November 2013-thread 4- nattering our way through the first trimester

[honey86]

pow... here goes another

Lucky13 don't worry - I haven't seen any suggestion that it actually causes miscarriage, it's just the potential long term risk to organs like the brain etc - however, perhaps just ask for the scan to be very quick just to check all's ok and on the lowest possible setting and I'm sure there'll be no damage at all

They can't be that dangerous or they wouldn't do it! I must say the scans are my favourite part of pregnancy, getting to see your little person wriggling around and already developing their own personality is absolutely amazing. Nothing is going to stop me enjoying every single second of mine!

Mumma I agree. I've been already for a scan and I honestly don't need anything else to worry about right now! There are risks in EVERYTHING we do - read up about them if you wish but let's keep some perspective

My early scan was over in about 40 seconds - literally, this is no exaggeration, so maybe this is why. Who knows. AGree with you mumma that they cannot be too dangerous otherwise they would not be done, though they do carry risks.

I am in bed still working away on uni work but have the worst heartburn and cravings - I bought a caesar salad earlier as i have been desperate for it all week but had to give it away as Im not allowed it :( Now all I am thinking about is caesar salad. I will need to have somthing to eat as I feel a bad sickness night coming on if I dont.

Cannot believe that dogs are allowed in some offices! Thats hilarious! Surely if you can take your dog to work you could take your baby....;)

Suprise...I love animals but dont think I could have coped with a puppy and new baby at a similar time. Maybe an older dog may have been easier - I grew up with dogs so they have always been a part of my life, but puppies can be really hard work. On the plus side, think of all the long walks your dog will get along with your new baby :)

Boymeetsworld, my dreams havent been kinky yet but OMG last time they were diiiirrrrttty!! I woke up most mornings absolutely mortified haha!

Williamina, good to see you back, wondered how you were.

Honey thinking of you. Its hard being pregnant without you having to deal with all of this too, so probably a good idea to take a break from OH just now even in the short term until you know what you want to do.

Ok I really need to go, heartburn is awful :( I think its all the fanta zero I have been drinking...oh and rememebr how I was eating smoked salmon constantly? I had to give my last packet away tonight as I couldnt even open the fridge without boaking at it. The thought of it makes me want to be sick. Only a short time ago it was my friend and MS cure :)

Hope you all get a decent sleep tonight. I was up at the crack of dawn as DH left at 4.30am to get an early flight. DD and I were both disturbed and couldnt get back to sleep :( and today I feel a bit rubbish. A decent sleep is def a huge help.

Sorry for huge post - this is why it is better that I use my phone rather than laptop as I have a tendency to get carried away

Surprise- you'll be fine with the pup, ours was brilliant! We took him training up until the week I had DS then it became a job for DH. We put stair gates up from the start and never let him in the nursery so he'd never associate being restricted with a new baby. A lot of people thought I was mad but it worked really well for us and actually helped me prepare for motherhood in a strange way

In terms of scans I'm a firm believer in the whole of parenthood being a massive risk assessment, whether it be scans/delivery methods/immunisations, each to their own. For some (maybe most) the risk associated with scans is outweighed by the need to have your anxiety bought under control. You need to do what is right for you and your family, whether that's something other people agree with or not. Everything from here on in has an element of risk, look at the leaflet they make you read on epidurals for example, or the disclaimers you have to sign for surgery. Welcome to parenthood

Hi all! Hope the sickness isn't too bad.

So sorry to hear the bad news earlier up the thread.

The scans one is tricky, especially with there being lots of different advice out there. I was much more wary last time round but this time, as I'm having the baby in the US, I'm following the US advice and you can have a scan anytime you like. Seriously, they tell me there is no risk and it's super common here.

Now, whether that is actually the case is another question but I'd drive myself insane if I questioned everything I was told by my Dr here. It's quite interesting as because we're part of such an international crowd, you get a real range of views and opinions on what's right or not depending on cultural viewpoints. My Swiss friend thought it was crazy not to have an early scan when I told her I was deliberating as it wasn't standard in the UK - she says they do them early in Switzerland to check how many you're having!

I agree with harverina - in and out in no time, it's not like they hang around in there! I guess like louby86 says, it's all down to choice at the end of the day.

Have a lovely evening all!

Hi all I'm really sorry I didn't mean to come across as telling people not to have scans - I really believe they are a good thing in many situations (whether medical or to reduce anxiety) and I am counting down the days till my first one in a few weeks!

My point really was just to highlight the issue to anyone who, like me, hadn't thought that a scan should be, as louby says, a risk assessment - weighing up the good and possible (altho unlikely) bad points. I had presumed before my sister mentioned anything to me that scans were a no questions need to be asked 100% safe procedure with no possible side effects - but perhaps I should have known without needing to research that nothing in pregnancy is 100% risk free! I was just worrying also for people who were mentioning dopplars after a few things I read.

Anyway I think I might be a bit on the too cautious side (prob being my first one) so really sorry again for causing worry to anyone. None of us need any more worry than we give to ourselves so will keep myself in check from now on!

Morning all,

Woke up for a wee now can't get back to sleep. Grrr,

I too am having back pain and niggling stomach pains / like implantation cramps! I'm guessing its a good sign?

Thank you for the scan info firsttime , I had mine to put my mind at rest and to asure me I was pregnant! I'm counting down the days to 12 weeks for the scan. I just want to know my jelly beans growing ok. Then I can start thinking about maternity leave - wishing the days away already! There has been a boom in pregnancies on the company I work for recently, could be the 50 shades effect?

