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October 2014 #9 - Into the home straight we go, 3rd trimester here we come!

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sazzlehopes · 07/07/2014 21:06

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Keep up the chitter chatter ladies!

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ohthegoats · 24/07/2014 11:53

Yeah I got told I'd be induced on my due date too - so they can manage my blood thinners basically. The consultant said I could refuse this if I wanted, so the plan is to do everything possible to get it out before due date. Obviously this probably won't work. But reflexology, acupuncture etc will be employed once we're at 37 weeks. Luckily there is a natural health place at the end of my road that does all those things.

If I have to be induced it will be epidural then demand for CS if it starts looking instrumental. Preference would obviously be to avoid all interventions at all.

puppythedog · 24/07/2014 12:00

Me I share your pain, I now work in a more specialist team and so my time is less overwhelmed than it was but the stuff i do is more complex. In my last job I was working 7am to 6 or 7 pm most days for 9-5 pay and I wasn't able to do all I needed and felt professionally at risk. It can be really rubbish. Check out the thrid link I posted. Says a lot about how good the NHS is that is not based on anecdotes but the impartial information out tere (as much as info can be impartial).
One thing I know is that good healthcare is delivered to most patients most of the time and becuase of the dedication of people's liike you and me. Same in Education if it wasn't for Goats and mrsthedog and all the others working extra nothing would happen.

Only 70 years ago people could not expect anything like state education/healthcare in the way it is today but expectations have moved, it's all also a political football and it's being badly fucked about with. Through all that we still do a good job.

fatpony · 24/07/2014 12:06

The NHS is fab but I've never had to use it in an emergency, luckily!

On slings - is it that we need the stretchy/cloth ones for when they are very tiny and then the more structured ones for when a bit bigger and heavier? I am inheriting a Baby Bjorn carrier from someone but sounds like it is for when they are a bit older.

I was looking at breast pumps the other day (as you do) and they all seem quite pricey. Again I've read that if you don't get the baby used to the bottle within the first month they have problems taking it later on? I'll be back at work at six months so would love to feed mysefl as much as possible but get him used to a bottle too.

ohthegoats · 24/07/2014 12:10

It's the extras that are the killer really puppy - for everybody. Everyone wants to do a good job, mostly nurses/carers/social workers/teachers etc love their jobs (why else would they do them!), so want to do them properly. Then it just gets taken advantage of.

In the last week of term I didn't go to the leavers prom - it was an evening do, from 7.30, and it had been assumed that I'd turn up to do a speech because I taught that class. No one ASKED, it was arranged by parents and they assumed I'd turn up. In the last week of term I was KNACKERED, there was no way I was going.. so I didn't. Ooh the complaining and slagging off I got was pretty impressive. That's the one time I've refused to do something in an evening in a year and a half, and now I'm the baddie. During the last term I've turned up on two Sundays for fetes, I'd turned up to three evening concerts and 2 evening play performances after 7.30, I'd been at governors (voluntarily) until 9pm twice, and at the PTA until 9pm on two other evenings during this last 7 weeks, but no one remembered those things. Rah.

ohthegoats · 24/07/2014 12:11

Just as a less political point - is anyone else feeling really weird about boobs feeling as if they are lying on your gut? I know it's a bump, I know it's weirdly high, but it feels as if I'm 90 with great pendulous sagging boobs flopping onto my stomach. Urgh.

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 12:18

Yikes - will there be a MW strike in October???

Off to get whooping cough jab today. Preparing for ouchy.

I have met some amazing NHS workers and have been genuinely touched by the good nature and good will they bring as well as quality service. But yes. As with any other service I have had some real problems with NHS including misdiagnosis and leaving things too late. But it is different when it's your health as opposed to your bank or supermarket who messes up! Also agree that creating poor working conditions and pay is not going to make it better. So I do respect and value all you in the NHS (and teachers for that matter).

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 12:20

My boobs just look horrible naked - all veiny and massive areola! And do sit on my bump!

But look good in a bra - my boobs diminished after my ds but now back to fullness - love it.

Happytimes31 · 24/07/2014 12:28

I have to say I have been thrilled by the care I have received from my GP and community midwife so far in my pregnancy, maybe I am just very lucky but the NHS is getting top marks from me at the moment and I am low risk so no medical need to do things like physio referrals quickly. Thank you Me23 and everyone else, very happy punter here. But I am somewhat surprised by how the care differs across the country and different trusts methods/processes for doing things.

clops2000 · 24/07/2014 13:18

Afternoon everyone, this heat is crazy! ice lollies are on tap and I'm staying inside and hardly getting any work done!

