July 2013 - thread 7 - and we're still talking as we enter the 3rd trimester

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We've managed to fill yet another thread, so here is a new one to keep chatting away on...

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Dinky I staved off talking to PALS after they promised me actually seeing the consultant for once today...however, as she still won't make a damn decision, I may reconsider!!

They seem to be of the opinion if I need a caesarean 'I will get one', i.e. they can't be bothered to plan it, and will go with an EMCS. However, don't want to waitg the 3 days + in labour some friends have had to wait...they have a bad reputation for doing that.....and also for bodging EMCS....

Time to get on the blower to PALS BadmissM!

badmiss I agree you need to get on to PALS, to get someone to advocate for you especially if you're not getting full explanations for the decisions that they are taking. I'm in a bit of a similar situation, in that I don't know if I'll have a section again yet or not, but the decision really depends on whether the pre-eclapsia develops again or not and whether I labour naturally at any point when considered full term, so I don't really have a birth plan either with the exception that we have agreed I won't be induced.
However I also am in agreement with this and know that they will book me in for a section if I request one and my consultant says that she can do this with as little as a weeks notice.
You're situation is just rubbish as they actually sound like they don't have a clue and aren't keeping you fully informed of their thought process or reasons behind their treatment plan. I'm surprised if they have now put you on to insulin, that a section isn't being mooted as I thought they aimed to deliver around 38weeks then or that's what I've been led to believe if my GD gets to that point.
Hope you get some proper answers or explain action soon.
shiv no need to feel you should stop posting if you don't want to, we are still all here to support you as much as you need, even if we don't always have the answers.

Ahbadmiss its awful when you can't all your trust into the people who should be caring for you during such an important time.
That's why we've switched hospitals but I am still yet to see a consultant who actually has my notes from ds1's arrival. Still no decision here either about whether to vbac or elcs though everything I know so far seems to point to the latter

Things seem to have changed here with bump. She has definitely dropped and my tummy is so soft on top now at 32+4 (I think)
I've felt sick for about two days having not done since the very early days and I've self prescribed iron tablets as feel dizzy so much. Loads of pressure down there and some brutal kicks which I actually don't mind.
Totally odd things for me now are:
Eating ice pops by the dozen every day, smelling wet towels , chewing face cloths , and yesterday I actually bleached our kitchen bin out! This is not normal in my house

Anyone else.......??

SilverBirdie, just delurking to say I'm also crunching my way through ice (my favourite is crushed ice in giant bags from Sainsbury's), also smelling wet towels, and while I'm typing I'm chewing away on a damp flannel! I haven't yet bleached the kitchen bin, but given the state of it I hope that's my next craving!

I think I want dinky to be my midwife/doula!

Cheekbyjowl, I will hold you to that! I have 30 working days to go. Bit early to start a countdown but I'm desperate!

And shiv, most definitely keep posting!

china a pint of ice cubes is my bath time treat but I have to be careful as last time i had such cravings I cracked a tooth!

Shiv I echo everyone else, though entirely understand if it feels like you have too many threads to update. You are always in our thoughts. Thanks to Totally for sending the thread link through so we can keep up to date.

IcingTheCake I had a similar pain getting out of bed everyday for a few weeks. Went quickly though and it seems to have gone now but probably still worth you mentioning it too your midwife.

Thanks Dinky. Midwife was great and my Spotty DS is now back home and I'm still okay for my scan tomorrow!

Mammykanny I didn't pack my bag, start my birth prefences plan or do anything of those sorts of things until 36 weeks, and didn't start my mat leave for DS until 38 weeks, so it sounds like you're pretty organised to me as at least you're thinking about it

cheek I agree with Icing, I really admire you for working till 40wks. I can't wait to finish at the end of May when I'll be 36 wks

BadMiss I hope PALS can help, your Trust continues to astound me with their attitude! Let us know how you get on.

33+2

DH just asked me how many days left at work...13, eek!! (Finish at 36+1 but have holiday before then.)

Mummykanny I had my whooping cough jab yesterday and definitely no loss of movement, baby has been very active since!

Saw midwife today, measuring on 50th centile, happy about that.

Seeing 2 more nurseries on Friday (visited 1 back in Feb) and hope to be able to make a decision then.

And DH has tomorrow off for the delivery of our new sofa and armchair...comfort awaits, hooray.

