January 2014(Thread 10) - Getting out of breath!Don't forget to squeeze when you sneeze laydeez!

[Toothfairy78]

Diddle-leee-deeeee. Diddle-lid-did-deee! It's the finaaaal countdown!

Oh yeah third trimester!

Hoping we bring space and idris with us....

I know Toby. It is really odd. It was only when I mentioned the flu vaccine, that she said they recommend that between October and Feb and then mentioned the Whooping Cough vaccine at the same time. She didn't then say I needed to organise those myself. I had to ask and she confirmed I should contact the GP surgery to sort them out....

I haven't looked up the pros and cons of the whooping cough vaccine. I did look up the flu jab ones last year and decided it was definitely worth having it. Can you imagine if you had really bad flu AND were trying to give birth at the same time! Nuff said for me!

She said they recommend the whooping cough vaccine in this area for everyone because it protects bubs for the first 8 weeks after birth, before they have their own vaccination - there have been outbreaks recently (presumably from people not vaccinating babies....). I had whooping cough when I was a baby apparently, so I just thought it made sense - didn't really question it.... I should perhaps start looking into these things, but the midwives and nurses are so blase about these things that I don't tend to, (plus I worry I would read something that would put me off and make me paranoid and I know how important vaccines are for keeping diseases under control and preventing epidemics etc....). Also I feel I look up too many things as it is.....!

I am 28 weeks and 4 days. This was the first time they measured me, but they routinely do BP and urine. Shouldn't need any further bloods as long as my iron levels come back OK....

I got a leaflet about Whooping cough vaccination at my 16 wk appointment. They are recommending all pregnant women have it as in the last 2 yrs there's been a big increase in whooping cough in babies. It's can be really quite dangerous including brain issues and risk of death. Apparently, even if you have the disease as a child or the vaccination you aren't covered and you need to have the vac after 28 weeks of pregnancy in order to pass the immunity to your baby until as Sultana says the baby has their own jab.

I'm gonna be a pincushion - flu jab, whooping cough jab and anti d ! Oh well.

Still feeling rough with cold and cough and off work. Bored now and can't do anything I need to do as zero energy.

Sorry for missing bdays yday - hope you had a fab time Humpty and Toby.

I had whooping cough as a baby too sultana. I assumed I'd be immune as a result, but I'm not. My mum has told me how horrific it was (3 of us had it at the same time!) and I definitely don't want to put my baby through that if I can avoid it so I'm having the jab done. I'm also having my flu jab and 28 week bloods done next week. That'll be a fun day off!
My mw hasn't mentioned birth plans at all, and I haven't got a clue about it! I was hoping to give birth in the mlu rather than on the maternity ward, but other than that I don't know what I want. From what other people have said I might want to avoid an epidural, but really I just want to get her out safely so I'll probably go with whatever it takes (and as much gas and air as they'll give me :) )

My MW told me about the vacs at my booking appointment at 8 weeks!!
She wrote them in my file ready so that I would remember.
I am having all the vacs I can. Had my flu one over the weekend and that is to protect the mother as your immune system lowers during pregnancy and I really don't want flu as I have heard it is horrific!
The whooping cough is for bubs and with all the outbreaks I just think it is worth it.

I have my 28 week app next week and as a first timer I think I have apps every 3 weeks from 25 weeks.
If its your second I think that you miss the 25 week and the 31 week unless there are issues or they want you to have them.
Can't wait to get the belly measured (can see how huge I really am)

Well dh didn't get the job He text me with a sad face!
I have told him it wasn't meant to be and am sure that more will come up soon and we'll be ok. Made up some lame reason as to why he wouldn't want the job anyway.
Need to think of a non money requiring thing to do tonight to keep him upbeat. Want to make sure he stays positive (its only October and he has already had an interview) but also make sure that he doesn't end up taking a job that he will hate to get us money as next year is going to be emotionally tough being first time parents and I don't want him depressed and low because he hates his job (he had an awful job last year that he hated and he just wasn't him iyknim)

Sorry for your dh frizz. Mine went through a similar thing and it is so tough to see them when they are down.

book I'm with you on the pin cushion. Although thankfully I won't be having all mine done at the same time, flu this weekend, anti-d 1.5 weeks later and whopping cough yet to be decided!

frizz, that must be hard for you both. The only thing you can do is try and stay as optimistic as possible - the "we'll be fine" mantra will hopefully eventually get to him too. Sounds like you've got the right attitude though, so I'm sure you guy will be fine. Good luck!