I work in the NHS and it seems everyone's experience is so varied according to which area you're in. I've had really good care so far as I'm in a city with a fab teaching hospital and my MW is lovely. I've worked in NHS for 10 years though and have seen so many changes and now cuts - it's just all such a waste of money and they're now dangerously messing with something that is so valuable to our country.

We're doing hypnobirthing - Katherine Graves method - which is absolutely brilliant. We've done 4 classes with an amazing teacher and its nice that the relaxation CDs are also in an english accent. It's changed my opinion of birth so much, I'm actually excited about the challenge and can't wait to try out everything we've learned. The best thing is that my OH has been fully involved in the process and knows what to do to support me when the time comes. The Katherine Graves book is great if you don't do a course - I felt I needed a course as I had the Mongan book and knew I wouldn't get around to practising/ OH wouldn't get around to reading it. I know people think it's a lot of money but we've tried really hard to spend very little on other things and this has been worth every penny. I'm hoping the the little one will appreciate a peaceful birth more than a state of the art changing table! If you're considering hypnobirthing I'd say do it, you'll be sooooo glad you did. They need to change the name though, seems to put a lot of people off! There's a hypnobirthing group on Facebook and you can usually get a good deal on classes if you contact your local teacher. Can you tell I like it.....?!!

On the subject of boobs, mine grew a bit at first but nothing since then, think they look smaller in contrast to my big tummy!

clops2000 · 24/07/2014 13:21

30 weeks today btw :) And...I started writing something for my dissertation this week!
Having my supervisor break it down into small chunks with me seems to have really done the trick, just like you all said it would. Thanks!

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 13:52

Ok no whoopig cough jab administered as I've got a cold. Rearranged so a few weeks (she said there wasn't a point by which I needed to have it by). Suppose I should have thought about the sore throat / cold thing before going to have it!

gunwalloe · 24/07/2014 13:55

Having a lovely relaxing week in Cornwall, it would be more relaxing if my sugar levels would stay low they are creeping up and im not seeing the diabetic midwife again until the 13th August

Me23 · 24/07/2014 14:14

fedup I had whooping cough jab and caught a cold on the same day! I didn't have a temperature so assumed it was ok. Feel rotten now, head feels achy arm is sooo sore not just your usual ache after an injection te nurse did warn me it would hurt but I didn't realise it would be this bad I can't move arm without pain or sleep on right side the injection site is raised as red and bunged up nose meant I hardly slept.

Yuk just want to hide away today luckily 3 yr old has nursery today and dd can entertain herself so am having lazy day.

mum2kiss · 24/07/2014 14:40

I had the whooping cough jab today. Wasn't painful but started to itch like crazy about an hour after! It's stopped itching now and I could happily take a nap except it school run and ballet lesson time!

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 15:07

Hmmm sorry to hear that me. Am thinking perhaps going for a Monday was a bad idea. I don't want a sore arm through work that week, I struggle as it is - perhaps we rearrange again for a Thursday. Nurse said that because I had a tetanus jab quite recently it will definately be painful for me. Not quite sure of the connection but there must be a link!

HopefulHamster · 24/07/2014 15:23

Just missed a phone call from my GP to say my 28-week results show I'm anaemic. She's now in with a patient so I can't get through and the receptionist was useless.

I've sent my husband out for iron supplements - presumably if it was super serious they'd have told me more on the phone right, so this should tide me over until I can get in touch?

Don't know whether to panic or not!

YellowWellies · 24/07/2014 15:30

I'm hating the horrible sweaty boobs on bump sensation too. Ick.

As for baby wearing - Baby Bjorns thrive on name alone. They are overpriced, really pretty uncomfortable for you to wear and actually they put baby in a position which isn't safe for developing hips (if your baby is at all at risk of hip dysplasia) so if you want to make sure your wee one isn't going to spend months in a full body cast - I'd really avoid like the plague. There's a reason they are given as hand-me-downs they have crap resale value. Sorry for bonfire pissing but Baby Bjorn carriers are one baby product that make me really cross. So if you have one and think baby wearing isn't for you - try another carrier from the sling library. Most of whom will simply not stock Baby Bjorns as they're that poorly regarded.

