Martians 2014 Thread 14: on intra-uterine discos and knocking stuff over with your bump.

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Fox the advice is baby in with you until 6 months, however realistically most parents start trying to implement some sort of bedtime routine prior to 6 months, and many put baby into their own room earlier too. I'm planing first 6-12 weeks with DD always where we are (upstairs or downstairs) then after that she will be put to bed upstairs in our room at 7pm(ish) to try and establish better sleep habits.

Ah yes. What to do when baby is here. I should prob read up on that. Antenatal starts for me tomorrow - looking forward to meeting some local MTBs.

On slings and things I like the sea of being able to be hands free when out and abou every now and again- but not the idea of never being able to put baby down and feeding on demand. But don't like the idea of waking baby up GF style and having to stick to a v rigid regime.

Anyone know what happens if you try and mix it up? Does baby go mad and spontaneously combust? My sister shrugged her shoulders and said both hers started sleeping through from six weeks. She actually thought there was something seriously wrong the first night her eldest slept through because she slept for 13 hours. Sleep is hereditary right?

Thinking same same on third stage - injection but ask for cord to stop pulsing first.

Evening all!! Long time no post. Glad everyone's doing ok. Welcome newbies.
I'll be having the injection. Although the 1st time the great oaf of a consultant pulled the cord away leaving the placenta behind so I needed surgical removal!! Second time everything was fine.
The sleeping thing, leaving the room is so they learn to self settle. Just while they go to sleep. So put them down. Leave them till they go to sleep then go back in.

Has everyone packed their hospital bag?? I'm starting to think about that now. And what I'm going to do with the boys when I start!!

Re the injection for placenta delivery - I had it both times before and it made that final stage nice and quick (so mw could stitch me up asap). About the sling/hands-free vs putting them down situation, I did a combination of both and baby didn't spontaneously combust. I reckon it's possible to take the best bits of both and play it by ear once you get to know your baby. Re sleeping: with 1st baby she went into own room at 4 months but didn't sleep through the night til she was well over a year. With second baby we co-slept for the first 9 months. She too only slept through the night when she was about a year old so not much difference between the two (Lottie your sis is very lucky!). The big difference however was that I got much more sleep myself the second time round and was much happier. If the sleeping thing is hereditary, then I'll probably end up co-sleeping again! Lumpy I am getting the most overwhelming urge to have my hospital bag sorted...and also to start the nesting bit but I still have 7 weeks to go at work. Want to finish now and be a homebody!

Thanks ladies for sharing.
This insomnia is killing me ,only got 4 hours last night. OH is ill and think im getting it now. lumpy and diz
I want to do Everything. Even sleep deprived trying to sort out baby room so diy all evening, thinking of what needs to be in hospital bag ( lucazade and power bars, list of things to keep oh occupied). And that's without trying to do work stuff.

Sorry for whinge but Im a bit low on energy at the mo :(

liberuna I'm exactly the same. Can't sleep but exhausted. Have six wks left at work but have had to say to boss I'm not coping with my high stress job! Having a meeting tomorrow to try and come up with ideas about working smarter... And in my place that's no mean feat so hope you can do same? I'm not holding my breath but I've had to let them know that the stress and tiredness has me on my knees.

I have lots of lovely lists for hosp bag etc and enjoying ticking things off and just shoving in spare/baby room when I have a sec. Def feel like having things on their way from amazon etc is helping my mind stop whirring (74 newborn pampers for £7 at the mo). All being delivered to work which is amusing my work colleagues no end...

What do people think about swaddling wrap/blankets/ sleeping bags?

I'll join you on the knackered bench. I was feeling so good after my 2 weeks holiday...sleeping 10.5 hours a day and pottering about the house. One day back at work and I'm fucked again. Fell asleep in the doctors' waiting room yesterday, then again when I got home. Woke up too tired to make dinner. Ate beans on toast. Went to bed. Feel like crap today. It's not even a high stress job like yours Lottie it's just the getting up early and driving to work in the dark and sitting here for 9 hours that I'm finding too much.

Not thought about hospital bag yet. Might start. Our bathroom is nearly done so the end is in sight for clearing out the baby's room and putting baby things in it rather than bathroom things!

I've heard sleeping bags are great.

I'm exhausted. Dropped the kids of at school, went to get my bloods done, post a card and got home absolutely drenched so I took myself back to bed and have been watching tv. Feel so lazy! But I have to get up soon to collect dd then we need to go and do the food shopping and clean out the guinea pigs.

Hi all, not been on the thread for a while, will now go up and read from the top, but just wanted to say hi [waves]

Had first of NCT classes last night. Found it useful to go over the birthing process with OH there. Hadn't really thought about in the context of him being there as my birthing partner perhaps also finding it useful to know stuff. [Sling] how did your class go?