31+6

China and Sliver now I want ice pops , though not sure I'll join you on the flannel chewing. Wouldn't mind a strong desire to bleach the bin either though.

icing if I walk fast I get a stitch like pain in the bottom right of my stomach. It soon goes. Is that the.same? I just assumed it was a stitch

Hello ladies, neglected the thread the last few days, sorry!

Shiv echoing everyone else that you are still one of us! Oliver just got a bit to eager to meet his mummy & daddy, you're still in my thoughts daily & OH is always asking about "the teeny baby from your website thing" I'm giving him updates as soon as you post them.

I'm a hormonal wreck tonight, I fly back home tomorrow morning, & I cannot stop crying my eyes out, I don't want to come home! I think it's more the reality that I have to go back to work, I know I have too but I hate the place & 5 weeks till I finish for mat leave seems like forever away! I am a complete emotional wreck!

Hope everyone is well! 30+4

I'm into single figures on my maternity leave countdown now! 9 days, woo hoo. I finish at the end of the month, at 36 weeks, but with only working 4 days and the extra bank holiday it's coming around very fast!

Got a new bike today, as my old one died a rather dramatic death narrowly avoiding sending me flying into the canal . It's really lovely, and I took the opportunity to get a seat for the back at the same time. DS is currently in a front mounted seat but it's a step through frame so I can have one on the front and one on the back when this little one is old enough. I'm almost looking forward to going to work tomorrow as I get to ride it

Ah Phie, sending you hugs. You've just got end of holiday blues. Only 5 more weeks of work will fly by, I promise.

So pleased DS is home Marie and all OK with you re scan - hope he isn't suffering too badly. Oatmeal baths and virasoothe gel seemed to help my two through the dreaded pox.

China - please do stay now you've delurked. Will even throw in a bag of crushed ice to entice you to stay....

Silver birdie - sounds like you had those cravings last time round. I changed hospitals for ds2's birth and they never got ds1s birth notes from the first hospital! They still think bean is dc2 not 3 and I have to correct them each time. If midwives have access to the notes can you speak to supervisor of midwives re what a vbac might entail and what they know from your notes to get some information on options? I know what you mean re bump changing shape - mine has suddenly rounded out but definitely not dropped yet.

MrsMillions - good luck with nursery trips and hope you enjoy your new furniture.

Icing - I think those kinds of aches are common as the bump gets bigger, but any pain or concerns speak to your midwife.

Jealous of everyone's mat leave countdowns! I only have 16 more days to work over the next 5 (& a bit) weeks, so not too bad, but I'd love to be in single figures.
Got a busy couple of weeks coming up too - off for a weekend away to see some of my girlfriends this weekend & moving house in 2 weeks. We've not made any preparations for the move. I think DH & I are in denial & just think the moving fairies are going to come and do everything. I'll have to sort out registering with a new GP as soon as we move too.

Enjoy riding your new bike, Vinegar.
Hope everyone else is enjoying their ice.
I didn't get the whole nesting/urge to clean everything with DD, so wondering if it'll happen this time as it totally goes against my normal hatred of housework.

Morning ladies, had my 31 week appointment yesterday. Surprisingly measuring a few days over 31 weeks but MW said its nothing to worry about. I had a 25 minute search for the heartbeat. I think my LO hates the doppler as she was kicking and punching and rolling. My stomach was going wild! MW even put in the notes that baby was too active but we heard it in the end. Its so weird to see your tummy bend and flex and jiggle.

aww poor PhieEl06 your holiday must have been lovely.

MrsMillions and TotallyEggFlipped let the countdown behind I am on leave starting 31st of May... I can't wait!

totally i dont think i could manage moving house right now well done you!

photographer thats so sweet, best reason to not hear it has got to be an over active baby though

Baby finally moved head down last night after being diagonal for ages (just my guesses from shape of tummy and kicking) and i woke up this morning and she did the biggest move, i was wondering what was going on and im pretty sure shes bottom down now i know theres loads of time but it would be lovely if shed stay head down!

30+5

Another ice - craver here. I seem to have a bit if a reversion back to first trimester at the mo with v early morning nausea and not feeling like eating proper food in the evening. Most nights this week I've had cereal, toast, fruit and yoghurt for dinner or just one of those of feeling particularly fussy. And tons and tons of cold icy drinks and ice lollies. Mmmm!

