October 2013 - Are we neary *there* yet?!

[MrsHoratioNelson]

Welcome, welcome, sit down, put your feet up.

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Bloody hell niece not neice. So preoccupied with my worries it's affecting my ability to spell.

Orange for me when it first went up a couple of weeks ago I popped into MDU and they took bloods etc and I didn't have have PE then. Last time it came on at around 36 weeks (routine MW appointment and they found my BP at 160/110!) so I'm just keeping an eye out and keeping records.

Sorry to interupt - due on 17th Oct so a long time lurker.

Shirehobbit - 4/5ths isnt really engaged - dont worry. That means MW can feel 4/5ths of baby's head above the pelvis.

You dont start to engage proplerly until 3/5 and then 2/5ths and 1/5th etc

Hi all thanks for the words of support and thoughts you have out my way today. Chat and cry with the midwife this morning has helped a bit I think as I no shave a bit more knowledge linked to the three options that I apparently have But now need to make a decision by Thursday and ring her so she can get ball rolling with anything I need doing.

Got to have a deep and meaningful tonight with dh and possibly my mum if we decide on elc as I think it would be my mum in with me after the horror that was last time I just don't think dh can stand the thought of watching that again.

As for reason ds ended in emcs I got to 5cm before I went in but then he had a meconium and after a further 12 hours I was at 9cm but he began getting distressed and his head got stuck too. This obviously might not happen this time but it was all just so horrendous that I don't want to end up in the same position again.

Apparently I can opt for elc at 39weeks but still try sweeps at 38weeks to see if I'd go in to early labour naturally as that way she might not be so big. I can choose to have a scan to see how big she is but they are apparently not very accurate or I can do both. Or I can go for vbac and see! Still not sure what to do but apparently recovery after elc is quicker and better than emcs.

Thanks for all your thoughts today and hopefully we can make a decision tonight so that I can rest a bit easier :)

MoN this sounds horrendous and she sounds so distressed... it's so upsetting to read it and I hope the school will sort it out. They must do. It must be so hard on you as seeing our children go through this kind of pain is excruciating. Act quickly. Poor girl xx

I texted my ex FIL about the vaccine and he recommended I do it. He sent me some recent academic medical links and suggested it especially because of DS being in primary school and bringing germs home. I told him they offer only the combined vaccine in the UK and he still recommended I have it. So I will book it for this week... I don't like trusting NHS blindly but I trust him and know this is his area of speciality, he travels the world lecturing about lung diseases, so difficult to ignore it.
But tarlia yes, he advised against BCG 5 years ago and also consulted two of his colleagues about it (one in the US and one in Italy) - they said BCG is not very effective anyway and can cause a range of complications. So he thought risks outweighed the potential benefits.
He sent me such a lovely message... it made me emotional... I miss my ex FIL... we used to be such great friends, talked about everything, read the same books, had the same sense of humour. Is it silly to miss my ex family?

roxvox welcome back!

pseudo I do the same thing at night when I can't be bothered to get up and in meetings. Until I'm in so much pain that I literally have to do something about it

flyer my DP gets this kind of BP readings from time to time and it scares me to death... I arranged a GP appointment for him without asking a few months ago and he cancelled it. I keep telling him he needs to change his diet (I control his dinners thanks god but not the rest!), he needs to drink less and he needs to exercise (he ignores the last two...). I'm convinced these things would make a massive difference. I don't want him to get a heart attack, or develop diabetes II or start taking BP medicine - I know that once you start, it's extremely difficult to go off it. He is such an intelligent and educated man but so stupid at the same time. Makes me angry. I keep telling him he is a father now so hoping the baby in his arms will wake him up and he will want to live forever... this is my major frustration with him

MoN im so sorry to hear about your daughter. Should the the school not be punishing these bullies for what they've been doing over the last two years to multiple children, rather than just threatening them with punishment for future behaviour? I hope your dd can get the support she needs.

I've spent the day sleeping with a lunch break in between, and feel much better for it. I listened to my natal hypnotherapy cd after lunch and it didn't put me to sleep, but it came very close. I slept very well afterwards.

Welcome Morello
I thought what you've just described is 4/5 palpable?!
I've definitely felt pelvic heavy, iyswim Orange - with pressure?

I have muddled genes with the bp/heart disease - my Dad's side has a history of heart problems, high bp etc but my Mum's are virtually indestructible, low bp, often living to be 100yrs plus.

Thanks ladies! Happy to be back on the forum not so much at work!

shire I think that means that baby is 1/5 engaged. They work back to front, so when your records say that baby is 0/5 then he/she is fully engaged! My records have shown 5/5 for the past 4 weeks, and it had me shocked at first.

Yes, I am tall shire, so there is plenty of room for baby to be hiding, and it certainly feels like baby likes to keep his/her feet wedged under my rib cage

Glad you've been in to the school to have a chat with them MoN. Hopefully they will take it all more seriously now and will do something to stop these bullies.

Clapham I am glad your ex FIL said to go for it. I am not surprised that his text made you emotional, it sounds like you two were very close.

Thanks Clapham. It is reassuring to know that he didn't say don't do it as so many of us already have! I I will definitely read up on the bcg jab if it is offered.

Good luck with deciding what to do bluesnowfalcon. Good that they will do a scan and early sweeps.

Clapham my husband is the same way. I don't don't know what his BP is but he has a strong history of hypertension on both sides and at 29 he's gained weight earlier than his older relatives did. What's annoying is we know that when he's gone through phases of exercising and eating better he loses weight quickly, stops snoring, stops needing rennies all the time, and feels so much better. I've tried to use the baby to make him try to change but I really think it needs to come from him.

