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September 2013- Annoying "Any news?" texts, maternity leave and BABIES!

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fl0b0t · 28/08/2013 18:41

Looks like we need another new thread Blush- we've been rather busy!

Up to date (ish) Stats thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a1694946-September-2013-STATS-THREAD

As previously- Welcome newbies! If anyone wants to join the Facebook group (better for sharing documents and pictures- especially picture of gorgeous babies), please message myself or jennimoo with your real life name and email address and we can add you to the group!

Bring on the irritating texts from family members and best friends to find out whether you've had your babies or not (like you wouldn't tell them.....), more weird and disgusting labour symptoms, more internal examinations than you can shake a stick at, and LOTS OF BABIES!

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slowblonde · 09/09/2013 13:22

Baby news! Oran Marius born 3.43 am weighing 9 lb 8 oz at 39+ 6. Very quick labour and another lovely water birth. We're just over the moon with him and can't wait till he meets his big sister this afternoon! Think I win the prize for the biggest baby so far!

jennimoo · 09/09/2013 13:28

We are boats - I measured myself and ordered online. Ill post the links to how the MN bra intervention thingamys works later on then you can order some to be delivered. Mothercare were talking rubbish, you definitely need a 36 band if that's what you're measuring. Unfortunately m and s do the adding 4 inches too.

Weareboatsremember · 09/09/2013 14:05

Thanks for the help, I've settled on a 36DD which was comfortable around the ribs on the furthest hooks, but had a bit of breathing room in the cups for when the milk comes in. I probably need to get over my aversion to being seen/touched, as I'm being induced on Wednesday and I take it I can't stay fully clothed with my pants on for that!

Sorry for interrupting all of the labour and baby news, and good luck to everyone currently awaiting their babies x

Geesescareme · 09/09/2013 14:43

weareboats just realised you are my due date twin, best of luck for Wednesday!

Weareboatsremember · 09/09/2013 14:47

Thanks geese! Getting super nervous about the induction, I was hoping to go until the 18th but alas it's not to be ;)

MrsMangoBiscuit · 09/09/2013 16:17

Weareboats, I second jenni's suggestions. If you're a 36" measurement, there's no way you're a 40B. A 40" band won't offer you any support at all, but will quite possibly hurt, and make you look like you have a fat back! (woeful voice of experience there!)

I will be sticking to my night nursing bras, and vest tops with hidden support until they've calmed down a bit. Then I will be re-measuring myself, and either trying on everything in M&S, or ordering a heap online, in a range of sizes.

I hate bra shopping at the best of times, so I'm not looking forward to it at all, but I will manage to completely avoid being mauled by mis-trained sales assistants! Grin

ty for the second link jenni, will be having a good read of that later.

jennimoo · 09/09/2013 16:21

Im glad youve got sorted, weareboats. Felt awful for you reading about your experience :(

I don't trust anyone to measure me so was so pleased to find that the measuring method in the link seems to work for me. I have gone up 1 inch / cup size since pre birth and my back's stayed the same.

Joskar · 09/09/2013 16:35

boats I have nothing to add except my support Wink ... sorry... bras and boobs are emotive issues. I'm usually 32FF and I've gone up to a 38 which was very depressing and I cried. Now I'm wearing soft vest style bras which come in sm, med, lrg. £5 in Asda. I have never spent so little on a bra! Much better even though I resisted through almost the whole pregnancy because I thought it would be enough support it is far better than wearing ill fitting wires. Take heart. Recommendation for nursing bras has been Bravado which operate the s, m, l system.

TripleRock · 09/09/2013 17:16

My Mothercare sleep bras came in dress sizes too, which conveniently side steps the whole matter!

The trouble with getting yourself fitted wherever you go is that it's the luck if the drawer who you get measured by isn't it?

Bloody boobs! I'm going to see how my existing maternity bras with nursing clips serve me when the initial engorgement has settled down and then if a shopping trip is in order I will venture back out then.

andadietcoke · 09/09/2013 17:30

Mooster I actually love you a lot bit for that post. Also 11 days in, knackered and worrying how I'll cope after DH goes back to work. No thank you cards written, I fucked up bread in the breadmaker, and DT1 has decided that she doesn't fancy sleeping or eating properly today - 2oz feeds and won't sleep unless she's being cuddled - as soon as we put her down she wakes up.
Cried on the health visitor, and on DH, and then the bloody in laws have turned up.
It will get better, won't it?!