When it comes to where you wear them - it's a very personal choice. I found baby wearing indoors muuuuch more use than outdoors actually, as whilst hey we'd all like them to gurgle peacefully in the Moses basket whilst you get stuff done - newborns don't as a rule, get that particular memo and if its a choice of getting stuff done with a happy baby strapped to you, not get it done whilst holding a baby on the couch or do stuff and listen to your baby scream themselves redder and redder until they puke - option a) wins!!! I do think that's the biggest difference in expectations between before having a baby and the reality - you think you'll have much more control over teaching or disciplining them to get used to not being held than actually you do have in reality. Certainly when wee they are often very distressed when not physically on you. And no matter how long you try to let them get used to not being held some will just scream blue murder until they are. As a pal said to me 'they only have one argument and it's very compelling' Grin. So if you find that you aren't achieving some housefrau ideal of achieving lots of stuff or exercising and reclaiming your pre baby figure, whilst baby sleeps - don't feel bad. Read 'What Mothers do' for a really realistic insight into the first few months. Velco baby and stuck to the sofa is often the reality but it doesn't last forever. You kinda have to slow down your expectations and pace of life. God knows how I'm going to achieve it with crazy climbing toddler sidekick though!!!

I found going outdoors with a buggy was more practical for us personally than baby wearing as baby can nap in it leaving your hands free for a coveted hot cuppa, its easy to take your coat etc on and off without having to take them off and wake them, its somewhere to hang the change bag and shopping bags to save you carrying them and there's no risk of falling over on ice and landing on your baby.

But the sensation of going out and about with a wee baby strapped to your chest in a nice handy position for kissing their wee heads is AWESOME too. I can't wait for that actually!

As for the NHS chat Puppy I agree with everything you said. If you look at the performance metrics the NHS is kick ass even compared to some of the priciest private systems around the world. Discontent against the NHS is politically motivated and largely related to deliberate underfunding (despite lots of forewarning of the baby boom cohort approaching retirement and its most expensive healthcare years) to allow whole swathes to be privatised. I think one of the biggest problems isn't due to the public nature of the NHS but actually down to the 'arrogance' of some medics (especially GPs) - they're a bright bunch but many don't actually keep up to date on CPD issues once they get to a certain age / seniority and assume they know more than anyone else.

Sorry epic post!!!

HopefulHamster · 24/07/2014 15:49

re. babywearing, when my son was born it was summer and there weren't many baby groups on, so going out for me tended to mean a walk on my own. I'd do one in the pram every day and one in the sling, just to vary it up.

Slings/carriers etc were also really useful for things like car boot sales or going around the shops anywhere where a pram would've got in the way.

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 16:18

Don't panic hamster - it's not an issue really I don't think - just means you are tired doesn't it and will get out of breath more. It's not an emergency! Just start consuming more iron and get on spatone! They will prob give you a free prescription for iron but you can always get some today and start taking.

fedupofrainydays · 24/07/2014 16:20

And it's not serious as I was told I would get a letter of I was anemic. Surely they would ring if it was something to worry about

HopefulHamster · 24/07/2014 16:23

Cool, I just looked at Dr Google and some of them said about it affecting the baby and preterm delivery and stuff, which had me slightly anxious. But presumably they'd have told me sooner if it was that bad (results came in last week but I had to wait until today for a phone appt - which I've now missed!). And tbh I've been feeling fine. Tired but not really much more than normal.

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puppythedog · 24/07/2014 16:43

Sorry for taking the slightly open can of worms and shooting it with a shotgun.

On a different note, I am hoping for baby carrying so from an early age I can carry out and about on mountainous terrain.

binkybunny · 24/07/2014 16:50

Thanks Yellow for the warning on Baby Bjorn's, had briefly looked at them bought thought they were quite expensive. Also though not as expensive as the Ergo ones, which I know lots of people rave about but I couldn't quite believe how expensive they were!

Going to pick up a rocking chair tonight for the nursery and will be repainting this afternoon- v excited :)

Puppy think you're on the same wavelength as us, get them in the mountains young and hope they have a life long love of them!

HopefulHamster · 24/07/2014 16:52

Pharmacist just gave me tabs - is Spatone better then? Will look for the apple flavour!