Hope you feel more upbeat soon Phie. Sounds like the good old post hol blues coupled with wanting to finish work. It's difficult when the end is in sight but feels so far away. It will fly by though.

Hope the house move goes well totally. Will be worth it to get it ask sorted before baby arrives!

I'm beginning to really hate maternity clothes or more particularly trying to buy any, I really want a cropped pair of trousers, and I brought a pair in asda yesterday in the same size as the jeans I had one and I can barely get them up around my legs, they look ridiculous and are so uncomfortable, why can't clothes just be the same size wherever you buy them, they are also a size up from the size I was wearing pre-pregnancy, and I know the thighs and bum are rivalling my tum in the size stakes, but still........ Sadly I do have the same problem when not pregnant, but the lack of choice and hormones are making this seem so much worse, can't even console myself with a piece of cake as blood sugars were high again this morning, so I need to be extra controlled or I'll be heading on to meds, today pregnancy sucks!
Right rant over things could be worse at least I am pregnant and still cooking, despite many expectations.

Enjoy your new bike Vinegar!

Totally - I totally recommend getting some one in to help you pack! We did it when we moved out of our place to do building works - and with 2 small kids on the scene and a busy professional life it was a life saver. Call around to find quotes - it was surprisingly inexpensive for all the work they took off my hands!

NPK - maternity wear is so hit and miss isnt it? Return the trousers to Asda and treat yourself to something nice for you - do your nails or get a pedicure done if that's what you like, run a nice long bath and read a magazine if you'd prefer that and pat yourself on your back (if you can reach ) for doing such a good job in growing your baby.

BB - I'm with you in not being hungry in the evenings. Am trying to make sure I eat all my key calories/nutrients during the day as in the evenings I simply cant be bothered to cook - and as DH is working insane hours at the moment, there seems even less point in cooking just for me so am forcing myself to have some pitta bread and dip or yoghurt and fruit before bed.

oh just a side note. For those that have been to Ante-natal classes have you heard the story of the woman that gave birth in a tree? My hynobirthing said it was in Asia, then NCT said Africa and today online I read South America lol

If you don't know the story it was about the whole fight or flight, that a woman was in labour but there was a flood and her body naturally switched off labour and she climbed a tree to safety then later had the baby in a tree.

In some tribes in Africa, they use the baobab tree for births - that may be what the nct lady was thinking of.

Welcome sarah

shiv don't you go and leave us. I am part of a mums due June 06 group on another forum and there were babies on there born anytime between March and July.

Phie and thinking sending you both a hug

dinky the daft registrar always assumes Severus is DC2 because he thinks counting the children I take to the hospital with me is a better method than actually reading my notes

re hospital bags I normally do this at the last minute but I've been panicked into doing it earlier this time because if my waters break I have to call an ambulance and go straight in. Still not finished though.

re birth plan still not done that yet

re maternity clothes not sure if it's just my enourmous bump but I'm really struggling. I end up wearing leggings and stretchy dresses. They look alright now but I'm going to look a right state when my bump transforms into a jelly belly. I hate buying new clothes that I hate and only going to wear a few months but also hate the constant no clean clothes panic. Need to buy a few more pairs of leggings so I can put a couple of pairs in my hospital bag.

re nesting instinct I really need one of those. Currently got a "can't be arsed" instinct that I really need to overcome

I've got my appointment with the consultant to discuss the birth on 11th June. I really need to avoid c-section as I'm DS2's carer and need to be able to lift him and push his wheelchair. But the polyhydramnios increases my chances of c-section, especially if my waters break first like they usually do. They can induce me at 38/39 weeks but if it doesn't work my chances of c-section go up. And baby is currently breech, grr. I tried to talk to my mum about it but she went on about me being induced for social reasons, that I should have made DH have a vasectomy last year and spouting a load of old wives tales. I struggled to contain my pregnancy rage.

To top it all we've got a letter about DS2's eye operation. The surgeon said it would be the beginning of June so it didn't clash but it's been booked for 27th June when I will be 38+6. Not impressed and not sure whether to risk it or cancel. I don't fancy coping with a 1 month old with feeding issues and a 5 year old having surgery at the same time which will happen if I postpone the surgery.

Ellie - can you call the consultants secretary to see if the op can be brought forward to early June as discussed previously as that later date is definitely risking you not being able to make it. I've got DS2's new school induction meeting on 20 June when I'll be 38 weeks and am telling Bean to stay put!