prone to punctures esp when they're cutting the hedges) or plastic wheels. Will it lie flat for a newborn. Do you want it forward or rear facing (if the baby faces you, you can interact with it/check if it's FINALLY fallen asleep; if baby faces forwards, when older it'll have more to look at). Has it got a nice sized, accessible basket underneath? Will you be able to handle it immediately post-natally (esp if you have a c-section) - things weigh a lot more when you're knackered.
We bought a mothercare travel system, was v useful when ds was youg as I used to take him for 5.5 mile walks most days, and it was v robust. But it's also v heavy and big, so hopeless for trips to shops, which we got a maclaren stroller for - so that's another consideration: cost. There's no point chelling out £hundreds if you going to end up buying a stroller after a couple of months anyway.
Now if someone can furnish me with a similar tip-list for double buggies?

Doh "make for a more comfortable tyres" supposed to be a more comfortable ride. Preview, preview, preview!

Is anyone else absolutely petrified of laubour? This is my first bub and I can't even think about it because it frightens me so much. Waters breaking, contractions, the giant needles, the pain, tearing. oooohhhh it goes on . I'm utterly petrified. My ante-natal classes don't start until the end of November, I'm hoping they will help me out a bit but I'm also worried it will make me worse. Boring but thought here was the best place to say what I feel. Any advice?!!!

Thanks for the advice girls. I had a mega migraine late last night so maybe that had something to do with the fainting?!? Feel like I have a bit of a cold coming to, luckily dd has her stagecoach club this morning then a party which dh has promised to take her to and from this afternoon (he had better get back from golf in time..) So am hopefuly planning to lay on the sofa and read magazines and relax...mmmm...will let you all know if it actually happened!!

Daisypops - I am worried about the birth, who isn't???! You wouldn't be human if you didn't have concerns. The only advice I can offer is try not to worry until you get to it. Dh's cousin was pertrified but popped her ds out within two hours of the first contraction!! So she worried for no reason really! And to be honest, when actually in labour you really don't care about needles, vomit, blood, sweat and gore you just want that baby out no matter what it takes!!! And you have a little bubba to take your mind off what just happened..x.

Aaah daisy you will be fine im not going to fib and tell you its easy because I personally found it very hard hence why its called labour, you might find it all happens very quickly or it could be very drawn out but you will do it. My waters never broke and my initial pain was like period pains I wouldnt have known it was labour if I hadnt had a show a few hours later, I was in labour 24 hours and it was a hard labour that ended up with a crash team of doctors delivering him by vontouse however I am such a wimp and dont cope very well with pain but I did it and you will be able to as well. With regards to classes they are good to go to however I did feel very pressured into having a natural birth the midwives are very keen on this idea but my theory is you dont get a medal for a natural deleivery so if you are in alot of pain ask for pain relief, I had gas and air, pethadine and a epidural and I still got the same outcome as any mum who had a natural deleivery except some stiches of course. I dont want to make you scared daisy I just want you to know you can do it and im sure there are plenty of mums who can give some nice birth experiences, I am still worried about my next birth and I do want to try a water birth this time so even though I know it was painfull im back for more and once baby is in your arms you will have forgotten that pain

I am sick and tireds of leaking when I sneeze