The PESH are getting busy and looking out for a cluster diff!!

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blonderthanred, boy, born 26th October 2012.
FriendofDorothy, boy, born 14th December 2012.
QueenRollo, boy, born 21st January 2013.

Need dates:

Rollerbaby, No pink here, expecting boy due March 20th 2012
IveBeenExpectingYou (CockDodger), A very active baby girl, due March 28th 2012
Silver, hoping for an easier sneeze, due mid-July 2012
Starryeyedmole, regretting recently investing in scales
cakeandcava approaching walrus proportions, DC1 EDD 21/10/12

LazyMachine (38) DC1 EDD 9/2/13
CamelKnees (34) fat and fatigued DC2 EDD 22/04/2013
HaveALittleFaith (31), Faithlet arrived 14.04.13
fertilityFTW (34) date needed.
pinkr, (33), any day now!!, DC1 due 22/08/2013
Jethro (36) head in the sand Edd 071013
Frankel (32) nauseous and knackered Edd 4/3/14
Noks - info needed
Sinky - info needed

Done my best - apologies for any misinformation or omissions!

Well done Faith, I have to admit that sleeping arrangements are something that I am struggling to get my head round. I know the advice is to have the baby in the room with you for the first six months, but equally several friends have worried me with tales of "they need to learn to sleep alone on their own room". It's left me very

Anyway, in good news I gave managed to drink my first cup of tea in months . For the first 7 weeks or so it was the only thing that helped my morning sickness, but all of a sudden at 8 weeks tea started making me throw up. I've not been able to drink/smell a cup since, but this morning I decided to make one to see what happened and hallelujah I've been able to drink it

Pah to those people who say 'your baby needs to sleep alone'. Current advice is to keep baby in the same room as you for at least 6 months.

Next time I intend to get one of those bed nests that attach to the bed so it makes it even easier.

Me too dor. Yes Faithlet was in our room til 1 week before she was 6 months when she suddenly started stirring every time we came to bed/rolled over/farted in bed. She outgrew her Moses basket though so was in her cot in our room (fortunately there was space). Yes they have to learn to sleep on their own (eventually) but you do what's right for you as a family - this applies to everything. Feeding, sleeping, weaning. I wasn't ready for Faithlet to be in her own room before 6 months and we have an Angelcare so I know she's ok overnight.

Isn't the idea that very young babies need to hear their parents breathing so they remember what to do while they're asleep? I'm not sure how convincing that theory is, but keeping them close sounds sensible in any case.

Hurrah sleep, faif! Hurrah tea, Frank!

Thanks for that ladies, it's what I thought but you know how people can make you doubt yourself! Does the same apply to naps, when you put them to bed in the evening etc? I'm just wondering how you get things done if baby is in the room at all times with you?

Well that depends on your baby Frank. In theory baby should snooze in the same room as you during the day. You have a Moses basket yes? So in theory you pop Franklet in there when s/he's asleep in the room with you. However, I could only ever get Faithlet to nap on me after feeding, in a swinging chair, in the sling in the car or pushchair (motion required!). She has only started napping in her cot in her room in the last week. The sling and swinging chair allowed me to get stuff done round the house but if she fell asleep in the car/pushchair she's generally wake when we came indoors again. I have to admit its bliss having her asleep in the cot!

Get things done?? Ha ha!
max was in our room for five months, we tried to move him, he was having none of it. Eventually about 9 months he accepted the cot in his room but we had to put him in it asleep and sneak off. At 12 months we started to be able to settle him in the cot. Now he mostly sleeps through. They learn when they are ready. Tiny babies often need their parents close by to feel safe. Until 14 months he had daytime naps downstairs in his pram. Did the same when he was tiny until we went to bed, or he slept cuddled on daddy in the evening quite often. Sling was handy for daytime naps and there were also quite a number of drive and park up naps.

Today has been a bad day. HWCA's mum called this morning - the fibroid she had removed a couple of weeks ago were cancerous :( They'll see her in a few days for, not sure. Tests to see if they got it all? They've referred her to the McMillan nurses already.

HWCA is naturally devastated. My body has helpfully reacted by giving me agonising stomach pain followed by a delightful bout of vomiting diarrhoea. Puking in the bath whilst on the loo is not fun.

Frank the best thing you can do is to follow your instincts (and best expert medical advice of course), and it applies to sleep and everything else. If you and baby are sleeping happily in the same room, do it for as long as you like. The only expert on your baby is you.

It winds me up that people feel they have to defend themselves if they do their own thing. I've done it myself when HV frowned at me for daring to admit that foxcub and I co-slept pretty much from day 1 (and still do if she's poorly). But I do it as safely as I can, and it works for us. In fact I would never have got any sleep in the early days if we hadn't co-slept.

In Japan we would be weird for not co-sleeping, as it is the norm (I am reliably informed).

Anyway, rant over...

Yay for scannage Winks!

I have recently got into the habit of nipping out for a bacon roll when I get to work. This will end in tears (in about 5months time when I step on the scales), but I cannot resist!

Oh Winks I'm so sorry. What and up and down week for you both. Fingers crossed it hasn't spread.

Oh i am sorry to hear that winks how horrid. Hoping that there is good news soon from her doctors and she makes a full recovery.