It's amazing how different it is in each area! Book I felt the same when my Mum told me how awful it was when I was little. What a sucky start that would be! My midwife hasn't mentioned birth plans either....

Frizz how unbelievably gutting for you and your DH. Sounds cheesy, but could you perhaps make him a card of some sort saying "well done for getting the interview" and "it's their loss" etc. and sign it from you and bump, saying that you will both always be there for him no matter what? I did something like that for my DH when he got some bad news recently and it seemed to help and at least put a smile on his face as he was totally not expecting it.....

Percy sorry you are feeling rough. There is so much going round at the moment!

Sorry he didn't get the job, Frizz :(

Hi all. I have my midwife appointment, bloods and both jabs this afternoon. Am 28 weeks tomorrow, but they said whooping cough can be done from 27.5 so I might as well have it done the same time as everything else. Will let you know how it goes and if my arm drops off. I was measured at 25 weeks too.
I am so bad at timing my peeing, last time I went I could only squeeze out a dribble and I think I have performance anxiety now. Still I'm glad I don't have to carry my pee around with me and take it home afterwards - I can't believe you have to do that. My GP/ MW asks me to open it for them but I think that makes sense with infection control and all, then I've just put it on their clinical waste bin on my way out the room.
frizz, boo to DH's interview, hope you manage to have a good evening.

Sorry your DH didn't get the job frizz, sounds like you will do a good job cheering him up though.

Am off work today, feeling seriously rough. Headachey, hot and cold, just grim. I forgot how bad a cold is when you can't live on Day Nurse . I also have a weird, hot rash on my neck, which is driving me insane.

I got measured & bp tested at 25 weeks, but no bloods.

So, DH went to the letting agents today to sign the contract & pick up keys. He asked them to clarify a few points on the contract - all fine. Then he pointed out two things on the contract that he wasn't happy about: if we do 'anything' which increases the insurance premium, we're liable (but we don't get to see insurance policy) and if the house burns down and it's not our fault, the landlord has no obligation to re-house us. He asked for both to be amended; they refused, saying it's company policy not to amend the standard contract .

Not sure what to do now. We don't want to sign a contract that could lay us open to a LOT of cost (in the very unlikely event they enforce that clause, obvs), but equally, we've waited two months to get this house and in another two months it'll be nearly Christmas, and we have to move (I 'slept' with the window open last night because of being so hot - the last plane roared over at 11.15pm, the first one at 5.45am ) before then.

Why are letting agents such cuntpuffins? I'd call the landlords direct, but the contact details given are the letting agents', not theirs... Would we be mad to take a risk and sign?

Sorry about the job frizz. And that contract sounds very sketchy humpty - what if you were burgled? Would you be liable for the increase in premium because of broken windows etc? Or if the washing machine leaked? How long would you be liable for the increase? How would they know what part of the increased premium was due to the claim?

We have bloods at 28 weeks (at hospital in my case). I'm having the flu jab tomorrow and will book the whooping cough one while I'm there.

Thanks tarka. Advice from a lawyer chum is that if these are standard T&Cs, and they won't negotiate, it actually doesn't matter, as the 'fairness' or otherwise would be judged by the OFT if it came to it (which, obvs, we hope very much it won't!!) We're not thrilled, but the lawyer chum is adamant we can sign and still be safe, so I think we're going ahead. We've put in writing that we're accepting these as standard T&Cs, not negotiated, apparently this makes all the difference!

Meant to say - I'm going to ask about the WC & flu jabs next mon (28 week appt) - I guess I'll have to have them done at the GPs, but since we will have moved (HOPEFULLY!) by then, not sure how that will work! I def want both - the flu one because I can't quite believe how rubbish I feel just with a cold, and flu is so very much worse than this (had it twice, both time incapacitated for three weeks).

Hi everyone

I had read that anti-d jabs are horrid but thanks to a few bleeds I have had three this pregnancy and can tell you its not a huge deal... And I'm a fainter when it comes to needles!