MrsMangoBiscuit · 09/09/2013 17:50

It WILL get better, it really will. A friend of DH's asked, when DD was only a few weeks old, if we'd had "that" moment of thinking "What the fuck have I done?!" when the reality of a newborn is kicking in, and it dawns on you that this is forever, and there's no going back. Yes, we had, but it was still too fresh to be able to answer! I think I stood there for an age with my mouth open before squeaking "nope!" (it's NOT forever btw, just feels like it!)

Ignore the breadmaker, and the thank you cards. If guests turn up, doesn't mean you HAVE to let them in. If you do, ask them to fold some laundry/make the tea/run the hoover around, or just hold the babies for 20 minutes so you can shower in absolute peace! Most of all, be kind to yourself. Pyjamas, crap food, sofa/bed, daytime TV, whatever you fancy, and all guilt free, it's been well and truly earnt.

mynameisnotmichaelcaine · 09/09/2013 17:57

The next person to text "Any news" or do a comedy double take at my bump still being there is going to get my mobile shoved up their arse.

BinarySolo · 09/09/2013 18:40

I still can't access the Facebook group. Not sure what's going on as I'm pretty sure I've been invited but for some reason my Facebook refuses to acknowledge it! Could it be that my Facebook email is an old one that no longer works? I thought the invite would show up in notifications. Bums.

jennimoo · 09/09/2013 18:40

I agree with mrsmangobiscuit, limit guests if you can but that might be hard if in laws are coming. Try to get DH to help manage them to give you space. I was so relieved once all 3 sets of grandparents had been and gone...

BinarySolo · 09/09/2013 18:42

Oh and congrats to all the new mums and 'Go Fl0'

jennimoo · 09/09/2013 18:44

Binary - have PMed you, we'll get you sorted somehow!

PurplePoppySeed · 09/09/2013 19:06

Bras - another one here who has gone from a 32 to a 36-38 with the same cup size. I can't believe it and I have to admit I've always cried about bras too!

Weareboats I used to measure myself as i hated buying bras so much!

I think this is where the mothercare mistake came from - In the past (10 years ago) you used to measure as follows - add the 4 inches to your actual rib cage measurement if you measured even (eg you measured 36 so wore a 40 bra), or add 5 if you measured odd (eg you measured 35 so wore a 40 bra). Then you used to measure around the widest part of your boobs and if they were the same size as the added 4/5 then you needed an A, 1 inch larger, B and so on... I.e. 35 or 36 rib, with 41 boob was a 40B!

Now it has completely changed and that's why I went through another repeated phase of crying, as the bra size will match your actual measurement round your ribs... eg you measure 36 on the ribs, so wear a 36 bra. I think the cup is therefore based on the true difference, ie 1 inch wider on the boobs is an A, 2 inches a B etc etc. So in this case 36 on the ribs, 41 on the boobs would give you a 36DD - so it sounds like you picked the perfect bra, but she measured you the old fashioned way which is both confusing and upsetting - and I've def been there too!

The only thing I did learn at mothercare that they didn't think of in M&S is that when we're pregnant, we should buy a bra to fit on the tightest hooks, so we have room to grow as baby grows and our ribs get bigger. Afterwards, when breast feeding our ribs should go back down a bit (there is hope joskar), so buy a bra that fits on the looser setting so as you shrink & the bra stretches with age, it continues to fit well.

Hope that helps, completely understand how you are feeling, I have always cried when buying bras until I found bravissimo a few years ago, but since being pregnant I've had the same experience. Flowers

Readytosettle · 09/09/2013 19:15

I hate bra shopping too....agree that bravissimo made life a whole lot easier, if you're lucky enough to have a Leia near by then that's even better. I got my hotmilk bra fitted at a baby show (by a lady who does home visits if u happen to live in Kent!). It's got 6 fastenings on the back & has survived my whole pregnancy as a result. Am going to wait for my milk to come in before I attempt bra shopping again...

jennimoo · 09/09/2013 19:20

My back has gone back to 'normal' now, in fact once the baby fully engaged I seemed to be about back to normal. Had gone up to about a 40 but back in a 34 now :)

badguider · 09/09/2013 19:25

I prefer to fit my bras myself based on what I already have and how tight they are rather than in inches and order online.
Right now though at 9days post birth and bf I am in sleep bras and vests as my breast size changes by the hour.

