October 2013 - Are we neary *there* yet?!

[MrsHoratioNelson]

Welcome, welcome, sit down, put your feet up.

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Fingers crossed about the discharge MoN.
Also, if you feel the school counselling is insufficient, I know in England you can approach your borough's Child and Young Person Mental Health Team (or get a GP referral) for help with self harming. I don't know if Scotland is the same, but the reports I have had from parents and referred children say the services are excellent.

Off to the midwife for 34wk appointment. First time I've been seen in weeks!

Oh dear MON that sounds tough on your eldest DD and you! Not what u need with worries over this pg as well, keep pushing the school for answers and would speaking to gp or health visitor help?

Clapham if you have a good relationship with you exfil I'd text him (as I'm also dithering over it, I'd love to know what he thinks!)

MoN at those boys that's horrible what a bunch of little shits.

Your poor girl self harming, why do children do this to other children and it effects them psychologically for years even after they stop. I hope and pray they get expelled and your daughter gets the help she needs.
It's so sad to hear such stories.

Jelly Nuts and Zoo, haha made me chuckle.

Umlauf meant to say those boots from asos are a necessity they are lush, I've a pair similar but they have tassels/fringe thing on the side I want those too. They are practical as not too high, a must in my opinion I'd use that excuse to justify buying them.

Clapham I also think if you have a decent relationship with your FIL go ahead and text I'm sure he'd be only too happy to offer his advice.

MoN as my mum say it never rains but it pours. I hope your DD gets some help quickly, the services available are great but getting access, if going through healthboard, is a nightmare. Hope she can open up to councillor.

I am now coming out in sympathy and passing lots of mucus, sorry for TMI. No blood or pink tinge but bad back ache, cramps and braxton hicks. And to make matters worse its pouring and I need to walk to school to get DD with a grumpy 2 yr old in tow

mon sorry about your dd. thats such a tough and vulnerable time for any child. just make sure she knows you're there even with new babt coming, which im sure she does.
ive just put all the necessary stuff into my new changing bag, im so so excited for baby to arrive now, can't believe I'll have someone who will fit in those tiny nappies!!!

I just googled Shire and referral has to be by A&E department or community mental health. My partner works for the Scottish Association for Mental Health as a support worker so he is going to investigate our options.

Afternoon everyone! I have been a partial stalker on here for the last few weeks as I have been on holiday. I have generally managed to keep up to date with the thread I think by reading the last page or 2 of posts every evening, but just haven't had any chance to comment!

I knew that I should have made a list of things to comment on so I could now write a hugely long post mentioning everything that has been going on on here for the last 2 weeks, because now I am able to write a reply it has all escaped me.

Had a lovely holiday, and met the midwife that I will be having in Cornwall for the birth (I live in Gloucestershire, but am intending to give birth in Cornwall where DH and I are from, and where our parents will be for support after the birth etc). She was lovely. Bump is measuring a bit small, but I have another appointment with my midwife up here on Wednesday and so I am hoping I will be a bit more on track.

Whilst in Cornwall I saw loads of old friends etc as I was out and about, and everyone commented on how small my bump is considering how I only have a few weeks to go (4 weeks on Wednesday). I will put another bump photo on Facebook at some point.

We bought a new family car yesterday, which is exciting (I love cars) and also means I will have IsoFix

Also yesterday we had a 'Mums and partners' antenatal class. I learnt absolutely nothing, but DH appeared to learn quite a lot! I am sure it is all stuff that I have told him before, but perhaps it all sunk in a bit more when being told by a professional!

And finally I have 4 more days of work (finish on Thursday), and I can't bloody wait to relax and forget about work.

Sorry for the me me me post, but my memory is like a sieve and I cannot remember what has been discussed over the past few weeks.

Clapham I would say text your ex FIL. I have had the jab (had no side affects at all), so I am selfishly hopeful that he will tell you to go for it in his reply.

Sorry to hear about your DD MoN. I was fortunate enough to never have a run in with bullies at school, so can't imagine how stressful it must be for her. I hope they get what they deserve.

Sorry to hear about your daughter MoN, I hope that now the school are on to it they are doing all they can to help.