Had my first yoga class last night which was fab. Def need to get into better habit with the DVD! All the women I talked to are due within a week either side of me and in the same hospital so it was great to connect with them.

Sadly DP and I aren't getting along great and I may be a single mum within the next few days. Basically gave him an ultimatum. Been trying to put a happy face on for weeks... Months maybe. I can't keep it up though. I'm not going to be his maid or his mum... Though apparently I'm being unreasonable... Should I suck it up and do everything for him? Already do everything ( inc making separate meals and organising cards and gifts for his family) except lift his stuff after him and clean the shower ( his chore to protect baby from fumes). He's supposed to clean kitchen after dinner but rarely did it and now his job means he's away til almost midnight, so its my job anyway. Theres other stuff too that I'd rather not get into but overall stinks of immaturity. He's not much like he was when we were just dating :( thought he was so thoughtful and sweet, making loads of effort and made me feel v special.

Gah! Sorry - needed to get that off my chest.... Back to babies now

For changing bag, since i want to use a sling, I got a £12 backpack with a few utility pockets, plus two sets if 3 clear zipped vanity bags from m&s. plan is to have one with baby clothes, one with my clothes and breast pads etc and last with any other bits..book, tissues etc. One set in bag other set packed and ready to grab. We are using cloth nappies so they have their own wet bag ( using mostly bamboo little lambs, with motherease wraps, a few tot bot v2s, a fuzzi bunz elite and another one I got cheap but can't remember what it is, plus being given loads of pre-folds)

Oh, Blue, I'm sorry to hear that about you and DP. It sounds like an ultimatum was the right thing to do, hard as it must be. You don't need another child :(

Thanks Toby. I really don't want to split up but I've asked him to step up so many times. Hoping its the kick up the backside he needs to realise how serious I am!

Thanks guys, i like the card idea sultana I might make one at work tomorrow using the colour printer!
He seems ok at the moment and has purchased himself a beer for later and he found out he has an interview somewhere else next week so hoping that perks him up. It doesnt help that if he wants feedback he has to call tomorrow (who has the confidence after a knock back to call up for feedback?)

blue so sorry things are tough. Sometimes men need an ultimatum to really understand how much their behaviour is affecting you. Keep your chin up and hope that things pan out well whatever the outcome.

blue I'm really sorry to hear this. I agree that the ultimatum sounds like a good plan - I really hope he steps up. I think sometimes men don't realise how important it is to actually be a partner, not just say you are.
If it helps, I've come to the point of breaking up with DH before about exactly this sort of thing, and we weathered it. Took a lot of crying & shouting. They don't get how much it matters until you make it really really clear to them. Have a ((hug)), lovely.

Hi all,

Sounds like you've all got hassles today.

blue not sure what to say so sending hugs and sympathy. I hope you get the outcome that's best for you and baby.

frizz shame about the job today. But good to hear he's got another interview lined up. Sending hugs and encouragement.

I came home from work crying today. I've been given more work to do and I was completely beyond overloaded before I was pg. We've been trying to argue the case for more staff for ages. What really made it insulting was that I was given it only recently, go chased yesterday to give a rough figure, and today asked if'd I'd got an official quote in yet! Work sucks balls it really does.

On the plus side, got headhunted today but it's on the other side of the country.

Might go look at some baby stuff to cheer me up! Squishy baby things!

for frizz & Blue. Keeping fingers crossed for his interview next week, frizz. I hope everything works out for the best for you, blue.

Thanks toby, I didn't think we got eyecare but wanted to check!

I'm struggling to find a backpack to use as a changing bag that won't make me look like a secondary school student!

tooth for you. I had the same - had to 'cost out' the tasks I'd been assigned, plus my 'normal' job, by quarter, half or full days, and point out that I have 34 working days left, and 36 days worth of work.

Added to the fact I was off last Thursday morning as I was crying & puking because I was so stressed about it, and he really didn't have a choice but to let some things go.

Can you do the same? I really really recommend it. It's a scientific way to combat the never ending work pressure crap.

