Martians 2014 Thread 14: on intra-uterine discos and knocking stuff over with your bump.

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I've never got on with bras. I've tried and tried and tried again. I know what a well fitting bra is supposed to look like etc but when I've got one on it drives me crazy. I don't suppose there's any getting around nursing bras though.

My boobs have always been tiny and I've been the same size forever - this is a whole new world! I only wish I could enjoy them and they weren't so sensitive and painful.

Mine are tiny too, but I like it that way. I'm not best pleased at them getting bigger, but I guess it has to be that way.

mrsk, I find all the size comments really annoying too. This time I haven't had any yet as I haven't told any local friends that I'm pregnant.

I don't entirely understand why people who have no particular reason to expect anything going wrong celebrate about reaching "viability day" perhaps because having read about the odds of it happening and odds of survival and the health implications of being that premature I don't see it as a point beyond which the baby is suddenly "safer" but I know that people work in different ways and what is reassuring to one person may not be to another. However, passing that point is something that matters to me because I previously lost a baby not long before that point which means that legally she counts as a "miscarriage" rather than a stillbirth (unlike most other English speaking countries where she would have been counted as a stillbirth) so passing that point for me means that legally my baby now "counts".

mummypig, how awful for your friend. I guess he didn't mean the "in sickness" bit of his marriage vows then.

fox, we are planning on co-sleeping with a sidecar cot (ours is actually an IKEA cot with the side off) the same as we did with DD2.

cool, don't be ashamed. We put DD1 in her own room from about ten days old. Although nothing bad happened or anything I wish I hadn't done that but I don't feel ashamed as we did what we felt was the best thing to do at the time.

if u search bra or bra measuring /fitting in the forums you'll find all the info and guidance u need. They get quite militant about it on the style and beauty boards!
I've spoken to loads of friends about the non wired guidance. They are hideous all the ones i've seen plus are pretty uncomfortable, yes I succumbed to buying one and hated it!

What's everyone else's op opinion on them - to wire or not to wire that is the question

That's where I've got all my knowledge from diz! . It was quite fascinating following some of those bra threads a few months back. I went from a 34AA to a 30DD. Not bad. But I rather gave up before finding the 'perfect' bra.

I reckon wired is fine as long as you are really sure it fits properly and keep checking that it still fits regularly. Personally, I don't think I would have the confidence to go for it though.

Wired bras are uncomfortable for me now even at the right size - i'm strictly in stretchy non wired bras for the foreseeable.

God I miss sleeping without a bra :(

In other news - I am SO over emotional at the moment - I'm welling up at TV charity adverts, the lot!

sore boobs and tearful - is this a growth/hormone surge?

I envy all of you ladies with smaller chests. I was a 36 E pre pregnancy. I need to get fitted again before I fall out of the current one. My bras already look like scafolding, bras in the smaller sizes are much prettier I think.

I've always worn wired, tried to go non wired as I got bigger B-DD but it soo uncomfortable went back to wired. Maybe because its what I'm used to?

Ladies, I have a question.. What is the etiquette with getting borrowed equipment? Scenario friend of friend has offered cot, moses basket and a baby seat. They have a three year old and it was offered as " We can lend you the stuff as long as we get it back when you finished. In case we have 2nd child ".

Now I feel a bit weird about taking it in case it gets damaged and don't have anything to give back. Thoughts?

combining both of these topics I nearly cried in m&s the other day at the nursing bras, they were hideous, I just abandoned the shop assistant with the bread I'd been looking at dating I had to run

bras not bread and saying not dating.....damned auto correct!

Lib I personally have politely declined anything offered just to borrow - I would be gutted if anything happened to it, and something like a cot which most babies chew, use for a long time etc I just wouldn't trust to be returned in the same condition.

Fox if you are small chested you can get away without nursing bras - I had 2 and never really used them, was just as easy to whip a boob out over the top of a normal bra!

Re britax car seat, I think there's a way to use the oyster carseat on a britax pram but not certain. Either that, or just don't use the car seat on the pram, ours fitted but never really bothered!

lib maybe a discussion with said friend, explain concerns and what ifs and timescales. I think I would have ur exact same concerns.

Hmm, maybe I'll try without then Rock. Maybe it would work just pulling cropped top up or down. To be honest, when I'm at home I don't wear any kind of bra but I guess I will need to in future due to leakage!

I know Britax car seats fit on Oyster prams so maybe it works the other way around too. I've heard Maxi Cosi to Oyster adaptors also work on Britax. It's bloody complicated!