Clapham I'd definitely ask him if you're on speaking terms. If he's an expert he'd probably love to share his knowledge.

I waited until literally the last minute to cancel, but something was niggling me. I'd usually have any jab offered as I'm not usually funny about it at all and I'll definitely be having all the jabs for the baby, but something just doesn't sit right with the WC vaccine. I'm trusting my instincts at the moment.

I'm a little concerned though as babies don't have the WC vaccine until 8 weeks and I know my mum will be around a lot and she works in a primary school, so will have a higher risk of exposure if any of the kids there get it. I'll have to ask her to be super vigilant.

I looked into it a bit more after lunch (I'm soooo busy at work obviously) and the latest figures said that the risk had dropped and that less than 2% of babies under 6 months caught it in quarter 3, that's a pretty small amount, but still you'd never forgive yourself if you were in that percentage.

I'll think about it some more and discuss with my midwife. I've never actually been offered it from any of the midwives I have seen, nor the flu jab, and when I asked if I should have it on my last appointment she seemed surprised I had asked and said 'you can get it if you want to', which I thought was an odd response.

It's hard to know what to do about it really.

MoN I'm so sorry to hear what your daughter and family are going through, how upsetting and stressful. I really hope you can access some decent support for her ASAP. Hope there is no more blood/mucus

Clapham I'd def ask FIL. That's interesting about the BCG, thanks for sharing. We've been trying to decide whether to give baby it or not as they are offering it here now. They make it sound so good in regards to allergy and asthma control/prevention but I wasn't sure I wanted baby to have two post birth injections. I won't do it now! Are you feeling less low this afternoon?

flyer 5 strokes? How scary! I hope your DP is trying to stay on top of his health and weight especially with his new impending responsibilities.

Welcome home, rox.

blues how did it go with the MW?

My bp is now up again, but not as bad as this morning. Lower number is high 90's to 100. I'll take it again later.

Pelvic floor ladies...

Welcome back roxvox glad to hear you had a good time away and got to meet your potential giving birth midwife

MoN Im so sorry to hear about your daughter but it is great that you have found out and that the school are being supportive. I really hope everything settles down for you soon, its been a bit of a mad yr for your family xx

Thankyou for the advice earlier orange midwife's advice was the same as yours stay away from anyone with rubella and discuss with dr after birth. I mentioned that no one had told me at previous practice and she said apparently I was immune in February but it has obviousky worn off since. I didnt even know that happened with the mmr but good to know I guess.

clapham Id also be interested to know what your ex FIL says and sounds like your still on good terms with them so wouldnt be odd to get in touch. I had mine a few weeks ago as the incidence of it in our area was relatively high so decided the risks were outweighed by the benefits but would still be interested to know.

I was just about to post about you roxvox, as I hadn't seen any recent posts from you. Glad all is well.

keep forgetting to wish you a Happy anniversary pink Glad youve treated yourself a bit. will keep my fingers crossed that your OH surprises you after work and hasnt forgotten after all xx

Glad BP down a bit tarlia although still odd its varyingbso much. is that something they're concerned about too? how is your Ds today?

p-buttons I didn't realise rubella wore off either! How very strange indeed. Maybe you should ask for a new blood test, as perhaps it got mixed up?
DS is still really puffed out if he runs from one end of the room and back, but in really good spirits. How's yours? Did the cold develop? I do hope our new bundles don't go through this too!

Yeah tarlia 5 strokes, 3 mini ones 2 proper strokes. So bizarre as dp's dad is so active, pre strokes used to play squash 3 times a week, cycle almost daily is vegetarian and doesn't smoke or drink. Genetics the DR's said.

DP took his bp earlier 144/100 so he is off to DR's tomorrow...it sends him a bit panicky when it goes high.

Clapham dd is 13

Its been a bit of a madhouse here today. DD1 has 3 friends over. Then my friend rang up in a panic and needs to take her mum to hospital - she has respiratory problems, so I have her 3 dc here. My brother is here with my nephew, and then my friend turned up with her 2 boys and a belated birthday present for me, so thats 15 dc!!!!

and I managed to feed everyone lunch! (even though my fridge decided to go wrong yesterday )

schools back on thursday here too.