I think there are a couple of people with BP problems today, so sorry I don't remember your names but best of luck to all of you. I hope the next readings are better.

www.nct.org.uk/pregnancy/understanding-your-pregnancy-medical-notes
Turns out it depends which way your midwife wants to record it, so you have to ask whether 4/5 is 4/5 palpable or 4/5 engaged (despite it being recorded under the heading, engaged, in my notes).

pseudo I do exactly the same.... Usually end up waddling to the loo!

shire I think morello is right. 4/5 means 1/5 is in your pelvis. I only googled though :-)

Took dd kickboxing and now and again they get parents to join in. Only by holding the pad and getting the kids to do a sequence of moves. Oof my bump aches now...!!

Anyone else think turning over at night has become like a military operation? I feel like I do it in about 3 stages stages... And whilst I'm tuning my hips back and bump all ache...

My notes said "at brim" at my 31 weeks appt (although I was 31+5)

Same here ana and Clapham with dp's lifestyle.

He exercises we used to run together every day I was at home (although I'm much faster than he is ) so I know it isn't this.

I'm convinced his drinking habits don't help. And lots of snoring especially after a bottle of wine and he must go through at least a pack of rennie a week.

It worries me as his dads side all have high bp with history of strokes and heart attacks, and on dp's mums side everyone has had cancer, his mum has had breast cancer twice, uncle just got over bowel cancer, other uncle had prostate cancer and aunty and gran both died of bowel cancer. It bugs me that he doesn't help himself by drinking too much and eating huge portion sizes!

But what can you do, when I ask him to cut back his thinks I'm nagging!

Sorry for a really depressing post..

ana the previous 2 years bullying was happening at primary school. She just started high school 4 wks ago where it has continued. The primary school, though good academically is notoriously bad at dealing with bullying. The member of staff I spoke to today at the high school seemed very concerned and said she would speak to all those involved today. Although Shannah had mentioned to her she was being picked on they, like me had no idea how serious it was and how much it was upsetting her.

ana LOL, is it not funny that they are both with women like us? You - a dietitian and me - planning to become a dietitian. The irony of life! He keeps joking that I will have to hide him when I start practicing as the sight of him would just ruin my credibility forever!

Yes Hayle I have a little rest on my back in between sides to recover from the clicking and the pain and move the cushion over!

Agree also on leaving it a bit long for the toilet. I doesn't feel too bad sitting/laying down and is such an effort, then I finally get up and the weight of the baby flops onto my bladder and I am suddenly desperate but always stiff after sitting/laying so hobble to the loo hunched over and holding my bump up with my hand, maybe one hand on my back. Then I get really angry if DH is in there and I have to wait!

I must look ridiculous most of the time.

Welcome morello. I bought some morello cherry squash today, tastes like grown up cherryade which I was only ever allowed at birthday parties. Yum.

flyer my DP just gets annoyed when I say anything and responds saying that he wants to enjoy his life. I then ask him how he will enjoy his life with diabetes II in a few years or half paralised after a stroke, he then gets even more annoyed, I come up with more arguments... and we have the same argument over and over again... so a similarly depressing post from me but it does bother me a lot...

Sounds so similar Clapham. I've not used the half paralysed line though, might have to throw that in next time.

We were talking yesterday as we were given something at Nct about what we'd have to give up when baby arrives. He said he would give up drinking we will see!

He is no alcoholic btw but we are talking a bottle if wine 4 times a week which in my eyes is way too much.

Clapham and Flyer it's so hard to see someone you love not take care of themselves. It hurts me when I hear his family make comments to him about his weight. My DH has a new job for company that sells wine and I'm the only one who isn't delighted about his discount because I've only in the last year been able to cut back on our weekday alcohol intake. People act like I should be able to just force him to change but that's not the way it works and I know that constantly making it an issue will only makes him feel worse.

Hi ladies I know my posts have been short and a bit me me me of late. I'm sorry but I need some reassurance miss willow has turned transverse again :( .y scan is tomorrow when I'm 36+2. I think they will look to book me for cs. I can't have ecv because of my placenta being anterior not that I would of anyhow. Someone please tell me how fine and not scary cs are....

Falcon I'm in a very similar position - MiniJethro is breech with extended arms/legs. I'm 36 wks today. Have been given a date for a section but after refusing an ECV 2 weeks ago I'm starting to think maybe I should do it. So confused.
(I know I don't post v much but I lurk a lot!)

Oh falcon hope she turns. Have they said no to ecv with anterior placenta? It's just a lady at my Nct has an anterior placenta and is having a ecv this Thursday at 37 weeks.

MoN that's terrible About your oldest dd :-0 I hope she gets all of the support she needs to help resolve if all. And don't forget to take care of yourself in all of this xx

clapham I too am selfishly glad that u consulted your exfil for advice as I booked my vaccine this morning for Friday ill be 34+4 when I have the vaccine. X

Glad u managed to discuss your options with the midwife blue

Welcome back roxvox glad u met your new midwife and had a lovely holiday xx

Hope your bp settles down tarlia and pseudo x

Purchased some teeny weeny nappies today :-) and some maternity pads.... Which are probly bigger than the nappies lol I really need to get a hospital bag together!!!

Sorry falcon I cross posted with u. Sorry it wasn't the news u would have hoped for xxx is there a risk of placental abruption with an ecv?