Due in July 2013 - newborns to the left of me, big bumps to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you babe!

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Poco-echo what everyone else says & my elcs was really positive & over quickly which was good, tho I understand it's hard when things aren't what you hoped. Also for few days before & since I have been so hormonal & the slightest thing sets me off. Went to bf group & turned out. It wasn't on for summer so thats helpful!

My dad drove me & carried F in bless him but then he saw me in floods of tears again. Was already annoyed as he said when he arrived, that when they came to visit DS as a baby my mum remembers giving him a bottle so maybe F isn't getting enough milk from me, grrr. I explained that was right but only because I had to express for ds & that really wouldnt help matters now. They're quite sensitive so it's hard to say such comments are really not helpful but I'm worried I might explode soon - guess I just need to tell them that everything with babies can't just be fixed, and breathe!

Dinky, hope the cold gets better soon, must be awful at this time-are you able to eat helpful getting better foods? I've been avoiding citrus, veg soup & anything spicy/ interesting as dont want further bf problems. Been eating a lot of nice bread with real butter, mmmm & cheese.

Hope baby moves for you twirled. I'm crossing fingers that F has put on a little weight when cmw arrives this avo-willing all poo to stay in her til after weigh in!

Twirlie - look at spinning babies.com - optimal foetal position and sitting with hips higher than knees will help shift bubs round.

on phone as always so sorry for what I miss.
evelyn I'm sorry it was shut. but if it's any help there are a lot of mums on this thread and it sounds like most of us have australian babies with suction issues so don't feel alone. get any.midwife support you can..also have you seen if there is an nct or la leche group. block out unhelpful advice...my parents latest suggestion was putting jam on my nipples!!

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poco - don't feel like a failure! You really aren't and the way a baby arrives in this world - 'natural', induced, forceps, caesarian, doesn't matter at all.

MummyK - good luck with MIL!

twirlie - I hope your baby turns for you.

Poco you are not a failure!!! You must be exhausted and anxious right now but hopefully you will be able to look back and realise that how your baby gets here is only a very small part of the picture and one you have no control over. the fact that they and you get through it all safely is really the most/only important thing. Huge hugs x

Mammy k well done on all that pumping and here's hoping Alice 'wakes up' a bit to feeding soon.

Dinky, I bet you idn't look any bigger than her by the tie she was full term - she went into hiding nearly 6 weeks ago don't forget!

Twirlie good luck getting baby to turn!

Evelyn so sorry they were shut - that's crap! Whereabouts in the country are you? I can highly recommend a clinic in Oxford that I used to drive 40 mins to reach when I had feeding issues with dc1 as they were so good.

X-posted Evelyn - sorry bf group was shut. I think quite a few tend to close for school holidays. Have you found out if there are peer supporters in your area? They normally come out to help and sit with you, can suggest holds etc. Otherwise try doulauk.org and look for post natal Doulas with bf specialisation and they should be able to help too.

Thanks all-cmw was vg actually-we're in NI & it's a bit backward here so shouldn't be surprised really. Come to the conclusion that she is wriggling to get poo out usually when she's fussy so it's all reassuring

Cheek-thanks for that gem of wisdom from your folks, really made me lol tho I can imagine that's frustrating to hear!

Also we've put 1oz on since Sunday so on a high again. Off for a nap now if madam permits it.....

Had the worst night ever last night. It was so hot and airless L wouldn't stop feeding from early evening but kept throwing it all up again, then woke from 1am till 4 again just constantly on the boob, which were really hurting by this point, then DD came in my bed as the raging storm was scaring her. I was so tired and hot and uncomfortable then at 4.30am I was winding him and I must have past out because the next thing I knew there was a thud and a scream and I realised I'd dropped him head first onto the floor! Fuck! Thankfully he seemed ok as he fed well straight away, but I spent the rest of the night sobbing into my pillow

Poco, just echoing what the others have said. You've grown a little perfect person, you're amazing, and however they get to be born is really insignificant once they're here safely.

Evelyn, glad things are more positive today.

Twirlie good luck in getting your babe to twirl! L was OP but turned once I'd gone into labour .

Hope those of you with inductions / cs today (sorry on phone and forgotten who) are getting new born cuddles very soon.

I see the Mail have got in there with the "use Mumsnet to find other babies born in July 2013" angle (see Media requests). Sadly(!) they only want other Lindo Wing mothers, not plebs.

Oh Sunday sounds like a total shocker. Sending you hugs and virtual chocolate. Hope tonight is a much, much better night for all of you.

Cheek - love the idea of jam on your boobs especially as I think you were the one who suggested the jammy dodger icons were boobs :-)

PS I actually made strawberry jam yesterday with some of our glut of strawberries - pretty good but don't think I'll be putting any on my nips:-)

dinky - where do you find the time/energy to garden, cook, look after all your children, act as parenting guru to the rest of us & have such an interesting life? I feel so inadequate.

Sunday - your night sounds horrible! Mine was similar, but by some miracle I managed not to drop N on the floor (let's just forget that I threw her away from me when a ginormospider ran over her while I was BF her a few days ago). I hope tonight is better. Babies are more robust than they look and can cope with being accidentally dropped a few times.