But yeah, maybe we won't even need the car seat to go on the pram. I'm finding it hard to imagine life with a baby.

We didn't have a carry cot - just used the car seat on the pushchair to start with. I found it pretty useful TBH. I guess it depends what you will be doing.

I think Rock - you've said before you want a light, smallish pram that is easy to manoeuvre around shops? And dont use a car much? In that case I can see why a car seat wouldn't be used much. I live in the sticks and use the car a fair amount to get to baby groups etc. So transferring the car seat (with baby in it) onto the pushchair worked well for me.

And before anyone raises the old 'baby shouldn't be in car seat too long, blah blah'. I know.

lib I'd probably take it - but have the conversation before you do. Along the lines of 'We will look after it as best we can, but there may be accidents and there will be wear and tear. If you are concerned, please don't lend it to us'. Then, when you do eventually give it back you could add to it - throw in a bumbo or a bath seat or whatever.

Unless something has sentimental value, I always borrow and lend on the understanding that anything broken or ruined is just replaced!!

Ice I don't have a car now since we moved last year, but drove everywhere when DS was tiny as we lived further afield from most of the baby groups etc. I don't like babies in car seats for extended periods, so would pretty much always take him out of the car seat once we arrived somewhere. Only exception really was the supermarket as I don't like the baby trolley seats, but I wouldn't use the pram frame for this, I'd just plonk the car seat in a trolley :)

liberuna, we were loaned clothes on the basis that the person might have another child and in all honesty it was just a nuisance. It meant I had to keep track of and store that stuff separately and I couldn't just get rid of stuff I didn't use or didn't want for a future child. Then the person did have another child and so I gave her the stuff which she then returned a year later having obviously not even opened half the bags but those she had she obviously kept the stuff she did use. This has meant that every so often I find we are short of something in a given size which is more inconvenient when you are getting stuff out of storage as you need it than the first time when you are gradually acquiring things in advance. Since DD2 was born she has given us some clothes but when she gave stuff as a loaned item I told DH to give it back as it's just not worth the extra hassle of keeping track.

We were also loaned some larger items by a family who had finished having children and had kept the stuff and that was more useful as we knew we could have the stuff as long as we needed it and it saved us buying the odd unecessary thing. Most useful was a cot which we used for DD1 before deciding we wanted a different kind for DD2 and buying one.

We loaned a sling to BIL/SIL after they asked whether we had anything they could borrow and I only offered things that I knew I wouldn't mind if they came back in poorer condition as you can't really expect that things won't have a bit of wear and tear or expect guarantees against accidents.

just found this and thought would share it www.newscientist.com/article/dn18827-bumpology-can-old-wives-tales-tell-me-my-babys-sex.html#.UpUclb1FBiI

hi martians.
will start this thread from bottom
hope everyone feeling well

Sorry I haven't been on for a few days.

Boobs- I have massive H cup boobs which don't seem to have grown in this pregnancy and my normal bras are still comfortable. After Christmas I will probably get sorted with some maternity/nursing bras. The only changes to my boobs have been itchy and leaking nipples. Nice.

My friend says her husband has been better over the last few days. I still think he's a cock.

Hi everyone, just been catching up

Borrowed stuff - we are getting a crib, pram and cot that are expected back in case of further children/grandchildren. I'm not planning to worry too much about it as I don't think any of them were expensive to start with. Will offer to replace them if they get ruined or significantly damaged, but if we don't borrow them we'll have to buy them anyway so we wouldn't be losing out.

Sleeping arrangements - Crib in our room. We have to have the bedroom doors shut because of the cat so I suspect own room isn't appropriate until baby is older in case we don't hear it crying? Our bedroom would be very cramped with a cot but it would probably just about fit.

Eating - apologies to people who struggle with their weight, but although I have regained some of the weight I'd lost, I still haven't put any weight on overall (now 26 weeks). I feel like I'm eating loads, including plenty of ice-cream and chocolate now morning sickness has passed, but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Anyone else found this? I presume it's not a problem as long as I feel ok otherwise?

I agree mummy just cause he's being 40% less of a dick still makes him a dick.

Hi Chaffinch just jump in :)

Thanks for the advice guys. Exactly what I was afraid off. Can't afford any new stuff so taking anything I can get. But if i have to buy a replacement anyway I might as well get full use of a brand new item for myself.

imeg unless mw has said anything sounds like you're ok. My sweet tooth is going crazy trying to keep to fruit and honey (on everything) but can't help having sugar puffs/coco pops. And I still look quite small for 25 weeks