Yes gin and they have one of the lowest incidences of SIDS in the world in Japan.

Oh winks that's awful. I would think they'll want to biopsy around the fibroids to check they've got it all, yes. Hopefully it's isolated but I guess they might suggest chemo/radiotherapy to prevent it spreading (that was what they suggested for my Mum with ovarian cancer).

Winks I'm sorry to hear about your MIL , hopefully she'll get better news on the tests soon.

Thanks for the advice hags, it just goes to show how little I know - probably not a good thing! Of course my "get things done" comment was probably rather naive and the extent if what I should expect to be able to do should probably stretch no further than go to the loo/make a cup of tea

Sorry to hear that, winks :( Hopefully the doctors will find that they resected it all when they got the fibroids, and there's no metastases.

I suspect it depends on the baybee, Frank. I, for instance, slept through almost from the first moment and was generally fairly easy. HOTB apparently screamed non-stop day and night unless the hoover was on, or MIL gave him to someone else to cuddle I'm very much hoping ours takes after me in that regard...

Hope MIL gets the reassurance you're all hoping for Winks

Draf, I was also a dream baby apparently, but my brother was a nightmare. My MIL adores her boys, so apparently they were the best babies ever, but not sure her recollection can be trusted!

Winks sorry about your MiL. What Sinks said about reassurance from doctors.

MiniJeff sleeps in his pram in the day. Sometimes I leave the pram in the hall whilst I do jobs. I can hear him & I don't think you can be next to your baby all the time. We've just started trying to introduce a bedtime routine - bath, bottle in the dark, Moses basket in our bedroom at about 7ish. There's been a lot of going up & down stairs but he settles eventually. He's definitely not a Velcro baby (I've tried getting him to sleep on me but he just wriggles!) but does settle better after some rocking in my arms.

The Little Mister hardly ever has his daytime naps in his cot. He will sleep in the car, buggy or floor if necessary. Quite often, if he was being a Proper Little Shit we would drive until he fell asleep and I would take coffee and a book with me. Or just have a powernap in the car. Bliss!

We also co-slept a fair bit too but made sure we did it safely.

Hey all! winks sorry to heart your bad news but congratulations on the scan.
Wee pink will only nap on me during the day unless we're on the move. Same as faith if she's in the pram or car seat she'll wake as soon as we get in the house...however when we arrived at a baby class the other day she stayed asleep for nearly two hours in the seat,

Evening everyone. How are you all doing?

frank some babies are good at sleeping and letting their parents get on with it. My older nephew and my friends' gorgeous twins spring to mind - the twins in particular napped in moses baskets in the living room no matter what was going on. (Friends suspect they were forced into a routine because of the time spent in the SCBU when they were born.) Any more funny turns?

MIL will probably be getting a hysterectomy this week, depending probably on her warfarin. It is likely to be in a central London hospital, and she will be in for a while, which adds an extra layer of hassle with FIL and his dementia. He is struggling already.

I'm good thanks Winks, no more wobbles Hope all goes well for MIL.

Fingers crossed for MIL (and FIL), winks.

On a decidedly more mundane/unimportant note - my boobs are massive, and my bras are starting to be obviously not fitting properly. Do you reckon they'll keep on growing for ages, or am I safe getting a nice replacement now? I don't want to have to get sensible boring bras this early really, but if boobs growth often plateaus at eight weeks then I will... I don't want to spend £££ on a nice one, only to grow out of it in another month... Arrrrgh. Cheap and nasty bras, here I come :(

draf I went up 2 cup sizes by 11 weeks and never grew any more, even when my milk came in. If you want a short term bra solution though, I recommend these beauties from asda. Varieties of colour, padding removable ANC they are quite comfy. Only 6 quid each too.

Draf. I think growth in first trimester is really common. I went from a c/d to an e within a week or two. Things have calmed down - have been wearing the same size now since about week 10/11, but I have to admit that it is more difficult to get a comfy bra these days.

I have a hot milk soft cup (no wire) which is ok, but rubs on the underband if I wear it too long, I have a non matty but actually attractive bra which I wear on nights out, which causes similar problems.

My best bras at the moment? M&s value t shirt bras. Not matty, £12 for 2, black and nude. Wear all day no probs.

I was toying with buying something nicer in town yesterday (they are plain plain plain), but I just don't think you can predict what your boobs will do.

So, yes, cheap and nasty bras are the way forward!

(I was looking at my naice bra collection yesterday- by chance. I love nice bras. My collection of coco de mer and AP are sadly gathering dust now. Sob)

Draf I went along to M&S to get remeasured at about 8 weeks - I had gone up a back and a cup size. The lady told me not to bother with maternity/nursing bras as they were about £30 a pair, but told me to get ordinary non-wired t-shirt bras instead - they were £15 a pair! They're not the most flattering things I agree, but god they're comfy!

Great minds/boobs faife!

While we're talking boobs...

My nipples are so sore now it's cold. Getting out of bed, out the shower, walking in wind... It's agonising. I'm layering, already have t-shirt style padding on bras (I'm pushing an e cup at the mo, I CAN'T pad more!), I have thermal vests (and then melt when inside).

I had a hand warmer pad down my bra last night

Help! Any magic solutions! How the feck will I cope with bfing!