I think the clue might be in the lovely nanny she has mentioned a few times, Totally! (That's what I'm telling myself, anyway)

DS dropped B a couple of days ago - I really stupidly left her on the sofa for a minute while I ran to the kitchen - he tried to pick her up then there was a thud and screaming. She seems OK for it... He also slapped her twice today which is the first time he has really shown any jealousy directed at her.

Totally - its a case of fruit, sugar and pectin in a bread maker - sounds impressive but isn't really :-) cheating is the way forward.

Yes would also love to know Dinky's secret!!

Sunday & vinegar, that's awful-I constantly feel like I'm inadequate & going wrong but ultimately just getting through the first 2 weeks, (then 4, then 6), is the only thing I think we should aim for now. And having had an hours nap this avo, I can vouch for the wonders of a little extra sleep.

Dinky-I concur that you seem to be superhuman with all your activities!

My latest is that I think I have nipple thrush-cmw checked baby for thrush today & said there was none but now I'm really sore like razors when latching & on my left nipple it feels like burning after feeding. Can a doc tell by looking at nipplesvif you have it? My boobs have been super hot so probavly not helping things. Looks like I'm possibly in for a trip to docs tomorrow :(

Hope everyone has better nights tonight...

Evening ladies, I think I may be overtired tonight, hopefully meaning I'll sleep well! General feeling of uncomfortable-ness, rock hard bump, heavy pelvis & frequent lightening crotch at the moment all making me feel pretty miserable! Had MW appointment this morning, I refused a sweep which tbh I felt like I was railroaded into refusing as MW was saying everything to discourage, now won't get one till 40+10, my induction has been booked in for next Thursday (1st Aug) at 40+12 & I have spent all day moping & crying because of this, to make myself feel a bit better I've booked reflexology in for tomorrow, after runs recommendation on our FB group, I know it's worked for some of you ladies. Hoping something spontaneously starts however tonight as lost a teeny snotty bit of my plug earlier but had nothing else since.

Twirlie good luck for your induction tomorrow, I hope all goes well & you're having newborn snuggles soon!
MrsD good luck for your csec, again hoping all goes well & you're having newborns snuggles soon!

MummyK good to hear you're starting to feel more like yourself again, no advice but hope BF problems work out soon for you! Living in pyjamas is perfectly acceptable in my books but good luck for your first outing tomorrow!

Poco you have to do what you need to do in order to get your baby out, it doesn't matter what method that is as long as you're both healthy!

Cheek at your parents "jam on nipples" suggestion!

Oh Sunday, I hope you & L are okay, don't beat yourself up over it, accidents happen & babies really are resilient little things! Sending massive hugs though as I can imagine how you'd feel!

Agree with Totally there dinky I see you as my MN mum!

Hopefully will be able to get to sleep however only position I'm comfortable in right now is bent over on all fours resting with my bum in the air on my elbows, doubt I'll get any sleep like this!

Evelyn- I think I have thrush too. J had oral thrush, and I've been sore since. Same as you described. I'm putting the same miconazole gel (daktarin) as for his mouth on me.

J is having a feed feed feed night. I am getting tired and grumpy, and really need some of those baby emery boards because I am seriously sick of him scratching me.

And, holy crap, the rain just arrived!

Sorry to the two of you who think you have nipple thrush - evelyn and abz i think?!

I too would love to know dinkys secret!! You superwoman you you are really fab and a complete life saver on here with your wisdom - as a lot of you are!

Took a trip up to triage today to get monitored as i hadn't been paying attention all day and then when I started baby seemed wayyy too quiet, she was okay in the end and did kick a bit with the moniter on but nothing drastic, she said everything is absolutely fine but make sure i come back if low movements again even if its tomorrow!

Thinking like Phie i might book some reflexology, if nothing else it might help my hippopotofeet! Trying to sleep at the moment but woke up with the back of my throat burning where there was obviously bile in it Sorry for TMI and it took quite a while to get rid of, in fact its just about gone now, but i had to have water to get it down so now need to wait for water to go down so as not to just make a cycle!

Hope everyone is well!

40+4

Hello all. Sleep is totally evading me tonight. I'm also worried about movement, not that he's not moving, it's just different somehow. Off for monitoring in the morning I think.

Phie - sounds promising?!!

Sorry to those experiencing thrush and other feeding issues. Hopefully the dr can help.

I want some of dinky's jam! That would go down a treat right now with some scones and cream

Good morning!

My top tip for the day - if you're using your phone to entertain you whilst BF during the night, don't hold it directly over your baby's head in case you nod off and drop the phone. I dropped my phone onto N's face three times last night (she's fine)

Pocopearl how are things with you now? To re-literate what others have said, you are absolutely not a failure. Your docs decided that induction was required... it doesn't always work, and the fact the it didn't for you means that you just weren't ready for labour, not because your wonderful body, which worked a miracle and grew a baby, failed you at all. It is trying to do what it thinks is right - keeping your baby in . More later from me...

totally oh that did make me laugh! Top tip!

Had a dream i came on here and Phie had her baby and it was just me left for my due date, was very My poor pregnancy brain just likes to wind me up!

Is it just me probably is but now im past my due date, i just dont seem to be as pro active at getting baby out?! I am trying things, like sitting in a storm yesterday, but im not as bothered? Just me?

40+4 - not long now!