Weareboatsremember · 09/09/2013 20:10

I feel like much less of a drama queen now ladies, I thought it was just me who cried about bras! It doesn't help that I don't want the ladies in the fitting room to touch me, particularly when I have a huge pregnant tummy that they would have to see as well! Life would be so much easier as a man, they have so much less to worry about! x

RakeABedOfTyneFilth · 09/09/2013 20:46

Hello again everyone. Well I am home from the hospital and feel so much better to be with my boys.

There were two tricky things about today - one was that it turns out I wasn't in the £150 a night private room, I had been taken (at 1am, having had a total of two half hour dozes the whole day after labour and the op to remove placenta bits!) to the private birthing suite which was £450 a night room only. Shock DH was given a bill this morning for a deposit of over £1000 based on an expected few nights of staying. We are having to dispute this because although something about cost being different from where I was 'on a list' being said to me, I was in no state to understand what I was signing at 1am...!

The reason I was in overnight was that my Hb levels were low. My last bloods at 28w showed about 11.5 I think, and after the PPH and op and syntometrin they were 7.8. Overnight they had dropped further to 7.3 (which I would think is unsurprising given I had had hardly anything to eat and hardly any rest). So anyway, I was advised to have a transfusion, which I really didn't want but I didn't have great reasons that I could articulate. I just said I didn't want it, and I had support at home not to need to lift a finger for weeks if necessary, and would be able to maintain taking supplements and eating an iron rich diet to replace what was lost. I would go for testing through my GP and would be prepared to change plan if diet and supplements weren't working.

I am so lucky to have DH not needing to go back to a job. His redundancy earlier this year was such a silver lining really. He is also actually amazing anyway [soppy grin]

I'm now reading up all sorts of links on here about low iron and tiredness making it take longer for milk to come in, but also that transfused blood can boost your blood volume and iron but it doesn't carry the birth/pregnancy levels of oxytocin which are needed to be coursing around through the body to help milk production. Baby seems to be getting something from my colostrum however, and I have already felt more rested and recovered just from being home. I dont think I have had much benefit of being a second-timer... it was no less of a shell-shocking process, this birth lark, but for different reasons this time! At least I got the paed check and hearing screen out of the way today while waiting for discharge, as those would have been a pain to deal with from home.

I 'took to my bed' as they say in books straight away on arrival home at 2.30 and have only moved to go to the loo since. Loving all the bra talk (wow there's a real world out there with shops and everything!) and more babies arriving. Congrats slowblonde!

mynameisnotmichaelcaine · 09/09/2013 21:08

Rake, after I had DD, I had an Hb level of 5.5. I also refused a transfusion, as I didn't want to get Mad Cow Disease (LOL now, but this was 10 years ago, and they didn't screen, also my Mum had just died and I was just generally scared of anything relating to serious illness).

Anyway, I didn't have a transfusion, as was allergic to the horrible tablets they gave me. I took 2 sachets of Spatone every day and ate loads of pate, steak and leafy green veg. Dried apricots also good (although I hate them!)

Tbh, looking back it was about 8 weeks before I was properly better. I was very, very weak for quite a long time. It was more tiring feeding dd than ds, and I had less milk, although plenty enough to feed her, it was just that she was on for literally hours at a time! Be kind to yourself and accept all of the help you are offered.

PurplePoppySeed · 09/09/2013 21:08

Congrats Snow - only the second Oran I've ever heard of, brilliant name Grin

Rake glad you're home and ok, I can't believe they have a £450 a night room! I'm sure they'll back down - likewise I'm sure there wasn't anyone else queuing for the room either at that price!

Jeni so glad to hear that ribs go down again, mine haven't yet even though baby has dropped a bit! So ready if I go with hot milk, should I order smaller in the hope that they actually have clips a bit bigger than normal but will shrink with me?