I'm craving a subway salad!!!

so do i just woke up as ds decided it was playtime but decided to vent this on fb and had a massive anxiety attack. cos for a second i was worried itll make my oh angry (hed question in a jealous way as if i was guilty for using my fb app at that kinda time). to me, thats an emotional scar, and cant believe im actually intimidated by him still when hes not even here

So sorry to see we have lost a few ladies from the group.

I am wide awake and enjoying another round of the heartburn-nausea-heartburn cycle. And if DP keeps snoring I might just smother him. Grrrrr

Feeling marginally stressed as moving house in three weeks and so tired I can't bring myself to do any packing. Our car died last week and DP is moping about because he has a cold. A cold which has prevented him emptying the bin. I can't do it as the smell makes me heave. It's the one thing I asked him to do. I feel grump as I'm the one sorting the whole move even though he gets the greater benefits.

Grump grump grumpy. I have my first midwife appointment next Tuesday. I'm going to change mw in three weeks as well! Plus I have to interview for my own job next week. I feel very stressy!

misstweed( I think it was you) my scan is also the 15th at 9.30. Not long to wait!

Honey, I had those pains before my early scan and everything was ok. Huge huge your way too.

Msfanacker, he's got man flu, the most dangerous thing known to man kind!!! Try and keep calm, easier said than done I know.

Marking place until I can catch up!

Going Bridesmaid dress shopping this weekend so am going to have to spill the beans... Feels weird though as only 6 weeks ish and not telling most people yet!

Ariel - when are you bridesmaid? I'm going to be a bridesmaid the end of August!

Firsttime - don't worry, you didn't come across like you we're telling people not to have them. This is just the start of the should I/shouldn't I process of being a mummy

FWIW I don't trust random website or fb group on medical advice. They are more likely to be filled with scaremongering stories. I have not looked at the risk of ultrasound scans. But I know many other countries have a lot more scans than the UK. (Though a friend in Sweden has to go to London for a private 12 week scan as that's not done there. They don't believe in down's screening). Don't even start me on the immunisation thing.

I agree there are risks with epidurals and other procedures. The NHS is pretty good at giving us the risks. For example I was advise against pathedine by a specialist midwife last time. There was also nothing I could take without risks for my eczema last time too. They both pose much more recognised risks than ultrasounds. I guess if you are giving your bump a daily dose, it is a different story. But I really doubt anyone of us would be. I will read what they gave me, or the current NICE guidelines.

To not scare people on here I did do a search on medical journals and Doppler scans. The first hit I got was a paper from 2001 and it said the risk is higher in 2nd and 3rd trimesters. So it's not automatic that it is worse for smaller foetuses.

That doesn't sound like a good legacy he's left honey, but it sounds like you're getting some perspective which is a good thing. I remember when an ex left & the weeks following were done of the happiest of my life. Just realising how much easier things were without him. Obvs I wasn't pregnant so not quite the same. I hope you can figure out what's best for you and DC.

That sounds crap MsFP give him a kick up the arse.

It's always good to have the info first so don't feel bad about sharing. Though I'm not a big stresser, it's a bit late for me early scan wise but that's ok I'm not worried & we all know to keep a bit of perspective. Interesting to know re home dopplers though.

I hope you're feeling better Fairy.

Oh & big mistake Berry you'll live to regret that one lol.

DP has to go to a bloody meeting in Scotland today, only found out last night. So he's gonna miss the first midwives appt. Bit gutted. Not least of all because he's taken the car!!

Morning all!

Had a rubbish sleep - heartburn and nausea then had a little wriggly visitor in the night too! Then I stupidly put the heating on because we felt cold, fell asleep and woke up later on boiling!!

Sitting outside work in the car and can't face going on. On the plus side my mum had made me a cheese sandwich when I dropped dd off this morning. I devoured it on the way to work and it has really helped

I lost my scan letter!! Convinced dh has moved it...anyway called up and my scan is first thing on 23 April. Can't wait! (Though slightly nervous too!)

Honey sounds like your oh has not been good for you - although easier for other people to say your better off without him, not so easy in your situation to make that decision.

Saundy shame your dh will miss your first appointment but don't worry there really isn't much to it.

Someone mentioned yesterday that they wanted their oh in with them - don't even ask, don't mention it, just walk in with him! It's your decision who you take in with you for support (to any medical appointment) dh came to all my appointments first time and no one batted an eyelid

Ok so is better get into work and face the music. Supposed to start almost an hour ago. Thank goodness for flexi.

Hope you all have a good day

first I don't mean to sound harsh, btw. I'm sure your sister means well. I agree with the home doppler too. And that we shouldn't overuse them. But I think going for those not so frequent scans at the hospitals is definitely fine. (Not sure how long are those 4D scans). I don't want any of us being put off having scans.

And to whoever said their parents didn't have scans. My mum didn't either. I think 30 odd years ago, these scans are either too expensive, didn't exist or wasn't safe. My mum said she didn't have gas and air or other drugs for a VB either. She was given a piece of plastic to chew on! My brother was born with c-section because he was breech, so they did have that!

Oh and she said her recovery from c-section was horrible. And she had a huge scar on her tummy. I'm sure it's nothing like this now.

Cheers harv I know it'll be fine, if she wants to try for the heart beat though will be a bit gutted he missed it. They don't usually like to though so probably not even worth thinking about. I could always say no ta, but totally wouldn't!!

Have had 2 weeks off work, dreading going back so really feeling for those who are struggling through it at the min.

I actually do work in an office where I could bring my baby to work if I needed to, though not every day obvs. Can't imagine I'd get much done though.

Giving birth is not something I'm ready to start thinking about yet one haha!!!!

My friends c section scar from 2 weeks ago is tiny and already healed! Think years ago they cut you lengthways