Happy Anniversary Pink

Serious Yes mine is back to back! (and both my dd's were too)

Tarlia and Pseudo hope the BP calms down - how worrying x

Jelly had to laugh at your dh's choice of magazines

MoN - sorry about your poor dd but it does sound like the school will be helpful xx

Fingers crossed DPs BP is back down tonight. Must be such a worry.

caz wow 15 kids!? Mad house! You'll need to get those feet up later, you poor thing xx

Mon I think secondary schools are very good at dealing with these things.

It's not enough the school stop the bullying. They need to offer some kind of emotional support for her. Ask them to keep you updated. Things to find out are, have all her teachers been informed about the boys, have teachers been asked to seat them apart during each lesson. Ask dd if she is sat near them. How often will she see a councillor or pastoral support, for how long and when (ie what lessons might she miss).

Also I hate to say it as obviously as this. But depending on what kind of self harm it is, pls take measures now to minimise scaring.

GT I keep meaning to ask you - so do you still follow the no reading, tv and needlework? I'm assuming no computer and crochet in this case too? Will we hear from you to know baby is here and all is well or should we expect you to vanish?

badger yooouhooo? Are you around? Getting worried about you today.

Sorry didn't mean to worry anyone! I've been busy herding looking after DS and have been reading but not had time to post.
BP bottom number back in the 70s today so I'm happy, are you going to get checked out Tarlia?

I slept with my wrist splints on last night and carpal tunnel stayed away until just before I got up which was good. DS slept all night too, bonus!
Does anyone else wait too long to go for a wee and then can barely move? I really should learn eh?

MoN I hope your spotting settles, and that your poor dd gets some help at school :(

Blues DS was born by emcs after a horrendous induction at 38 weeks. He went to NICU and I was poorly and had a transfusion. I am so determined to avoid this again that I haven't even contemplated a VBAC. It's tough when every medic pushes for the VBAC. I hope you get a good outcome today.

Blues - they offer a service called 'birth stories' down here which is where a midwife talks you through your notes from your labour. I've heard that people find it useful.

pseudo - I do the wee thing at work and by the time I stand up, I can hardly walk!

The school were very shocked when I told them that she was self harming and the same boys had already been spoken to because they were bullying my neice so my sister came with me to let them know that it was still ongoing.
Dd had old me these boys were picking on her before but she never let on how upset she was. My neice who is in the sane year as dd had been saying things to my sister for a while though and the latest incident was a boy telling her to go and kill herself on a friends bbm.

The first time she self harmed was when I told her off for something and she disappeared to her room and my 10 yr old dd told me she was upstairs stabbing herself in the head with a fork She doesn't try to hide it so I think it really is a cry for attention. She doesn't like to actually come out and say how much the bullying is upsetting her so this is her way of letting us know.

Her father is bipolar and I really think he's passed this onto his children as my ds has days where he cries but when I ask what's wrong he says he doesn't know.
My other children who have different fathers have no such issues.

Back from mw - baby is 4/5 engaged. Erm, is that a bit much at 34 weeks?! No longer back to back, though
And yes to the wee waiting. Just can't be arsed to get out of bed, but soon regret it!
Glad you're back, Roxvox - hope the measurements work out ok. If I remember rightly, aren't you quite tall? Maybe baby is just hiding under your rib cage...

MoN so sorry about your dd and niece. You and your family are really due some good luck soon. That makes it a bit less worrying if you had spotting with your other babies but I am glad you have a midwife appointment to ask about it soon.

Tarlia and badger, BP seems to be up and down a lot. D they suggest you go in every time it is no or just if there is a sustained pattern? Glad it is down for now.

Pinkbuttons I agree with Tarlia that maybe there was a mix up at the lab if they said you were immune so recently. Staying away from ill people seems a sensible precaution regardless though.

I have nearly finished my cooking and but am hot, worn out and aching from standing too much so having a bit of a rest upstairs where it is cooler. Being pregnant makes my body feel ancient and useless.

Eek at being almost fully engaged shire. Does it feel different? I have read it can happen quite early with first babies and doesn't mean baby's arrival is imminent.