Hello all - sorry to hear lots of people having a tough time with partners, jobs, partner's jobs, letting agents and dreaded lurgies. Maybe we've all got end of 2nd trimester blues?
First feeling of "I need my body back" today - I'm having monster kicks low down which I've been quite amused by so far but last night puggle jr had wedged some part of itself under my diaphragm and oooh it hurts. Not heartburn, trusty ranitidine has sorted that, just intermittent pain high up and a horrible feeling of being full when I've not eaten much. Dreadful when I'm trying to do stuff at desk all day today. I should be treating it like labour and not thinking "omg I've got 13 weeks of this how will I manage" but my mind keeps thinking 13 weeks...13 weeks or maybe even more to go....Maybe if my bump starts growing out not up it won't be so bad?

Thanks humpty,

I guess our bosses are panicking cos they know it's going to be bad when we're off. I had a think about my work list and think there's some things I can afford to drop.

Well, I cheered myself up by concocting a random sweet bread and sticking it in the slow cooker, then a short walk to the shop.

And ToothJr kicked and squiggled while I sat on sofa, which made me happy. And I found this show on Channel 4 called Masters of Sex which has mad me chortle...check it out!

Puggle - have you tried making baby move? Best I've found if mine is being stubborn is get on all fours and walk your arms forward til your face could touch the floor, but keeping your butt and thighs up in the air. (Alternatively do if woth yoir knees on sofa edge, hands on floor, but only so that if you have someone to help you up after!)Then when you feel baby move lie on your side before they can get comfy in new position. Maybe its just coincidence but its worked for me every time she gets too comfy in my diaphragm!

tooth I think that's exactly what they're doing. Plus, if they aren't/haven't been/haven't had wives or partners who have been pregnant, they probably have no clue that you simply just slow down as pregnancy progresses. Mine has no clue! Despite our chat, and the agreement to take workload away, he emailed today (shouldn't check email on a sick day!) to add to my workload. Emailed back with a cheery 'as you'll remember, we agreed that I already have more than enough to fill my remaining days, especially as I've had an unexpected day off; happy to advise who else might be able to do this though'. No reply .

So, as well as the lurgy of death, I have a weird pulling ache on the left hand side of bump. Right in the middle - where my waist was is. Not awful, just like trapped wind (it's not that, I have... released... and no relief!) or something. I really should go back to work tomorrow. Bah.

Morning Ladies (or should I say women of steel???)

Humpty hope the house gets sorted and you start feeling better soon. I too had a sharp pain last night down my left hand side of bump by my waist - like trapped wind but wasn't (I too released...!). It kept coming and going - no idea what it was but freaked me out a tad! Grrrr!

Blue you won't be happy if you don't say something now, so it sounds as though you have done the right thing! He needs to know and now it's up to him to do something about it! Fingers firmly crossed he sees the light!

Frizz great your DH has another interview next week. It sucks phoning up for feedback - even if the feedback turns out to be "you were our second choice", it still takes huge guts to call in the first place!!!

Tooth and Humpty I too have had similar dramas re: getting cover for me at work (which are still ongoing). Something that should be sooooo simple has turned into a complicated mess as usual! Also had to prove my job is actually too big for one person and OMG that was sooooo incredibly stressful! Spent one weekend just crying about how frustrated it was making me! In theory I should be starting to train my replacements in two weeks' time. There will be no "wind down" time for me! Sooo grateful I have holiday to tag onto the start of my mat leave - gonna need it me thinks!

Puggle that sounds uncomfortable! I definitely have days where I love having the bump and others where I feel mega uncomfortable and invaded almost. It's weird!

Well, had first NCT class last night. Was really nervous before we went, but everyone was really nice. There were 7 couples in total. There was just one couple I didn't really warm to and that was only because I didn't find them easy to talk to and the husband didn't give eye contact when talking to you once....!

We got split up into different groups quite a lot so there was only one girl I didn't end up talking to. One couple it turns out live literally around the corner from us...how amazing! Plus, most of our due dates are within a couple of days of each other. Mostly older mums too with their first child, so that's really cool!

DH actually seemed to have a good time and learnt things. It shocked me how much he didn't know, such as the comment he made about "OMG, so the baby is upside down when it comes out?" Ummmm, yep, that's what you are aiming for! So the class was 100% worth it just from that perspective.....

I didn't feel as though I had learnt a massive amount, but if reassured me that I actually knew quite a lot and what I thought I knew was correct which was good. Am actually looking forward to Saturday's session now!

For the benefit of Toby - it sucked. Totally not worth it - you aren't missing out!