Totally get the fatigue thing. It's awful isn't it? I've turned into Mrs Lazy. The housework and baby preparations has slipped. Even the washing and ironing seems ambitious. Hoo hum. Only 6 weeks left at work .

[Lottie] were your sister's formula fed or breast fed? Was it demand feeding?
I don't have much to go on but my sister-in-law totally pah-poohed Gina Ford's booked as pure fantasy. She demand breast fed her second baby. At a year old he was screaming all night and she had to be signed off her part time job that she had just returned to for exhaustion. Her husband would pace the floor at night with the baby on his back to get him to sleep. This poor baby is allergic to cows milk, soya and has suspected coeliac disease as has been much better since stopping wheat. He's now 16 months but still wakes them every day at ar

Ooopps pressed post too soon!

... At around 5am for a feed and won't take a bottle only her breast.

On the other hand, my sisters second time round was a set of twins. She formula fed them and they were sleeping through at 12 weeks. Knowing my sister - Mrs Organised - she would have had some kind of schedule. The twins are perfectly fine with no allergies.

lottie
The sleeping bags look great. As I keep reading don't put blanket (for over heating) don't have pillows and toys (for suffocating). Im getting 2-3 for while they're in the moses basket.

BTW - not making judgements here. Sister in laws baby was very sickly and had difficultly putting on weight. Who's to say they wound have done any differently in her position?

Lottie we used sleeping bags with DD and I would not use anything else now, in fact poor bump will be forced to wear DD's pink ones as I'm buggered if I'm spending a fortune on a new set

I'll join you all on the exhausted front, I find it when the bub has a growth spurt which is every bloody week of course! I was meant to be out on site visits today but got dressed sat down on the bed to put my shoes on and write literally slept til 1 thankfully I wasn't meeting anyone! I have a very spruce work place so can work from home and have lots of high up women with kids already so it's very understanding. Still can't help but feel guilty tho!

Tk maxx has sleepy bags in quite often so worth having a look in there

supportive not spruce!

I preferred the idea of a spruce workplace! Had heard gro bags etc not suitable from birth but delighted if they are. Will check out tk maxx! John Lewis have a third off two grobag designs I see.

yogi my sister bottle fed from v early on. Had never really considered if that was a factor before! Want to beast feed but this demand led stuff sounds 'orrid.

Am currently contemplating the hell of ringing boss up say too exhausted to work tomorrow or the hell of going in... I need her to get upduffed so she has a vague inkling of what it's like!

That should be breast not beast. Although, maybe it wield either way...

Yogi if the baby was allergic to all that then it's no wonder they were up half the night! It's perfectly possible to feed on demand but 99% of babies will still find their own rhythm / routine within a few months, demand feeding has been shown to reduce obesity rates as baby gets used to feeding when they are hungry not simply because its time for a boob/bottle.

I love baby sleeping bags and will definitely use them for this baby but they can't be used if baby is under a certain weight (think its about 8.5lbs) so we are planning to swaddle this time - I've bought some of [[Summer Infant Cotton Swaddle Me (Pack of 3, Pink)
amazon.co.uk/dp/B004I9I2SG these]] as I don't trust myself not to swaddle too tightly around baby's hips thinks about how bad I am at wrapping Christmas presents :)

I think I will be beast feeding with my breast!!

Hi All! Just caught up with everyone's updates. I've done a lot more research into the home-birthing now, and aside from needing to convince my OH, he's a little worried about safety etc. but he's happy to go with what i want, i still want him to feel at ease with it any suggestions for getting him more involved in the decision making process? He's happy to leave everything to me, and I have a feeling it's because his ex decided everything about her pregnancies without discussion. So he was pushed out and not even at the births as they were old C-Sections when 'guests' weren't allowed into the theater etc. :(

maybe get him to watch some positive videos of home births, or get him to do the research over types of pool if you're going to use one of those? It's a hard one isn't it. I think mine is more scared to make any decisions in case I'm not happy or things go wrong!

Hi, Yogi, my class was ok-a-a-a-ay-ish. It is a free Bumps, Birth & Beyond course (four weeks) and run by two women who are not midwives (I arrived late so need to get the lowdown on their proper jobs). The main leader was a fat, fifty-odd year-old Geordie with the highest pitched, whiniest voice I've ever heard. Her accomplice looked like she sold fruit & veg on the market. Almost the entire two hours was taken up with Breastapo-esque brainwashing punctuated with inane and patronising drivel about how important it is to clean our teeth. Lots of assumptions were made about demand-feeding and we were made to feel as about maternal as Myra Hindley because we were not massively talking to our babies in utero.

Other than that it was fucking brilliant

awake and considering v early breakfast! Stupid prego insomnia

I also had the first antenatal class yesterday: normal NHS ones. There were quite a few 'staff' there, I'm sure at least one of them was a midwife but was slightly late so missed the introduction to the person who was mainly leading it.
The first one was about birth: no gruesome video thankfully!! I think feeding is next week.